Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 2:28 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 1:22 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 12:24 pm

Maybe we can get Hosmer from BOS for 1B!?!?! Hahaha wink wink!

In all seriousness, Muncy has $13M club option versus a $1.5M buyout. IF Muncy became a FA, do you think that SD should have interest? He is having a down year for him BA wise, but his HRs and RBIs are OK. Not at $13M, but a LH bat for $8M±?

Or is Mancini the better option?

I could see Preller being interested in Muncy at the right price. However, doubt LAD will let him go and exercise the club option.

This winter LAD are going to be interesting ... they have a ton of money coming off the books with FA, club options that will be declined, and maybe even one big non-tender. Keeping Muncy at $13MM might be a strategic necessity. Watch out for them pursuing Judge.

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Mancini would be a good option ... no idea on his price tag ... should be lower AAV/total contract than Bell but never know depending how the other teams that are interested. Guessing he will not be low cost.

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Not great ... but a re-sign of Drury (should be low cost) coupled with the return of Beaty (who has some good past stats) create a RHH/LHH due that should be productive while not occupying much payroll space. IF they believe in the upside of Campusano and Rosario's bats (both at minimum) plus Grisham is still around ... might be OK at DH/1B,

Keep in mind if that is not working ... there is always a mid-season trade for a rental upgrade.

The Padres have 4 starting quality infielders under contract for 2023 to fill 4 positions. We have 3 starting pitchers under contract for 2023 to fill 5 positions. Darvish and Snell are not young. If either one has a bad year our season is over before it begins.

We ALL remember 2020. Do we want to repeat that season with even less pitching available this time? No. Every available penny needs to be spent on starting pitching. Clevinger should be first, second and third priority.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 3:21 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 2:28 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 1:22 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 12:24 pm

Maybe we can get Hosmer from BOS for 1B!?!?! Hahaha wink wink!

In all seriousness, Muncy has $13M club option versus a $1.5M buyout. IF Muncy became a FA, do you think that SD should have interest? He is having a down year for him BA wise, but his HRs and RBIs are OK. Not at $13M, but a LH bat for $8M±?

Or is Mancini the better option?

I could see Preller being interested in Muncy at the right price. However, doubt LAD will let him go and exercise the club option.

This winter LAD are going to be interesting ... they have a ton of money coming off the books with FA, club options that will be declined, and maybe even one big non-tender. Keeping Muncy at $13MM might be a strategic necessity. Watch out for them pursuing Judge.

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Mancini would be a good option ... no idea on his price tag ... should be lower AAV/total contract than Bell but never know depending how the other teams that are interested. Guessing he will not be low cost.

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Not great ... but a re-sign of Drury (should be low cost) coupled with the return of Beaty (who has some good past stats) create a RHH/LHH due that should be productive while not occupying much payroll space. IF they believe in the upside of Campusano and Rosario's bats (both at minimum) plus Grisham is still around ... might be OK at DH/1B,

Keep in mind if that is not working ... there is always a mid-season trade for a rental upgrade.

The Padres have 4 starting quality infielders under contract for 2023 to fill 4 positions. We have 3 starting pitchers under contract for 2023 to fill 5 positions. Darvish and Snell are not young. If either one has a bad year our season is over before it begins.

We ALL remember 2020. Do we want to repeat that season with even less pitching available this time? No. Every available penny needs to be spent on starting pitching. Clevinger should be first, second and third priority.

Word is club would like to resign Clev..and I think Martinez stays.. making #5/6 SP a mix of Martinez/Wethers/Khner/Groome... we should get similar production with any of that group to what Manaea is doing if not >

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 3:45 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 3:21 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 2:28 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 1:22 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 12:24 pm

Maybe we can get Hosmer from BOS for 1B!?!?! Hahaha wink wink!

In all seriousness, Muncy has $13M club option versus a $1.5M buyout. IF Muncy became a FA, do you think that SD should have interest? He is having a down year for him BA wise, but his HRs and RBIs are OK. Not at $13M, but a LH bat for $8M±?

Or is Mancini the better option?

I could see Preller being interested in Muncy at the right price. However, doubt LAD will let him go and exercise the club option.

