Quote from BoosterSD on July 20, 2019, 7:40 pm

I think there are potentially 3 positions that we need to focus on in trade. LHH OF that can drive in runs, and preferably play RF. High OBP CFer, preferably LHH or SH. And maybe a high OBP 2B, once again LHH or SH as well. The 2B only becomes a need if we happen to use Urias to help rid us of Myers contract.

Quote from fenn68 on July 22, 2019, 7:59 am

Trade deadline is just over a week away and getting the feeling that we may not be seeing a lot (if any) major deals in MLB. More of an issue of the buyers' pool maybe not being as motivated (or lacking the trade chips).

At this point the 6 Division leaders are in strong positions to hold their spots plus in the AL the NYY and in the NL league the LAD are pretty secure in holding the home field advantage throughout. They may be interested in improving but will not panic and pay up for a MAJOR piece.

Then there is the run for the Wild Card, in the NL a lot of teams are within striking distance which actually hurts the odd of coming out on top ... then as it stands the one game play in is against WASH (and likely Scherzer in WASH) and if they get past that a 5 game set against the LAD (home field advantage). Teams are going to have to make their call on the "advantage" of going all in for a Wild Card slot (and give up important assets) when the odds of going far is low. Maybe more "hold" approaches than buy ... and given the overall look being a seller may not find a lot of buyers. In the AL, just not a lot of teams in the Wild Card hunt, and a similar issue to the NL with if a teams the one game play in ... they get the NYY in NY.

IF a major name is moved ... good chance it is for less than than the media / selling team would expect.

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Note that Boston is "interested" in Yates or Giles as closer add. Since Boston is into the luxury tax penalty .... likely they will not take on a bad salary with the player to get the deal done. That is an issue since their farm system in barren. One "55" and he is a 1B/3B in low A.

No prospects ... no financial room ... only one other route (they will not take this route): trade off the 25 man roster which is a big gamble. Might offer Jackie Bradley (with a weak bat and limited control remaining) not really appealing enough to out bid others. However, if they put Benintendi in play (probably for more than just Yates) that may get Preller's attention. 3 more years of control and a LHH. Boston would want some immediate fill for him ... likely a corner OF or 1B/DH and future SP never hurts. Not going to happen but can's see Boston succeeding on a major move without that approach.

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Still betting on a Padre "hold" on any Yates move ... maybe at the most a couple of DFA/waiver claim moves for PTNL/Cash Considerations.

Quote from WindsorUK on July 22, 2019, 12:57 pm

Outside of Yates, Stammen, Myers, Reyes, Hedges, Margot, Kinsler and maybe Urias, I'm not trading anyone off the MLB roster.

If any combination of those guys can even bring us a decent, controllable SP, RP, LHH  OF, pull the trigger.

Otherwise, go with the kids! I'm thinking we have enough arms in our system to put together a top notch staff. Paddack, Gore, maybe Morejon, Espinoza can top the rotation. Don't overpay for ANYONE!

Quote from BoosterSD on July 22, 2019, 7:09 pm

TAM is in need of bullpen, a RHH, and possibly a SP. You have to wonder what TAM would be willing to send back to SD for Yates, Reyes, and Luchessi or Lauer. I would think that even for that ML talent going to TAM that Wander Franco is off limits. However, a return package starting with Jesus Sanchez could be a good starting point. It seems that he has mainly played RF, seems to have decent track record of OBP, and according to MLB pipeline is an overall 55.

Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2019, 8:37 am

I keep scanning the reports of contenders needing OF (actually all position players) and it seems that a number of teams that would like such an add ... none seem to have it as a priority and will be willing to offer much. On the hand, pitching both SP/RP seems to be the target of about everyone (but still not sure anyone is willing to pay up for even the good let alone the next lower tier).

Since the objective is to get a good return, other than Yates, not much that works for the Padres and even with Yates there are other short term solutions for the buyers at a lower cost ... all leading me to nothing big for the Padres at the trade deadline.

Since all the Padre rumors circle around adding a longer control, top of the rotation arm .... and for that the trade deadline prices are jacked up ... the idea that Preller waits for the winter to swing the big deal seems to be gaining steam. At least then, some of the "reluctant" sellers may have altered their future strategies making such a pitcher more available at an acceptable price. Someone like Syndergaard (would still have 3 control years) might be an easier get once the Mets reflect on their roster going forward being woefully short of talent depth.

 

Quote from BoosterSD on July 23, 2019, 9:10 am

So I just read on MLBTR and listened for many days on XM how TAM is looking for a RHH for their line up. TAM is inquiring into Castellanos from DET. Would have to think that TAM would have real interest in Reyes who is cheaper and under control for a longer period of time. I realize that he holds value to SD, and is a fan favorite; however, with no DH until 2020, SD should look to move him for a better fielding LHH RF. If SD was to move Yates and Reyes to TAM for Sanchez and 2 or 3 other prospects, then SD could run Myers out to the OF for the balance of the year. Give him ABs in the hopes that he can turn it around enough to the point where he becomes somewhat moveable if at all possible.

Quote from BoosterSD on July 23, 2019, 9:17 am

I know this could be difficult for many reasons, no trade and in the same division. With AZ being in the same position as SD, you wonder if both teams would be willing to do some "rearranging" of players where both teams could benefit. AZ is in the position where they could move R. Ray. Would wonder if the two teams could work out a deal where SD gets Greinke and Peralta (LHH LF) and AZ gets Myers, and others from ML and AAA to balance out the trade. AZ would save about $35-40M in salary by moving Greinke and Peralta. SD gets their "Ace" and a LLH LF and Renfroe can move back to RFF.

Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2019, 9:59 am

Quote from BoosterSD on July 23, 2019, 9:17 am

I know this could be difficult for many reasons, no trade and in the same division. With AZ being in the same position as SD, you wonder if both teams would be willing to do some "rearranging" of players where both teams could benefit. AZ is in the position where they could move R. Ray. Would wonder if the two teams could work out a deal where SD gets Greinke and Peralta (LHH LF) and AZ gets Myers, and others from ML and AAA to balance out the trade. AZ would save about $35-40M in salary by moving Greinke and Peralta. SD gets their "Ace" and a LLH LF and Renfroe can move back to RFF.

Doubt either team would have any issue dealing with the other since neither are now (or in the near term) lining up to be a real threat to LAD ... and Greinke, Ray, Myers will all be gone before they are. Sort of makes the "prospects" under long control the key element ... along with money of course.

Since Ray only has one more year of control (probably for about $9-10MM) for a good (but not great) 3.95 ERA / 1.31 WHIP don's see his value to the 2020 Padres being much more than the current (and cheaper) options.

AZ would not touch the Greinke (2.93 ERA/ 0.95 WHIP) / Peralta (289/352/476) deal for Myers (we know what he is doing) just to save maybe $20MM over the contracts ... even if they were heading for a total rebuild. Padres would have to kick in a lot in terms of prospects (think Gore, Patino types). Flip side, hard to see adding salary in 2020 of about $25MM (Myers offsets stretch out until 2022 and overall would fall short by about $20MM. It also the kind of deal that is a winter move after both teams resolve 2019 performance.

Quote from BoosterSD on July 23, 2019, 10:05 am

I was not inferring that Ray would be of interest to SD. Just know that he is a trade target of many teams at this point. And that IF AZ trades him, they maybe interested in additional young pieces for their rotation.

Yes, I know it would take some big pieces to send Myers to AZ. Although that is one of the places he does hit well. Obviously, I know that SD will not include Gore in a trade. However, Patino and others I would consider.

SD really needs to revamp the OF IMO.