Quote from Brian Connelly on August 29, 2019, 9:56 am

Quote from 84padres on August 28, 2019, 10:13 pm

Gore strikes out 5 of 6 batters he faced in his last start of the year. He finished with 135 Ks and 28 BB in 101 innings. Only question now is he going to be the lastest pitching prospect to start the year in the rotation or get a couple of starts in minors 1st. I kind of hope he starts in minors but it could be a big boost for the team if he makes the team right out of spring training. My wife and I will be in Peoria March 15th through the 21st and I hope to see him start a game.

I really applaud the Pads for not holding Tatis back to start this year.  It's clear the whole dynamic in MLB has changed the last 2 years; you now want to extend your young POSITION players as early as possible for as long as possible, so starting Tatis' service time clock ended up being a no-brainer, because: 1) He plays every day, 2) He was by far the best option at the position - especially at the time, and 3) they're obviously going to do a long term extension sooner than later (I DON'T think they should do it this offseason).

A potential Ace SP is a COMPLETELY different proposition:  1)  He will be limited to somewhere around 150 IP next year.  2) Even if he were the O.D. starter (not going to happen) Padres could gain an entire extra year of control by having him "miss" a total of only 3 starts.  It does NOT make sense to extend P's early in their careers because there is so much greater risk of injury; balance of risk is too much on the team.  So team is only "gaining" those 3 starts in exchange for millions of $ spent earlier than they would have been AND 1 less year total control over a SP who can't pitch a full every 5th day MLB season anyway.

Gore has made 5 starts at AA including the last < 2 IP ridiculous "return" from being shut down.  Patino has made 2.  For comparison, Paddack had made 7  utterly dominant starts @ AA & had much less competition entering 2019 than there will be  (Lamet, Richards, Quantrill) in 2020.  These guys need to start the season in AA.  Even if Gore looks like an obvious frontline MLB SP, the smart play isn't starting him on Opening Day 3/28 or whatever... it's having him start LAST in AA around 4/10;  make whatever # of tuneup starts in AA deemed neccy, then get called up early with an extra year of control over hopefully an Ace SP.

Doesn't just make sense for long run; actually makes more sense for 2020 to have Gore available as late into season as possible despite his innings limit.

Quote from JasonE135 on September 1, 2019, 11:35 pm

Everyone will be healthy at the start of the season next year. There will be too many qualified people for too few rotation spots. Lucchesi, Lauer, Lamet, Richards, Paddack, Quantrill have all earned starting spots from their performance this year (past years for Richards). Gore will have to wait for an injury or for somebody to stumble.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on September 2, 2019, 6:41 am

Quote from JasonE135 on September 1, 2019, 11:35 pm

Everyone will be healthy at the start of the season next year. There will be too many qualified people for too few rotation spots. Lucchesi, Lauer, Lamet, Richards, Paddack, Quantrill have all earned starting spots from their performance this year (past years for Richards). Gore will have to wait for an injury or for somebody to stumble.

And word in SD is AJP could add up to 2 SP this off-season so I can see a 2 for 1 (of our current SPs ) being dealt for an upgrade or 2..

Quote from BoosterSD on September 2, 2019, 9:23 am

Quote from JasonE135 on September 1, 2019, 11:35 pm

Everyone will be healthy at the start of the season next year. There will be too many qualified people for too few rotation spots. Lucchesi, Lauer, Lamet, Richards, Paddack, Quantrill have all earned starting spots from their performance this year (past years for Richards). Gore will have to wait for an injury or for somebody to stumble.

Lucchesi and Lauer, if they are on the team next year, will be battling for possibly the 5th rotation spot and the long RP role. There is no way, unless injuries happen, that both will be in the rotation next year. Gore will be added as soon as AJP thinks he is ready, they will make a spot for Gore. I do think that the rotation will start out with FO SP, Richards, Paddock, Lamet, and then L or L.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on September 2, 2019, 9:26 am

Quote from BoosterSD on September 2, 2019, 9:23 am

Quote from JasonE135 on September 1, 2019, 11:35 pm

Everyone will be healthy at the start of the season next year. There will be too many qualified people for too few rotation spots. Lucchesi, Lauer, Lamet, Richards, Paddack, Quantrill have all earned starting spots from their performance this year (past years for Richards). Gore will have to wait for an injury or for somebody to stumble.

Lucchesi and Lauer, if they are on the team next year, will be battling for possibly the 5th rotation spot and the long RP role. There is no way, unless injuries happen, that both will be in the rotation next year. Gore will be added as soon as AJP thinks he is ready, they will make a spot for Gore. I do think that the rotation will start out with FO SP, Richards, Paddock, Lamet, and then L or L.

How soon we forget Quantrill who has been our best SP.. 😆

Quote from BoosterSD on September 2, 2019, 9:29 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on September 2, 2019, 9:26 am

Quote from BoosterSD on September 2, 2019, 9:23 am

Quote from JasonE135 on September 1, 2019, 11:35 pm

Everyone will be healthy at the start of the season next year. There will be too many qualified people for too few rotation spots. Lucchesi, Lauer, Lamet, Richards, Paddack, Quantrill have all earned starting spots from their performance this year (past years for Richards). Gore will have to wait for an injury or for somebody to stumble.

Lucchesi and Lauer, if they are on the team next year, will be battling for possibly the 5th rotation spot and the long RP role. There is no way, unless injuries happen, that both will be in the rotation next year. Gore will be added as soon as AJP thinks he is ready, they will make a spot for Gore. I do think that the rotation will start out with FO SP, Richards, Paddock, Lamet, and then L or L.

How soon we forget Quantrill who has been our best SP.. 😆

Actually did not mean to omit Quantrill. It could be that Quantrill beats out Lamet, and Lamet goes to the bull pen.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on September 2, 2019, 9:34 am

Our SP of Lamet + Lauer + Joey + Q and Paddack are all on the + side in WAR ..for 2019

In 2018 only Joey was + in WAR all others were in - negative WAR territory.. Pretty nice turn around .. We add a 3-4 WAR type TOR in the off-season to the mix and Gore comes up at some point and we can take our SP to a whole new level in 2020

Quote from MrPadre19 on September 2, 2019, 10:26 am

Lamest has too much potential to not be in OD rotation

The way I see it:

Paddack-Lamet-Richards-Quantrill-Lauer/Luchessi

Hopefully AA has Gore-Patino-Baez-Morejon-Avila/Bolanos

I don’t want to see any of these guys in El Paso.

How good would that AA pitching staff be?

Quote from MrPadre19 on September 2, 2019, 10:27 am

Of course......we could include a guy like Luchessi or Lauer or any other arm/s in a trade or two this off season too.