This winter LAD are going to be interesting ... they have a ton of money coming off the books with FA, club options that will be declined, and maybe even one big non-tender. Keeping Muncy at $13MM might be a strategic necessity. Watch out for them pursuing Judge.

---

Mancini would be a good option ... no idea on his price tag ... should be lower AAV/total contract than Bell but never know depending how the other teams that are interested. Guessing he will not be low cost.

---

Not great ... but a re-sign of Drury (should be low cost) coupled with the return of Beaty (who has some good past stats) create a RHH/LHH due that should be productive while not occupying much payroll space. IF they believe in the upside of Campusano and Rosario's bats (both at minimum) plus Grisham is still around ... might be OK at DH/1B,

Keep in mind if that is not working ... there is always a mid-season trade for a rental upgrade.

The Padres have 4 starting quality infielders under contract for 2023 to fill 4 positions. We have 3 starting pitchers under contract for 2023 to fill 5 positions. Darvish and Snell are not young. If either one has a bad year our season is over before it begins.

We ALL remember 2020. Do we want to repeat that season with even less pitching available this time? No. Every available penny needs to be spent on starting pitching. Clevinger should be first, second and third priority.

Word is club would like to resign Clev..and I think Martinez stays.. making #5/6 SP a mix of Martinez/Wethers/Khner/Groome... we should get similar production with any of that group to what Manaea is doing if not >

And Morejon who will be stretched out and may be the first in.

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 3:53 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 3:21 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 2:28 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 1:22 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 12:24 pm

Maybe we can get Hosmer from BOS for 1B!?!?! Hahaha wink wink!

In all seriousness, Muncy has $13M club option versus a $1.5M buyout. IF Muncy became a FA, do you think that SD should have interest? He is having a down year for him BA wise, but his HRs and RBIs are OK. Not at $13M, but a LH bat for $8M±?

Or is Mancini the better option?

I could see Preller being interested in Muncy at the right price. However, doubt LAD will let him go and exercise the club option.

This winter LAD are going to be interesting ... they have a ton of money coming off the books with FA, club options that will be declined, and maybe even one big non-tender. Keeping Muncy at $13MM might be a strategic necessity. Watch out for them pursuing Judge.

---

Mancini would be a good option ... no idea on his price tag ... should be lower AAV/total contract than Bell but never know depending how the other teams that are interested. Guessing he will not be low cost.

---

Not great ... but a re-sign of Drury (should be low cost) coupled with the return of Beaty (who has some good past stats) create a RHH/LHH due that should be productive while not occupying much payroll space. IF they believe in the upside of Campusano and Rosario's bats (both at minimum) plus Grisham is still around ... might be OK at DH/1B,

Keep in mind if that is not working ... there is always a mid-season trade for a rental upgrade.

The Padres have 4 starting quality infielders under contract for 2023 to fill 4 positions. We have 3 starting pitchers under contract for 2023 to fill 5 positions. Darvish and Snell are not young. If either one has a bad year our season is over before it begins.

We ALL remember 2020. Do we want to repeat that season with even less pitching available this time? No. Every available penny needs to be spent on starting pitching. Clevinger should be first, second and third priority.

Word is club would like to resign Clev..and I think Martinez stays.. making #5/6 SP a mix of Martinez/Wethers/Khner/Groome... we should get similar production with any of that group to what Manaea is doing if not >

I would kill to get Clevinger and Martinez both back next year! That alone would keep us a contender. Unfortunately we will have to outbid other suitors for both.

In fact I think we need to sign at least 4 solid starters this offseason. We had 7 starters this year and we have used them all, in addition to Knehr. We will need 7 next year. At this point Weathers, Lawson and Groome are nothing but emergency starters. Knehr may be #7 at best but they cannot be counted on by a hopeful playoff team.

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 3:59 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 3:45 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 3:21 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 2:28 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 1:22 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 12:24 pm

Maybe we can get Hosmer from BOS for 1B!?!?! Hahaha wink wink!

