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Quote from David Nevin on July 8, 2019, 1:51 pm

I saw where the Twins inquired about Yates and that the Padres were scouting their AAA team.

Do they have anyone who would interest AJ?

 

For Yates ... not on their AAA club but never know about a deal involving someone ... lets say Stammen. Or they could be scouting a "second or third" piece of deal.

IF the Padres are willing to deal Yates to MINN ... Preller will start with Kirilloff (big time LHH prospect in AA), elite hitter and would be a similar return that he got for Hand. Hard to see MINN making that deal. If the Padres were a bit more flexible, there is another LHH OF, Larnach in A+ (20th pick in the 2018 draft and #94 in the Top 100) and then maybe try to add another prospect from AAA. Should note that both are LHH but corner OF ... not the needed CF or really going to impact 2020.

Other than a "filler name", the only AAA prospect that could have some interest is Nick Gordon (2B/SS, LHH decent glove) is somewhat of a "falling" top prospect. IF the Padres add Gordon as a INF reserve, better chance they would feed comfortable with moving Kinsler and / or Garcia in deals ... assuming Urias is still in favor as the 2B going forward.

Do agree with the comments that Yates is only valuable to a contender and they are not giving up a quality ML piece to get him. IF moved it would have to be for a prospect and Preller is going to go for a singular top tier kid. Pache / Waters seem to fit as CF / Top 100 but not all that confident ATL pays that price. MINN sort of the same with Kirilloff / Larnach if the Padres opt for the LHH corner OF. Both have some other asset to deal and their are other RP going on the market. TB is also looking for a RP but will not pay the price since they really value their prospects. Houston who is going to need SP later this season / next season with their FA is not moving Whitley. Might dangle Tucker (LHH corner OF, MLB #10) since he has been on the door step of the ML for a couple of years and seems to by bypassed by Alvarez as the LHH corner option ... would be wary even at his current ranking, he may be showing faults in his bat and his defense.

I basically doubt Yates gets dealt ... lack of buyers with high quality pieces willing to deal them and reason for Preller to deal him for a bundle of non-Top 100 type prospects.

It looks like the Padres,Diamondbacks and Rockies are all in the same boat.

The next three weeks will determine their strategy the rest of the way.

Buyers......Sellers.....stand pat.

 

Morosi is reporting that the Padres have ... again ... inquired about Snydergaard. Likely another due diligence call by Preller seeing if he can be had under market. Mets ... if they consider dealing him ... are still seeking a blockbuster type return that would help the contend in 2020 ... good luck with that.

 

Mark Bowman on the Atlanta website wrote about what Atlanta may seek at the trade deadline ... SP apparently is the #1 focus. Some worry about them constructing a healthy / non-innings limited / experienced staff to run down the stretch with both WASH and PHIL mounting charges. RP is the secondary objective.

Braves will resist dealing either Pache or Waters ... looking for a high quality / low cost future OF of Acuna - Pache - Waters and would opt to deal high profile SP prospects.

He did leave some wiggle room suggesting that a deal with SF for Bumgarner SP / Smith RP MIGHT have to include one of Pache or Waters ... but that may just mean no deal from Atlanta's perspective.

Padres pitching prospects are not what Atlanta needs to fill that SP desire ... probably not the current 25 man roster arms either (beside the Padres need those arms if contending).

Maybe the Padres can get one only if Atlanta finds a useful SP (for a pitching prospect) and then turns to getting a RP and Yates is their guy. Not optimistic.

The Braves are going to Icarus themselves with that level of cheapness. It's stunning what they did with Albies and Acuna yet still want to reduce costs.

Padres have a very deep farm system even if they exclude the top tier prospects ... quality and volume.

A purely rebuilding team (clear non-contender) may be enticed with getting multiple very very good prospects for a quality ML player who will not do much to make them a contender over the remainder of that player's control period.

Padres may want to cull the farm a bit to clear room for the lower level prospect to rise.

