Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2021, 8:40 am

I think we are well past point where the team can (if they wanted to) con Tatis and his agent into a team favorable contract.

The national dialogue surrounding Tatis is also generating national media suggesting that Tatis’ FA years should be valued as much as “$38MM” and he would be foolish to sign giving up FA years beyond age 28-29. Heard one suggesting a “lifetime” contract at $500MM. Pretty sure Tatis and his agent are listening to that “noise” making a deal more difficult at any terms.

Not my money (or the media types) ... So easy to suggest the Padres spend but at some level (and risk evaluation) have to remember the objective is to win every year and putting a major chunk of your money in one player may not help that objective being achieved.

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2021, 9:50 am

Honestly, at this point, with the CBA set to expire, IF I was SD I would not extend Tatis until after the new CBA. We have no idea what types of money, rules items will be negotiated in the new CBA.

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2021, 10:00 am

Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2021, 8:16 am

Acee is reporting that Yates is in the process of choosing among five offers ... however, the Padres are NOT one of those finalists. Other teams have apparently made more substantial offers than the Padres have.

I have 3 thoughts.

1. Does SD know something about his rehab that others dont? Probably not, IMO.
2. Is SD out of money, or do they think that they need another SP more so another RP. Probably, Lamet??
3. Preller has set his $$ for Yates, and others are willing to exceed that. Most likely.

Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2021, 1:08 pm

#3 for sure .... that seems to be the way Preller operates ... set a ceiling and if another team tops it ... moves on.

Since the one report has Yates likely to have a $5MM base plus incentives in the mix... that is a pretty good chunk that may take away from going more high end on a SP and getting at least mid-rotation quality. Even if Lamet was not a question mark (and he will be into ST) ... think Preller was zeroing in on another quality mid rotation SP anyway for a full 5 man rotation (note the interest in Sugano now shifting to Tanaka).

Tanaka's name as been tossed around as someone Preller has made inquiries about. He should be in the $13MM range ... question as to how many years ... not likely a one year deal.

Quote from fenn68 on January 16, 2021, 4:03 pm

Pitching ... pitching ... pitching .... all costly.

Martin Perez signs with Boston ... 1 year / $4.5MM plus $500K buyout of 2022 ... so effectively a $5MM deal. ( one report had the Padres “interested”).

Perez over the past two season had an ERA near 5.00 as a starter. For that he is getting $5MM!!!!!!!!!!!

Like Lucchesi or not ... over the same period Lucchesi had an ERA around 4.30 ...I guess making him worth > $6mm and considering he is at league minimum ... a decent trade chip.

Alternately, I would gamble that Gore - Morejon - Weathers - Baez each could deliver the same ERA at league minimum.

Maybe that is reason to just avoid the “fringe” SP signings and focus on a more accomplished alternative (Sugano / Tanaka).

Quote from Randy Manese on January 16, 2021, 9:23 pm

Yates will be 34 when the season starts so don't blame him for trying to get the most money over the most years he can.  Sorry to see him go because he was one of the bright spots in the past few years but I can see where the Padres may want to invest elsewhere.  If we can't get Tanaka, money may then swing to Rosenthal.  Probably know in the next 2 weeks.

Quote from Randy Manese on January 17, 2021, 9:59 am

Of all the pre-arb signings still trying to wrap my brain around why the Padres gave Altavilla $850,000 when he was just at the league minimum ($573,000) last year.  I don't recall him being anything special over the entire time he was with San Diego although he did get a key strikeout here and there.  I'm probably among the group that thought he might be DFA'd or traded/released in ST.  With no options remaining, it appears that salary guarantees him a spot in the bullpen and at that salary, harder to trade or release without greater fiscal penalty.  Without resigning either Rosenthal or Yates from the right side it probably is Pagan, Johnson, Adams, Stammen and Altavilla, while we have Pomeranz, Strahm and either Hill or Castillo from the left.  That leaves Guerra and Williams, the other two righties without options and a slew of other RH candidates down in El Paso/San Antonio to be brought up in case any of these projected bullpen guys gets hurt, is ineffective or is just plain worn out from overuse.  I'm thinking that what we see to begin the season in the pen, except at the very top, is going to look a lot different as the season goes on.

 

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on January 17, 2021, 10:12 am

If the cost was the same who would you rather have if we could only have one?’

Profar-Bench depth

Rosenthal-Closer

Tanaka-Rotation depth

 

For me it would be Rosenthal.

Putting him in as Closer pushes everyone else down a notch and makes each inning better in close games.

Pomeranz and Pagan become LH/RH setup guys or Closer in case of over use/injury instead of depended on the close games.

I also think we could find another “low cost” OF and a veteran 1 year Starter closer to the start of the season much easier than we could fund a quality Closer.

Lastly.....Rosenthal absolutely loved his short time in SD,I’d love to have him around for a few more years in the community/clubhouse.

Who would you choose and why?

 

 

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on January 17, 2021, 10:13 am

I might feel a little differently if the rumors were we were interested in James Paxton.

Maybe we are?

Or maybe his asking price is just too high?