In all seriousness, Muncy has $13M club option versus a $1.5M buyout. IF Muncy became a FA, do you think that SD should have interest? He is having a down year for him BA wise, but his HRs and RBIs are OK. Not at $13M, but a LH bat for $8M±?

Or is Mancini the better option?

I could see Preller being interested in Muncy at the right price. However, doubt LAD will let him go and exercise the club option.

This winter LAD are going to be interesting ... they have a ton of money coming off the books with FA, club options that will be declined, and maybe even one big non-tender. Keeping Muncy at $13MM might be a strategic necessity. Watch out for them pursuing Judge.

---

Mancini would be a good option ... no idea on his price tag ... should be lower AAV/total contract than Bell but never know depending how the other teams that are interested. Guessing he will not be low cost.

---

Not great ... but a re-sign of Drury (should be low cost) coupled with the return of Beaty (who has some good past stats) create a RHH/LHH due that should be productive while not occupying much payroll space. IF they believe in the upside of Campusano and Rosario's bats (both at minimum) plus Grisham is still around ... might be OK at DH/1B,

Keep in mind if that is not working ... there is always a mid-season trade for a rental upgrade.

The Padres have 4 starting quality infielders under contract for 2023 to fill 4 positions. We have 3 starting pitchers under contract for 2023 to fill 5 positions. Darvish and Snell are not young. If either one has a bad year our season is over before it begins.

We ALL remember 2020. Do we want to repeat that season with even less pitching available this time? No. Every available penny needs to be spent on starting pitching. Clevinger should be first, second and third priority.

Word is club would like to resign Clev..and I think Martinez stays.. making #5/6 SP a mix of Martinez/Wethers/Khner/Groome... we should get similar production with any of that group to what Manaea is doing if not >

And Morejon who will be stretched out and may be the first in.

I wish!, but we have to be realistic. Morejon has pitched a total of 46.1 innings in the last 4 years and has a serious injury history. It would take 2-3 years of health just to get him stretched out to a starters workload. He will probably be limited to 50-80 innings next year.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 4:53 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 3:45 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 3:21 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 2:28 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 1:22 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 12:24 pm

Maybe we can get Hosmer from BOS for 1B!?!?! Hahaha wink wink!

In all seriousness, Muncy has $13M club option versus a $1.5M buyout. IF Muncy became a FA, do you think that SD should have interest? He is having a down year for him BA wise, but his HRs and RBIs are OK. Not at $13M, but a LH bat for $8M±?

Or is Mancini the better option?

I could see Preller being interested in Muncy at the right price. However, doubt LAD will let him go and exercise the club option.

This winter LAD are going to be interesting ... they have a ton of money coming off the books with FA, club options that will be declined, and maybe even one big non-tender. Keeping Muncy at $13MM might be a strategic necessity. Watch out for them pursuing Judge.

---

Mancini would be a good option ... no idea on his price tag ... should be lower AAV/total contract than Bell but never know depending how the other teams that are interested. Guessing he will not be low cost.

---

Not great ... but a re-sign of Drury (should be low cost) coupled with the return of Beaty (who has some good past stats) create a RHH/LHH due that should be productive while not occupying much payroll space. IF they believe in the upside of Campusano and Rosario's bats (both at minimum) plus Grisham is still around ... might be OK at DH/1B,

Keep in mind if that is not working ... there is always a mid-season trade for a rental upgrade.

The Padres have 4 starting quality infielders under contract for 2023 to fill 4 positions. We have 3 starting pitchers under contract for 2023 to fill 5 positions. Darvish and Snell are not young. If either one has a bad year our season is over before it begins.

We ALL remember 2020. Do we want to repeat that season with even less pitching available this time? No. Every available penny needs to be spent on starting pitching. Clevinger should be first, second and third priority.

Word is club would like to resign Clev..and I think Martinez stays.. making #5/6 SP a mix of Martinez/Wethers/Khner/Groome... we should get similar production with any of that group to what Manaea is doing if not >

And Morejon who will be stretched out and may be the first in.

