Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 2:01 pm

Rowdy Tellez could be another option, however he may benefit a little too much from hitting in Miller Park, and could get Petco'd in SD.

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 2:07 pm

Seth Brown could be an option from OAK. He is still pre-arb, so OAK might be hesitant to give him up yet, but OAK does have some prospects that are close, and could play 1B in the likes of Diaz and Soderstrom.

I know we are desperately low on legit prospects, but could we package enough to get both Murphy and Brown (Murphy Brown.....hahaha for us old guys)? I know we would have to start with Merril, and probably have a lot of quantity in there as well. Probably couldnt field a team in Lake Elsinore for the 2023 season! hahaha

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 2:30 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 2:07 pm

Seth Brown could be an option from OAK. He is still pre-arb, so OAK might be hesitant to give him up yet, but OAK does have some prospects that are close, and could play 1B in the likes of Diaz and Soderstrom.

I know we are desperately low on legit prospects, but could we package enough to get both Murphy and Brown (Murphy Brown.....hahaha for us old guys)? I know we would have to start with Merril, and probably have a lot of quantity in there as well. Probably couldnt field a team in Lake Elsinore for the 2023 season! hahaha

If Siedler is dead serious about going all in ..I save Merrill for an Othani "Deadline" deal.. if LAA stinks and they will with Mariners and Astros and now Bochy in Texas I don't see them higher than 4th..in AL West.. Maybe an overpay.. but what a way to improve DH and SP for a post season run at the Deadline..no matter what we do to improve the team in the offseason.. only Judge is a better BAT in FA and not sure anyone is SP wise..so even of we went Senga and sign say Drury/Peralta .. adding Othani at the deadline would be the cherry on top...having 5 #1 #2 type SP in a 5 game or 7 game series would be amazing

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 2:42 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 2:30 pm

 

If Siedler is dead serious about going all in ..I save Merrill for an Othani "Deadline" deal.. if LAA stinks and they will with Mariners and Astros and now Bochy in Texas I don't see them higher than 4th..in AL West.. Maybe an overpay.. but what a way to improve DH and SP for a post season run at the Deadline..no matter what we do to improve the team in the offseason.. only Judge is a better BAT in FA and not sure anyone is SP wise..so even of we went Senga and sign say Drury/Peralta .. adding Othani at the deadline would be the cherry on top...having 5 #1 #2 type SP in a 5 game or 7 game series would be amazing

I would imagine, that IF Ohtani does become available during the season, that the Padres would not be able to compete with other teams in a package for Ohtani. Even with Merrill. So why Ohtani is a great target, IF he is made available via trade, he will be wearing LAD uniform. Maybe NYY.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 2:57 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 2:42 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 2:30 pm

 

If Siedler is dead serious about going all in ..I save Merrill for an Othani "Deadline" deal.. if LAA stinks and they will with Mariners and Astros and now Bochy in Texas I don't see them higher than 4th..in AL West.. Maybe an overpay.. but what a way to improve DH and SP for a post season run at the Deadline..no matter what we do to improve the team in the offseason.. only Judge is a better BAT in FA and not sure anyone is SP wise..so even of we went Senga and sign say Drury/Peralta .. adding Othani at the deadline would be the cherry on top...having 5 #1 #2 type SP in a 5 game or 7 game series would be amazing

I would imagine, that IF Ohtani does become available during the season, that the Padres would not be able to compete with other teams in a package for Ohtani. Even with Merrill. So why Ohtani is a great target, IF he is made available via trade, he will be wearing LAD uniform. Maybe NYY.

I dont know if anyone would top Merrill *he will be top 10 spec by then

For 2 months of Othani with zero compensation if he signs elsewhere .. is not like Castillo or Soto deals.. no one in their right mind would trade more than AJP could with Merrill.. I mean LAD got Machado for far far less than Merrill..

BTW an interesting arm who has a unique (23/24 both yrs 2/$26mil club option and 1 yr $4mil player option) is James Paxton.. a dominant lefty when healthy.. he had TJ came back and tore his lat muscle.  Is he someone worthy of a risk 1 8mil gamble for 23?.. If he is not re-upped by Boston..and he doesn't opt in at $4mil.. could be a terrific (ace like) #4 or 5th SP..Health a bigger risk vs Clev though ...and also 34 yrs old

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 3:17 pm

Not sure this would happen BUT

J Salas (#5 Marlins 50) + Victor Mesa Jr (45) + T Rodgers SP (Marlins) + OF Zavala (Pads) to Oakland

Sean Murphy C  *Oak)+ Ronald Hernandez (Marlins C spec) to Padres

Campusano + Grishman + Baez to Marlins

 

We get a tremendous upgrade at C/and backup C with Nola assuming that role..add a DH type Bat on days he doesn't catch as well as Murphy has tremendous power.. and Hernandez joins King JR (2022 draft) and Ethan Salas C (soon to be International #1 signing ) to give SDP the best trio of C prospects in baseball..

Miami ready to turn the contention switch on..gets the CFer they've been searching for ..a young C to team up and provide DH ABs and another SP/BP arm to go with their endless arsenal

Oakland gets a work in progress SP with upside MLB ready and tested..a pair of excellent OF specs 3 or 4 yrs away (window) and a 50 INF spec capable of contributing at the MLB level within their window as well...not to mention opening things up for the debut of their top C prospects ..as in multiple yes..

Win/Win/Win all the way around..hate trading Zavala who will be a terrific power/Speed CFer in due tume.time.. But Tatis *long time deal means CF is locked down for a decade+

Quote from fenn68 on October 24, 2022, 4:01 pm

Have to admit coming up with a 1B add that is a plus … fits the payroll limitations if money goes to SP / OF … is actually attainable as a FA or via trade (given the limited trade chips) is not easy. I would rather not spend even in the $6MM range or give up useful trade chips for a “mediocre” body limited to 1B/DH.

