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What's the word on Jorge Ona? Is he healthy? Still a prospect?

Quote from WindsorUK on October 23, 2019, 3:44 pm

What's the word on Jorge Ona? Is he healthy? Still a prospect?

Ona was looking like he might have turned a corner in AA. He hit .348/.417 in just over 100 AB and then hurt his shoulder. He tried 2 months of rest and rehab, it didn't work so he finally had surgery. He is expected to either be healthy when next year starts or miss very little time. As to his prospect status, that depends on who you talk to. The word is that he may be available in the Rule 5 draft.

Quote from WindsorUK on October 23, 2019, 3:44 pm

What's the word on Jorge Ona? Is he healthy? Still a prospect?

Yeh, still a good prospect and should be ready to play in 2020. He is still just 22 with only 3 years in: FW - LE - AMA (injury shortened). Has not matched the hype at signing but the good start in AMA might reflect some development of the raw talent they saw when signed. Should see him back in AMA, I guess.

It will be interesting to see if the Padres protect him in Rule 5 ... if not, if anyone selects him and keeps him. Would guess if any team does for their 26th man ... it would be a team that scouted him as an amateur and locked in on his long run potential. Not much of a fielder / baserunner and at his stage likely way over matched as a hitter ... so tough for a team to keep for the entire year over potentially more ML useful options in 2020. Unless some team uses the Preller plan from a few years back.

One of the biggest strengths of the Pads' Farm system is its' depth.  And there is "hidden" depth we all tend to overlook:   The Rule 5 guys who aren't technically prospects b/c of their MLB service & playing time:

Perdomo has logged so much time he's an inconsistent but flashes that ability MLB player.  Probably worked as MLB SP too soon & for too long.  2020 a make or break year to see if he can really transition to a reliable RP.  But enough of a career to warrant his high (#11 or 12 I think?) ranking he had in the Cardinals org when Pads got him.

But what if Luis Torrens, Allen Cordoba, and Miguel Diaz were evaluated as "prospects"; which is more accurately what they are?  Where would they rank?

From M. Diaz's debut, his electric stuff was readily evident.  If I had to pick he or Perdomo, I'd pick Diaz.  But of course he was in over his head (like Perdomo) as a Rookie, but partly out of wisdom, more likely due to better depth, he's mostly worked as a RP.  I would not place him in Pads' system top 30 as a RP coming off knee surgery, but he clearly has potential, and could follow or exceed Perdomo's path to cementing a job out of the pen.

Cordoba's lost year following major concussion incurred in car accident really hurt his development, but he showed the hit tool last year that led to Pads picking him in Rule 5.  His best comps are #17 Olivares & #18 E. Ruiz.  Cordoba is only 3 months older than Olviares, who put up a statistically very similar excellent year level higher at AA, with significantly more power.  But Cordoba was vastly better than the 3 full years younger Ruiz in Elsinore.   But Ruiz is a good "comp" as an INF moving more to the OF going forward.  Their speed is identical, but Cordoba's: Hit, Field,& probably Arm tools are all better than Ruiz'.  Despite the age/experience difference, it would be hard to see the rationale for ranking Ruiz above Cordoba simply based on future potential.   When you look at the Pads' system, 21-30 is almost all:  last year's draft picks & Intl FA, and older P's coming off injuries.  I would rank Olivares > Cordoba, but Cordoba > E. Ruiz, and no lower than 20th in Padres system

Luis Campusano had a breakout year in Elsinore, finishing:  1st/3rd/2nd/2nd (by +45 points > 3rd) in the 8 team league in:  BA / OBP / Slug / OPS.  A performance that launched him to #6 in Pads system & top 100 in MLB.   The "other" Luis--Torrens did this in Amarillo:  T-4th / 4th / 3rd / 3rd (by + 45 pts > 4th).   Both guys also by all accounts made significant strides on their defense.  Torrens is almost 2.5 years older than Campusano, but of course 1 of those years in MLB.  Still, if Campusano can sustain & match what Torrens did this year in AA, he would easily be a top 50 MLB prospect.  When comparing Torrens to #10 prospect Owen Miller, who also played all year at AA, and is only 6 months younger, Torrens was superior in every offensive category, except Miller K'ed very slightly less.  Because Miller is not elite or really even "good" defensively/arm wise, I would rank Campusano > Torrens, but Torrens > guys like Miller & Hudson Potts (who both had tough AFL campaigns).  IMO, Torrens would be #10 in Pads system as a prospect

Finally, since mentioned O. Miller, HAVE to make the comparison to Ivan Castillo.  He also played at AA, and is older:  1 year than Torrens, 1.5 years than Miller.  But his stats are mostly favorable to Miller:  more 2B/3B likely due to much better speed allowing his slug/OPS to hold up, an even LOWER K%.  Castillo's signifcant drawback is an extreme lack of patience:  only 20 BB in 452 PA. (Miller:  46 in 553).   Not saying Castillo is > Miller, but even in this strong deep system Ivan Castillo is in at least the 25-30 range as a "true" (no MLB time) prospect.

While we wait for the best prospect lists on the Web to come out at a site called MadFriars.com, you might find the SD and other top 30s at prospectslive.com interesting.

Doesn't everyone just look them up on mlb.com?

Quote from JasonE135 on November 13, 2019, 6:24 pm

Doesn't everyone just look them up on mlb.com?

That's fine but remember its a propaganda site so be careful. Fangraphs, Baseball America, for me 2080, Baseball Prospectus and of course MadFriars are more reliable.

Listening to MLB on XM, and talking how the agreement between MLB and the owners of the Minor League system is over I believe at the end of this up coming season. After this agreement, it is possible that up to 42 teams, many lower level, could cease to exist. Very sad for those smaller cities that have those local affiliates and love their MiL baseball. Not to mention, the up to 1,000 MiLs that could see their careers end before they ever get a chance to really start, or at the least have to find a spot on a Indy League team.

Yup

Padres....Tri City Dust Devils is one of them on the list to go away

Quote from 3fingersplit on November 18, 2019, 9:40 am

Yup

Padres....Tri City Dust Devils is one of them on the list to go away

Thats unfortunate, love that mascot. Its cool looking.