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Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 12:21 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 10:10 am
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 10:02 am

Top FA'S this year are SS.

Any chance that a team that misses out looks to SD for a swap of Kim?

Could he bring back a 4/5 type starter, close to the bigs( AA/AAA)?

Eguy holds down SS until FTJ returns?

Just thinking outside the box.....

I definitely think that there would a lot of interest in Kim, especially after performing well in the playoffs, and in the NYM series, Eduardo Perez was drooling all over his abilities at SS. With his low contract, I would expect that we could get 2-3 pieces back for him. And then Tatis could stroll back into SS, like nothing ever happened.

However, I would be concerned with the clubhouse's thoughts on getting rid of Kim after a nice run into the playoffs with him at SS. And then we still need another bat. So unless we got a 1B and a SP out of the deal, which we might, then are we really better off trading Kim and his relatively low salary of $7M? I am sure that Preller will at least go down that rabbit hole with a couple of teams. MIN comes to mind quickly if they lose out on Correa.

Kim did look good in NY but not so much afterwards. 6 for 35, 2 walks, 3 RBI, 4 runs( in comparison,  Grisham was 4 for 36, 2 walks,2 RBI, 3 runs).

If moving his $7 million helps bring in another front line pitcher, certainly be worth the swap.

I dont think you are getting a front line pitcher for him alone. And once again, I think the team chemistry would take a hit as well. Dont think it would be worth the trade.

Additionally, you have to remember that Tatis has never played anywhere near a full season of baseball. Whether it be injuries or stupidity. It was only because we had Kim, we were able to make the run we did this year. Just dont think you can move Kim at this point, he is too valuable to SD, and our pennant/WS run.

Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 12:27 pm
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 12:21 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 10:10 am
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 10:02 am

Top FA'S this year are SS.

Any chance that a team that misses out looks to SD for a swap of Kim?

Could he bring back a 4/5 type starter, close to the bigs( AA/AAA)?

Eguy holds down SS until FTJ returns?

Just thinking outside the box.....

I definitely think that there would a lot of interest in Kim, especially after performing well in the playoffs, and in the NYM series, Eduardo Perez was drooling all over his abilities at SS. With his low contract, I would expect that we could get 2-3 pieces back for him. And then Tatis could stroll back into SS, like nothing ever happened.

However, I would be concerned with the clubhouse's thoughts on getting rid of Kim after a nice run into the playoffs with him at SS. And then we still need another bat. So unless we got a 1B and a SP out of the deal, which we might, then are we really better off trading Kim and his relatively low salary of $7M? I am sure that Preller will at least go down that rabbit hole with a couple of teams. MIN comes to mind quickly if they lose out on Correa.

Kim did look good in NY but not so much afterwards. 6 for 35, 2 walks, 3 RBI, 4 runs( in comparison,  Grisham was 4 for 36, 2 walks,2 RBI, 3 runs).

If moving his $7 million helps bring in another front line pitcher, certainly be worth the swap.

I dont think you are getting a front line pitcher for him alone. And once again, I think the team chemistry would take a hit as well. Dont think it would be worth the trade.

Additionally, you have to remember that Tatis has never played anywhere near a full season of baseball. Whether it be injuries or stupidity. It was only because we had Kim, we were able to make the run we did this year. Just dont think you can move Kim at this point, he is too valuable to SD, and our pennant/WS run.

Certainly have to be part of a bigger deal but you've got to give to get.

 

Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 12:42 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 12:27 pm
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 12:21 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 10:10 am
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 10:02 am

Top FA'S this year are SS.

Any chance that a team that misses out looks to SD for a swap of Kim?

Could he bring back a 4/5 type starter, close to the bigs( AA/AAA)?

Eguy holds down SS until FTJ returns?

Just thinking outside the box.....

I definitely think that there would a lot of interest in Kim, especially after performing well in the playoffs, and in the NYM series, Eduardo Perez was drooling all over his abilities at SS. With his low contract, I would expect that we could get 2-3 pieces back for him. And then Tatis could stroll back into SS, like nothing ever happened.

However, I would be concerned with the clubhouse's thoughts on getting rid of Kim after a nice run into the playoffs with him at SS. And then we still need another bat. So unless we got a 1B and a SP out of the deal, which we might, then are we really better off trading Kim and his relatively low salary of $7M? I am sure that Preller will at least go down that rabbit hole with a couple of teams. MIN comes to mind quickly if they lose out on Correa.

Kim did look good in NY but not so much afterwards. 6 for 35, 2 walks, 3 RBI, 4 runs( in comparison,  Grisham was 4 for 36, 2 walks,2 RBI, 3 runs).

If moving his $7 million helps bring in another front line pitcher, certainly be worth the swap.

I dont think you are getting a front line pitcher for him alone. And once again, I think the team chemistry would take a hit as well. Dont think it would be worth the trade.

Additionally, you have to remember that Tatis has never played anywhere near a full season of baseball. Whether it be injuries or stupidity. It was only because we had Kim, we were able to make the run we did this year. Just dont think you can move Kim at this point, he is too valuable to SD, and our pennant/WS run.

Certainly have to be part of a bigger deal but you've got to give to get.

 

IMO, not worth the risk. Cant trust Tatis yet. And you are not making the playoffs with Rosario at SS.

Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 12:53 pm
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 12:42 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 12:27 pm
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 12:21 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on October 27, 2022, 10:10 am
Quote from WindsorUK on October 27, 2022, 10:02 am

Top FA'S this year are SS.

Any chance that a team that misses out looks to SD for a swap of Kim?

Could he bring back a 4/5 type starter, close to the bigs( AA/AAA)?

Eguy holds down SS until FTJ returns?

Just thinking outside the box.....

I definitely think that there would a lot of interest in Kim, especially after performing well in the playoffs, and in the NYM series, Eduardo Perez was drooling all over his abilities at SS. With his low contract, I would expect that we could get 2-3 pieces back for him. And then Tatis could stroll back into SS, like nothing ever happened.

However, I would be concerned with the clubhouse's thoughts on getting rid of Kim after a nice run into the playoffs with him at SS. And then we still need another bat. So unless we got a 1B and a SP out of the deal, which we might, then are we really better off trading Kim and his relatively low salary of $7M? I am sure that Preller will at least go down that rabbit hole with a couple of teams. MIN comes to mind quickly if they lose out on Correa.

Kim did look good in NY but not so much afterwards. 6 for 35, 2 walks, 3 RBI, 4 runs( in comparison,  Grisham was 4 for 36, 2 walks,2 RBI, 3 runs).

If moving his $7 million helps bring in another front line pitcher, certainly be worth the swap.

I dont think you are getting a front line pitcher for him alone. And once again, I think the team chemistry would take a hit as well. Dont think it would be worth the trade.

Additionally, you have to remember that Tatis has never played anywhere near a full season of baseball. Whether it be injuries or stupidity. It was only because we had Kim, we were able to make the run we did this year. Just dont think you can move Kim at this point, he is too valuable to SD, and our pennant/WS run.

Certainly have to be part of a bigger deal but you've got to give to get.

 

IMO, not worth the risk. Cant trust Tatis yet. And you are not making the playoffs with Rosario at SS.

I don't think that we can trust Tatis at SS anymore. Especially without a solid backup, which we do not have. I know everyone here likes to imagine trade scenarios where they get the players they like, but when you have an excellent piece at a cheap price the last thing you do is trade them.

Kim is going to cost us $7 million next year. Does anyone realize that Kim gave us the third most WAR on the team last year after Manny and Crone? He was worth 4.9 WAR!!! That is HUGE! According to WAR he gave the Padres just under $40 million in value! Most of that value is defensive, but value is value. I don't see us trading an easily gold glove caliber SS to replace him with a man who has graded well below average, if not outright terrible, in Tatis. We struck gold with Kim.

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If Seidler is going to spend a bit (without going for the $20mil plus group) Rizzo and Senga would be my top 2 FA target dream..

How much do we think Brandon Nimmo is going to get in free agency?

He would solve our LF/CF issue….lead off issue and LH bat.

He has a .385 “lifetime” OBP.  and has made “7” errors in 557 games in the OF.

Plus…..if we lose Drury we could really use another Brandon.😉

 

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on October 27, 2022, 3:46 pm

How much do we think Brandon Nimmo is going to get in free agency?

He would solve our LF/CF issue….lead off issue and LH bat.

He has a .385 “lifetime” OBP.  and has made “7” errors in 557 games in the OF.

Plus…..if we lose Drury we could really use another Brandon.😉

 

 

My guess, 6/135. $22.5M per season for 6 years, taking him to age 36. Might have to go 7/$150M to age 37.

Think that Benintendi would be cheaper, and stays healthier than Nimmo as well. Guess that Benintendi gets around $17.5M. Career OBP .351. So close to same OBP and he is younger.

Both have 7 seasons under their belts, and Nimmo has 608 games in that time frame compared to 745 for Benintendi.

I think Nimmo CF definetely gets that.. I dont think Benintendi gets more than 5/65.. his profile (not big Power bat) type/s usually don't get over $13mil per... Nimmo does cause CF are scarce plus Nimmo is a 5 WAR player..Beni is more of a 2-3 WAR guy.. But yeah for the $$ Beni fits better.. however with Tatis and Soto at the corners and Grish at CF..where do you play Beni (to good for DH and there is no way in hell a super star at 24 yrs old in Soto plays DH)..

For similar money probably 4-70 Rizzo makes more sense and hits #4

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 27, 2022, 7:42 pm

I think Nimmo CF definetely gets that.. I dont think Benintendi gets more than 5/65.. his profile (not big Power bat) type/s usually don't get over $13mil per... Nimmo does cause CF are scarce plus Nimmo is a 5 WAR player..Beni is more of a 2-3 WAR guy.. But yeah for the $$ Beni fits better.. however with Tatis and Soto at the corners and Grish at CF..where do you play Beni (to good for DH and there is no way in hell a super star at 24 yrs old in Soto plays DH)..

For similar money probably 4-70 Rizzo makes more sense and hits #4

Well, if SD signs Benintendi that would put Tatis in CF and Benintendi in LF. Grisham becomes trade bait, or bench at that time.

Benintendi, Tatis, Soto, Machado makes a nice start to a nightly line up.

I'd rather see them go after Joc Pederson and pair him up with a lefty killer like Myers than sign Benintendi.

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