I also considered dealing for a minor league prospect that could be ML ready … one that MIGHT be available with the limited trade chips. Long shot here (and gamble) but TB has a AA 1B (their #5), LHH, Kyle Manzardo. Drafted in the 2nd round in 2021 out of college and can hit with a 60 grade with a plus contact component. Ended up his first full season in AA and crushed it. TB has a higher rated INF bat (Mead) also in the wings … so Manzardo may be expendable for some ML pitching … something TB really covets as they try to make the playoffs in 2023.

Could the Padres get some traction with one or more of Morejon, Groome, Castillo, Baez, Knehr, Lugo, Filipe, Vela … or Campusano for a AA 1B? All are low salary and have control … something TB does like. Personally like a Campusano for Manzardo base with two legit prospect. No idea what the Padres’ scouts think of him but hitting in AA in his first full season sure seems promising and even could make the ML jump.

Grasping at straws here!

Side: I have that sneaky feeling that we all will be shocked when the sign Bell to a multi-year deal. Despite his performance as a Padre, his track record is a real plus and his character is a plus plus a la Musgrove which fits what Siedler wants on the team. Maybe primarily a DH and sometime 1B but his bat would allow for 1B to be covered by a lighter hitting / defensive orient player while still lengthening the line-up

Quote from fenn68 on October 24, 2022, 4:14 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 3:17 pm

Not sure this would happen BUT

J Salas (#5 Marlins 50) + Victor Mesa Jr (45) + T Rodgers SP (Marlins) + OF Zavala (Pads) to Oakland

Sean Murphy C  *Oak)+ Ronald Hernandez (Marlins C spec) to Padres

Campusano + Grishman + Baez to Marlins

 

We get a tremendous upgrade at C/and backup C with Nola assuming that role..add a DH type Bat on days he doesn't catch as well as Murphy has tremendous power.. and Hernandez joins King JR (2022 draft) and Ethan Salas C (soon to be International #1 signing ) to give SDP the best trio of C prospects in baseball..

Miami ready to turn the contention switch on..gets the CFer they've been searching for ..a young C to team up and provide DH ABs and another SP/BP arm to go with their endless arsenal

Oakland gets a work in progress SP with upside MLB ready and tested..a pair of excellent OF specs 3 or 4 yrs away (window) and a 50 INF spec capable of contributing at the MLB level within their window as well...not to mention opening things up for the debut of their top C prospects ..as in multiple yes..

Win/Win/Win all the way around..hate trading Zavala who will be a terrific power/Speed CFer in due tume.time.. But Tatis *long time deal means CF is locked down for a decade+

I would like to add Murphy but think Miami gets the short end of the stick in this trade … and probably would not bite. OAK … maybe.

Do the Padres have a direct path to get Murphy out of OAK? They don’t need Campusano since two of their ML ready prospects are C. Maybe something packaging the some of the pitchers I listed above … throw in Rosario … and go for a volume based deal?

Three years of an All-Star catcher at a relatively low salary in 2023 will not be an easy trade since a lot of teams (who may have more quality to trade) are likely in the bidding.

Quote from JasonE135 on October 24, 2022, 6:35 pm

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Quote from JasonE135 on October 23, 2022, 9:21 pm

The Padres traded basically their entire minor league system to pick up big bats at the trade deadline this year. I don't see them handing out more huge contracts for huge bats this off-season. Contreras is going to want a $100 million plus contract. I don't see him getting one here. I'm not sure the Padres will even be willing to afford Senga. He is truly all that I am hoping for this off-season but I don't think it will happen. I actually think the Padres will sign a few garbage starters and no major bats.

Our team is up against the cap, and let's not forget they are still the Padres. I think the biggest thing the Padres need for next year, besides another plus starter, is for Soto to rediscover his stroke. His eye is still as good as ever but his swing is looking long, stiff and slow. We traded for a star who hits .287/.424/.526/.950 lifetime, not just some guy who hits .235/.388/.390/.778. If we had that guy we would likely be in the World Series. If we had him and Tatis hitting like they usually do we would have had a great chance at winning the World Series this year. We don't need more bats, we need the huge bats that we already have to stay healthy, actually show up to play instead of getting suspended and hit like the stars they are.

I think our most important signing this off-season will be our new hitting coach. The Padres should spend $20 million per year if they have to to get someone who can actually get these players to perform. Not another guy nobody has ever heard of just out of college, get the best! Whoever it is we need to outbid everybody else to get the best guy, someone who can get the best out of the players we have.

So in a season when Kim improves his batting by +60..Profar/Manny have one of their best hitting seasons of their career and we led ALL NLCS teams in post season batting .. you want to get rid of the batting coach?? Perhaps we should keep the continuity going..lets not forget even as miserable as Grish was at the plate he still had a career high 18 HRs

So after the Padres made MAJOR offensive investments in Machado, Tatis(both 9 figure contracts) and Soto(emptying our minor leagues) and are right up against the Lux Tax...your solution is to make another MAJOR 9 figure investment and going well over the Lux Tax to sign Contreras instead of maybe fixing Soto(top 10 talent) and getting Tatis(top 10 talent) healthy and playing alongside Machado(top 10 talent)?

If having 3 of the top 10 hitters in MLB not is enough to make the Padres a top 3 offense, nothing will.

If the Padres can just sign Senga and an average #5 starter along with re-signing Martinez and Suarez they will already have just about as much talent as anyone. Maybe not absolutely premium starting pitching, especially if either Snell or Darvish takes a step back, but still good.