Quote from BoosterSD on July 5, 2019, 10:16 pm

The NL is going to go through LA to get to the World Series. Yates just got a 5 out save against them. Trade Yates now!! Value is never going to be higher for a 32 year old that was on the scrap heap just 2.5 years ago. Call ATL, and get Waters, and two MiL pitchers.

Quote from WindsorUK on July 5, 2019, 11:17 pm

Great idea Booster!

Much more inclined to move a reliever than a starter like Lauer( Eric is turning into a solid mid rotation guy)

Quote from fenn68 on July 6, 2019, 7:29 am

Going to be hard for the front office to make the "buyer" vs. "seller" call right now ... maybe a bit of both and maybe nothing. On one hand the Padres are only 3 games out of the wild card spot ... by itself not a major problem BUT every team in the NL (except maybe Miami / NYM / SF) are probably thinking they have chance. Collectively that should make the odds for any one wild card contender pretty low.

Organizations want to win when they have a chance (even if it is the wild card) and certainly want to keep their fans on their side by at least trying when they have a chance. Offsetting that, with the odds low, how much does a team want to go all in just for the chance to get into a one game play in?

Looking as though this could be a stalemate until the end of the month when, maybe, a clearer picture emerges. IF the full slate of buyers don't emerge until the end of the month, the sellers will tend to over ask until all the buyers are in play (they can come down later).

Could make the argument that "sellers" of veterans are in the best position this year and could get "better" returns and "buyers" are disadvantaged given the competition of the better options but that might just move them to hold with the players they have not wanting to give up their top prospects in a era where prospects are very valuable economically.

Interesting month.

 

Quote from fenn68 on July 6, 2019, 7:48 am

Don't move Lauer ... could argue he is the best pitcher on the staff ... young (just turned 24) ... and under control (5 more years) ... minimum salary. A rarity these days, a pitcher who knows how to pitch.

He had 2 ugly starts in Colorado (5.2 innings / 13 ER) but other than that 15 starts, 85.2 innings, only 28 ER ... that is an ERA of UNDER 3.00 which would make him about 10th in the ML (similar to Verlander / Hamels).

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Not all that concerned about adding a SP (looking beyond right now and 2020) with the young controllable arms here and coming soon. If 2020 sets up Richards (one season), Lamet, Lauer, Lucchesi, Paddack with Allen and Quantrill sitting in the wings if needed and Strahm in the pen ... OK with that (certainly would not "overpay" for a veteran arm. Then Gore (followed by Patino and Morejon) are setting up for late 2020-21. No SP needed.

CF would be a good target BUT find a good one who is on the market ... looked ... not there. If one was, given the lack of ML CF quality, he would be way over priced. Padres may need to work through Margot, Jankowski, and Myers just from the lack of better options. (makes the argument for trading for a high profile prospect that may arrive in 2020-21).

RP ... sure but every contender is thinking the same ... all will be way overpriced and being RP very unreliable going forward (makes the argument for dealing Yates).

Not sure any significant deal is in the cards for the Padres.

Quote from fenn68 on July 6, 2019, 8:09 am

IF the Padres feel they are out .... could see them market Kinsler (give Urias his shot) and Stammen (FA after the season) ... maybe for one of those A ball / rookie level kids that Preller seems to find and turn out to be good.

Not sure any of the other "fringe" types have any more value than Wisler ... Cash Considerations. Might still clean some out to make room for the next round of prospects.

I would move on from Hedges and go with Mejia / Allen but doubt the Padres will (at least not until the winter) partly because no team will give much for a .180 hitting C no matter how good the defense plus he carries a $2MM contract unless that team loses it C options due to injury.

And then there is Yates. Guessing no since I would expect that Preller will have a very high price and a target return of near term potential major improvement ... not a lot of buyers who can deliver that. Can a deal be crafted with Atlanta with either Pache or Waters ... possible. Padres might opt for just some pure talent and go for a LHH corner OF like Kirilloff (MINN, elite hitter in AA). Still, long shot buyers will give up the desired talent level to justify moving a low cost, 1.5 years of Yates.

Quote from MrPadre19 on July 6, 2019, 9:09 am

Caleb Smith from the Marlins?

27 and misses ALOT of bats.

 

Quote from BoosterSD on July 6, 2019, 9:23 am

Quote from fenn68 on July 6, 2019, 8:09 am

And then there is Yates. Guessing no since I would expect that Preller will have a very high price and a target return of near term potential major improvement ... not a lot of buyers who can deliver that. Can a deal be crafted with Atlanta with either Pache or Waters ... possible. Padres might opt for just some pure talent and go for a LHH corner OF like Kirilloff (MINN, elite hitter in AA). Still, long shot buyers will give up the desired talent level to justify moving a low cost, 1.5 years of Yates.

Thats why I think ATL/SD are good trade partners. ATL is pot committed, with the signing of Kuechel, they have to keep going. SD, while we would love to see even the WC game, is just beginning to open the window.

I agree that we have many young SP on the way, and have said also that CF is now our biggest whole with Margot not panning out yet. Send Yates to ATL, and get Waters (switch hitter) and two MiL pitchers that can turn out to be very good out of the pen.

Then, move Margot to PHI for a AA/AAA young bull pen arm.

Then the last piece is to figure out how to get rid of Myers......

Quote from BoosterSD on July 6, 2019, 9:25 am

Quote from David Nevin on July 6, 2019, 9:09 am

Caleb Smith from the Marlins?

27 and misses ALOT of bats.

 

I think we are over loaded with LHSP. I know Smith is good this year, but too many Lefties already. Which is why I wasnt all that interested in Kuechel after thinking about it. Besides, CF and LHH OF with some pop should be the biggest focus of the front office.

Quote from fenn68 on July 6, 2019, 9:33 am

Quote from David Nevin on July 6, 2019, 9:09 am

Caleb Smith from the Marlins?

27 and misses ALOT of bats.

 

Expect the cost would more than his value to the Padres .... he is sort of on the same level as Lucchesi, Lauer, and Paddack ... and older.

Considering he has 4 more years of control and is at league minimum a lot of other teams that are really in the hunt and really need SP would likely pay a steeper price. I would save may trade chips for either a more pressing need (CF), use if (when) a current starter at some undetermined position gets a major injury, or just develop the top prospect into a key role.

Miami has no need to trade him now .... or even next winter .... so they will just sit and wait for the offer that can't be refused.