I am envisioning Morejon on a Nick Martinez role next season with less SP opportunities (less innings) as he stretches out to 60-90 ip in 2023.. then up to 120 in 2024 and beyond that no limit.... just from his professional history can't see any other path to SP than this if SP is indeed the calling card and not "high leverage" multi inning type BP arm... My take here is based more on actual innings pitched as a Pro than anything else

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 4:57 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 3:53 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 3:21 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on August 11, 2022, 2:28 pm

Quote from fenn68 on August 11, 2022, 1:22 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on August 11, 2022, 12:24 pm

Maybe we can get Hosmer from BOS for 1B!?!?! Hahaha wink wink!

In all seriousness, Muncy has $13M club option versus a $1.5M buyout. IF Muncy became a FA, do you think that SD should have interest? He is having a down year for him BA wise, but his HRs and RBIs are OK. Not at $13M, but a LH bat for $8M±?

Or is Mancini the better option?

I could see Preller being interested in Muncy at the right price. However, doubt LAD will let him go and exercise the club option.

This winter LAD are going to be interesting ... they have a ton of money coming off the books with FA, club options that will be declined, and maybe even one big non-tender. Keeping Muncy at $13MM might be a strategic necessity. Watch out for them pursuing Judge.

---

Mancini would be a good option ... no idea on his price tag ... should be lower AAV/total contract than Bell but never know depending how the other teams that are interested. Guessing he will not be low cost.

---

Not great ... but a re-sign of Drury (should be low cost) coupled with the return of Beaty (who has some good past stats) create a RHH/LHH due that should be productive while not occupying much payroll space. IF they believe in the upside of Campusano and Rosario's bats (both at minimum) plus Grisham is still around ... might be OK at DH/1B,

Keep in mind if that is not working ... there is always a mid-season trade for a rental upgrade.

The Padres have 4 starting quality infielders under contract for 2023 to fill 4 positions. We have 3 starting pitchers under contract for 2023 to fill 5 positions. Darvish and Snell are not young. If either one has a bad year our season is over before it begins.

We ALL remember 2020. Do we want to repeat that season with even less pitching available this time? No. Every available penny needs to be spent on starting pitching. Clevinger should be first, second and third priority.

Word is club would like to resign Clev..and I think Martinez stays.. making #5/6 SP a mix of Martinez/Wethers/Khner/Groome... we should get similar production with any of that group to what Manaea is doing if not >

I would kill to get Clevinger and Martinez both back next year! That alone would keep us a contender. Unfortunately we will have to outbid other suitors for both.

In fact I think we need to sign at least 4 solid starters this offseason. We had 7 starters this year and we have used them all, in addition to Knehr. We will need 7 next year. At this point Weathers, Lawson and Groome are nothing but emergency starters. Knehr may be #7 at best but they cannot be counted on by a hopeful playoff team.

I dont think Nick Mart and/or Clevinger even hit FA to be honest..nor does Profar AJP will resign them all (if the 2 opt out) Before FA..if he doesn't sign Clev he will 100% QO him

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 8:42 pm

Assuming all positions players back.. (with Profar opt out and nobody resigned)

2023

1B Crone

2B Rosario (rookie)

SS Kim

3B Machado

C Nola/Alfaro

RF Soto

CF Grisham

LF Tatis Jr

DH/Bench Beaty/Campusano/Kowhley/Batten/Azocar

Other minor leaguers on the cusp of being ready who could play their way in, in ST ...inf/CF/OF Howell/COF Ornelas DH/COF Rooker..1B Martin..Utility Hollis

Not a bad ..in fact maybe even a better starting lineup than 2022 April...

Quote from lafnboy13 on August 12, 2022, 6:52 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 11, 2022, 8:42 pm

Assuming all positions players back.. (with Profar opt out and nobody resigned)

2023

1B Crone

2B Rosario (rookie)

SS Kim

3B Machado

C Nola/Alfaro

RF Soto

CF Grisham

LF Tatis Jr

DH/Bench Beaty/Campusano/Kowhley/Batten/Azocar

Other minor leaguers on the cusp of being ready who could play their way in, in ST ...inf/CF/OF Howell/COF Ornelas DH/COF Rooker..1B Martin..Utility Hollis

Not a bad ..in fact maybe even a better starting lineup than 2022 April...

Rooker was traded to the Royals