Enter KC and, the previously suggested Whit Merrifield for CF. Not a lot of CF experience but some this year and a plus athlete. More importantly, a plus offensive talent. Add that for his talent he has an obscenely low contract ... $15MMish (total not annual) for the next three years (ages 31-33). He would cost a lot of prospect talent. 4 or 5 for 1 type deal. Scanning the contenders looking for trade deadline help ... almost universally they want pitching (that is where they will spend their prospect assets) or could use Merrifield but don't have nearly the prospect assets to deal compared to SD.

L.Allen, Quantrill, Naylor, and Margot? All were Top 100 prospect at one time ... all under long control ... all league minimum. Not sure another team would out bid that even if some think Merrifield is worth more.

Maybe?

 

Saw the note on MLBTradeRumors that the Padres have inquired about Boyd from Detroit ... not serious negotiations probably at this point just "due diligence" ... the same seems to be the story on Stroman, Syndergaard, Bauer, and I guess even the injured Kluber.

Conversely I hear not rumors of the Padres doing "due diligence" on any offense help.

Now the theme of getting a longer control / top of the rotation arm has been on the table for some time but with the near term emergence of a lot of the Padres arms (Gore / Richards / Lamet added to the others) ... is still pursuing those options the best use of their trade chips and payroll room?

Nice to have these guys but other than Stroman's work in 2019 ... the production from Boyd, Syndergaard, and even Bauer has not be elite top of the rotation making them not that much more productive than what the Padres have going forward. All would cost a big price in prospects for what might just be a marginal gain (if a gain at all in 2020+).

We know Preller loves the "due diligence" calls. Could secondary benefits of the calls be discovery of other players (prospects) from that team that might be in play (and price) or get a reading on Padre trade chips and their value to other teams? Also, by being reported as "interested", does Preller somehow raise that price another team has to pay to get these arms ... depleting those buyer teams' assets and at the same time increasing the value of any Padre pitcher (by limiting the supply post trade). Maybe we should not take all this at face value.

IDK....Boyds numbers are pretty impressive for the AL.

ERA at 3.87

7:1 K to BB ratio!

142 K's in 107 innings with only 20 walks.

Less than a hit an inning with a DH in the lineup every time out.

1.12 WHIP

Move to the NL and he's easily better than anyone we've got not named Chris Paddack....and maybe even including

considering the DH

 

 

Quote from David Nevin on July 12, 2019, 9:40 am

IDK....Boyds numbers are pretty impressive for the AL.

ERA at 3.87

7:1 K to BB ratio!

142 K's in 107 innings with only 20 walks.

Less than a hit an inning with a DH in the lineup every time out.

1.12 WHIP

Move to the NL and he's easily better than anyone we've got not named Chris Paddack....and maybe even including

considering the DH

 

 

Would add that he suffers from a lack luster defense behind him. Does have an issue with HR as a fly ball pitcher.

No issue with him being a very good pitcher (although at 28 this is his breakout season) .... the question is he really a reliable ace / #1 going forward ... he had a 5.00+ ERA in the previous nearly 3 ML seasons. Given the potential demand from more secure contenders (and the fact that Detroit with 3 more control years does not have to trade him) ... what would the Padres have to give to add him? Gut feeling is way too much if he is not that Ace/#1 given the arms in house (and coming).

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On the other hand ... love spinning the options .... trade for Boyd using a plethora of prospect options ... flip Boyd to Atlanta for Pache or Waters? (of course, don't see why Altanta could not swing the deal themselves without SD as the middle man). Actually, could flip Boyd (or one on the current Padre SP) to a contender devoid of prospects to swing the deal themselves and either have the return one focused super blue chip prospect or ... never drop this option ... attach Myers to Boyd.

The makings are there for a chess game of moves.

Boyds' Minor League numbers more represent what he's doing now than what he did in 17-18.

Guys like this break out every year.

Is he for real?

I guess that is the question and the answer to determine his value.

Wish he wasn't "another" Lefty though.

 

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