Quote from BoosterSD on November 11, 2022, 1:48 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on November 11, 2022, 1:42 pm

As far as going cheap for the bats, how about Corey Dickerson in LF? He shouldn't cost more than the 1 year, $5 million contract that he got this year. He is a consistent bat that you can expect a .260-.280 avg, .300-.330 obp and a .700-.800 OPS. Not great numbers but he is always around average to a bit better. He is a LHH LF and, most importantly, he will be cheap.

This would allow the Padres to keep Tatis at SS(which I hate) and shift Kim and Crone to the right for our IF against RHP, then Tatis can shift to the OF to replace one of our 3-LHH OF against LHP.

I have always liked Dickerson as a LHH corner bat, his BA, OBP, and SLG were all down last year, and he is 33, so is the bat declining? But OPS+ wise, he was still league average.

Ben Gamel could be another good LHH LFer for us as well. I believe his contract last season was under $2M. He had a leg injury during part of the season, so would have to make sure the legs are good.

And if SD wanted to keep the infield more stable, then either should be a decent platoon option with Azocar or maybe Myers on the cheap.

Quote from fenn68 on November 11, 2022, 2:04 pm

Quote from MrPadre19 on November 11, 2022, 1:07 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on November 11, 2022, 12:06 pm

Quote from MrPadre19 on November 11, 2022, 10:30 am

My ideal off season as of now would be Senga/Nimmo/Myers and head to ST.

 

With the contract that Nimmo will probably get (over $20M per year), and the QO penalties draft wise. I just don't see how a Nimmo signing is realistic.

Although I would be shocked to see it, would not be upset about it though. Would play him in RF, slide Soto back to LF, and leave Grisham in CF. And Nimmo is LHH, one of my priorities.

That's why my comment was following the "I wish I knew how high payroll could go".

I was not counting on signing Martinez and although he was good for us out of the Pen are we about to give him Starter money?

I think I would rather sign Davies to a 3-4 year deal unless we give Martinez middle Reliever money?

 

 

I like when the Padres got Davies … but since he moved on to CUBS somewhat a curious follow. He was good … enough to get over $8MM in his final year of ARB. Hit FA (Boras his agent) and ended up with a less than $2MM deal.

So no idea what Boras will settle on for a contract closer to $2-3MM or closer to $8MM. He and a good 2022 (not great). Doubt he will get a 3-4 year deal … maybe more a 1-2 year deal.

As a #5 SP he does go the the post for a lot of starts (normally just a 5 innings pitcher) … so some good / some bad. Low 4 ERA ish is manageable for a #5.

I would sign him … just not at large or long deal. Especially if the bigger names push their demands up in a tight SP market.

Quote from BoosterSD on November 11, 2022, 2:20 pm

Mind you that the season Davies pitched for SD was 2020, so definitely not your normal year to say the least. But he did pitch to 2.73 ERA that season in SD, and averaged 5.75 innings per start. Every other season he has pitched has been in a hitters ball park. MIL, CHC, and AZ.

So while I dont think he would post another sub 3 ERA, I would not be surprised if he was sub 4 ERA in SD, with our park and defense. And if I was Davies, I would call Boras and say, get me back to SD, as close to $3.5M as you can.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 11, 2022, 2:21 pm

https://www.mlb.com/padres/news/toughest-rule-5-draft-decisions-for-each-team?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

Some interesting 1B bats if AJP and staff see someone that can be the 26th man and provide some pop. Maybe a gamble worth taking ..intrigued by the Rays and KC guys mentioned without knowing much about them..as far as Padres dude Iriarte seems like a guy to leave exposed with a very low chance of getting picked up..and if he is, like 90% sure he gets returned..

Quote from fenn68 on November 11, 2022, 2:42 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on November 11, 2022, 2:20 pm

Mind you that the season Davies pitched for SD was 2020, so definitely not your normal year to say the least. But he did pitch to 2.73 ERA that season in SD, and averaged 5.75 innings per start. Every other season he has pitched has been in a hitters ball park. MIL, CHC, and AZ.

So while I dont think he would post another sub 3 ERA, I would not be surprised if he was sub 4 ERA in SD, with our park and defense. And if I was Davies, I would call Boras and say, get me back to SD, as close to $3.5M as you can.

Agree he should have better stats in SD.

The issue is timing with Boras (always a high opinion of his clients) ... he will not take a "lower offer" early if he believes he can get at least that later (after some of the other options are off the board) and maybe position to get better. The prices on SP ... even middle of the road ... are a lot higher than $3.5MM.

Even if Preller makes an early bid ... he will not wait around for Boras and will move on to alternatives.

Quote from fenn68 on November 11, 2022, 2:53 pm

I am going back and forth under the idea of only ONE major signing topping in the $15MM range vs more adds in the $5-8MM or less range.

Padres have an elite top of the offense and an elite top of the SP and just an elite bullpen. So, is depth to fill the holes (and cover injuries) better than adding just one additional elite option? 162 games is a long run filled with injuries and slumps ... to get to the playoff need to win game across the season. No need to put all your eggs (dollars) in one basket.

If they do add Martinez and still can go an additional $10-15MM ... might just prefer to add 3-4 pieces in that $3-5MM range.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 11, 2022, 4:47 pm

Quote from fenn68 on November 11, 2022, 2:53 pm

I am going back and forth under the idea of only ONE major signing topping in the $15MM range vs more adds in the $5-8MM or less range.

Padres have an elite top of the offense and an elite top of the SP and just an elite bullpen. So, is depth to fill the holes (and cover injuries) better than adding just one additional elite option? 162 games is a long run filled with injuries and slumps ... to get to the playoff need to win game across the season. No need to put all your eggs (dollars) in one basket.

If they do add Martinez and still can go an additional $10-15MM ... might just prefer to add 3-4 pieces in that $3-5MM range.

Remember we can always add an Azocar..Alcantara..Thompson 😢.. and Mazara types fairly easily to provide AAA/MLB depth..also Kohlwey is not a FA loss and I bet he is a ST invite.. solid BA/OBP skill set capable of CF/COF and 1B could be a decent bench piece

I think if we can add a SP like Senga we have to.. otherwise we go into 2024 with Joe and maybe Martinez and no one else..

Quote from JasonE135 on November 11, 2022, 5:57 pm

https://www.mlb.com/news/bold-predictions-for-2022-2023-offseason

Would anyone do this? Merrill and Lesko plus for Bieber? I wouldn't do it even if we missed out on Senga and a lot of other pitchers. He only has 2 years left but he is a true ACE and the Padres do seem to be in "win now" mode.

Quote from fenn68 on November 12, 2022, 4:42 am

Quote from JasonE135 on November 11, 2022, 5:57 pm

https://www.mlb.com/news/bold-predictions-for-2022-2023-offseason

Would anyone do this? Merrill and Lesko plus for Bieber? I wouldn't do it even if we missed out on Senga and a lot of other pitchers. He only has 2 years left but he is a true ACE and the Padres do seem to be in "win now" mode.

Cleveland would not do it … they are AL Central champs lead by Bieber (and his sub-3.00 ERA) … Bieber’s value to Cleveland is greater than what Reynolds adds with Bieber’s loss.

PITT maybe / maybe not … they would want elite prospects but Lesko is far away from the ML and Merrill is still a few years out. If they move Reynolds might angle with another team for top prospects closer to the ML.

SD probably yes … win in current window … try to extend Bieber (he is still only about 27). We are talking Cy Young type pitcher.