Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 9:57 am

Quote from fenn68 on October 24, 2022, 9:30 am

I guess what is "easiest" to add to fill out the roster ... maybe LF/1B.

If that is the "easiest" maybe they should go with Tatis in CF (he has the athletic skills and is going to play somewhere) ... Grisham (plus defense but more than unacceptable offense) goes to the bench as a defensive option ... Padres if they retain Profar who they like in LF they really focus on someone to handle 1B.

I not of the opinion that Grisham burst of hitting in the early playoffs reflects a turnaround for his miserable offensive season ... some confirmed by his miserable NLCS. Love defense but his is not enough to keep him a starter with that offense.

Im sorry, I dont care how good Profar might be in LF defensively, I can not stomach another season of his bat in LF. His bat is not that good. Consider that this was one of Porfars better batting years stat wise, and he still only hit .244/.331/.391. You can not have that SLG (where SD is lacking) in LF, a historically SLG field postion. IF Profar could play CF, then I might be OK with Profar over Grisham, but apparently he cant, so stick with Grisham especially since Grisham is going to be $4M± cheaper than Profar.

Profar is a high level bench player that can handle a spot for an injury term, but he is not an everyday player.

Maybe the best OF alignment maybe Soto in LF, Grisham in CF, and Tatis in RF.

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 10:26 am

Pitching Staff;

I like our 3 SPs returning for 2023 in Darvish, Musgrove, and Snell. Just need Snell to be more consistent through the entire season. Despite the malice towards Clevinger on this board, I still think he returns to SD next season. And I think after his knee heals (probably worse than we know) and a full season of recovery from TJ, he will be an above average #4 SP for SD. IF you all can not stomach a return of Clevinger (which I understand), I do think we should look at Quintana and Z. Davies to fill out the SP 5. Then we can look at some combo of Morejon, Groome, Weathers for the injury/spot start/occasional needed 6th starter. Martinez could also be thrown in the mix for a starters role, although I think his value is better in the pen, since he was not very good seeing the line up the third time through. Although that is the same for 70% of all ML starters now.

With that said, I think some monies needs to be spent to keep both Suarez and Martinez. Their value to the relief staff this season was vital. Then we have to see what we get from Pomeranz, and the other injured RPs returning. Depending on the return of Suarez and Martinez, I do think we will have some pitching to use for a possible trade towards a bat or younger SP candidate.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 10:28 am

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 9:57 am

Quote from fenn68 on October 24, 2022, 9:30 am

I guess what is "easiest" to add to fill out the roster ... maybe LF/1B.

If that is the "easiest" maybe they should go with Tatis in CF (he has the athletic skills and is going to play somewhere) ... Grisham (plus defense but more than unacceptable offense) goes to the bench as a defensive option ... Padres if they retain Profar who they like in LF they really focus on someone to handle 1B.

I not of the opinion that Grisham burst of hitting in the early playoffs reflects a turnaround for his miserable offensive season ... some confirmed by his miserable NLCS. Love defense but his is not enough to keep him a starter with that offense.

Im sorry, I dont care how good Profar might be in LF defensively, I can not stomach another season of his bat in LF. His bat is not that good. Consider that this was one of Porfars better batting years stat wise, and he still only hit .244/.331/.391. You can not have that SLG (where SD is lacking) in LF, a historically SLG field postion. IF Profar could play CF, then I might be OK with Profar over Grisham, but apparently he cant, so stick with Grisham especially since Grisham is going to be $4M± cheaper than Profar.

Profar is a high level bench player that can handle a spot for an injury term, but he is not an everyday player.

Maybe the best OF alignment maybe Soto in LF, Grisham in CF, and Tatis in RF.

I am with u here ..best thing that can happen really is Profar opting out...Same or less money = AS Joc Peterson (even if he just hits RHP) that's 500 PAs and 25-30 Bombs.. ok with Azocar/Dixon hitting vs lefties the other 300 or so PAs in which Joc doesnt.at DH/LF

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 10:33 am

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 10:26 am

Pitching Staff;

I like our 3 SPs returning for 2023 in Darvish, Musgrove, and Snell. Just need Snell to be more consistent through the entire season. Despite the malice towards Clevinger on this board, I still think he returns to SD next season. And I think after his knee heals (probably worse than we know) and a full season of recovery from TJ, he will be an above average #4 SP for SD. IF you all can not stomach a return of Clevinger (which I understand), I do think we should look at Quintana and Z. Davies to fill out the SP 5. Then we can look at some combo of Morejon, Groome, Weathers for the injury/spot start/occasional needed 6th starter. Martinez could also be thrown in the mix for a starters role, although I think his value is better in the pen, since he was not very good seeing the line up the third time through. Although that is the same for 70% of all ML starters now.

With that said, I think some monies needs to be spent to keep both Suarez and Martinez. Their value to the relief staff this season was vital. Then we have to see what we get from Pomeranz, and the other injured RPs returning. Depending on the return of Suarez and Martinez, I do think we will have some pitching to use for a possible trade towards a bat or younger SP candidate.

I think Clev 2nd yr from TJ and scope the knee in offseason will be a HUGE SP (as in our top 3 like) in 2023..also because of struggles and costing us a full yr of $$ for nothing ..have a feeling he would come back on a 1yr $5mil "Showcase" type deal to build value for 2024 FA .. if so..have zero problem with Clev as the #5.. still need a #4 though..and SENGA (JPN) $$ and upside is the best value for the bucks in FA in my opinion

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Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 10:37 am

1. YU

2. SNELL

3. MUSGROVE

4.FA SENGA 5/75

5. Clevinger $5

6.Martinez/Groome (with the other in Martinez 22 role)

To start 2023 would be terrific... can always add at Deadline if need be (Othani 😆 🤣)

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 10:38 am

I do think that Pederson will see a little more than $6M in a FA contract this season. And SF does have interest in Pederson returning, as I believe that they already approached him for an extension. But even at $8-10M next season, we really could have used his .278 BA/.356 OBP/ .538 SLG and 21 HRs versus RHP this year, especially against PHI.

With only 21 games, and a bad fielding percentage, I dont think I would trust him at 1B, but if we wanted a true LF/DH he would be a good start.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 10:41 am

Quote from BoosterSD on October 24, 2022, 10:38 am

I do think that Pederson will see a little more than $6M in a FA contract this season. And SF does have interest in Pederson returning, as I believe that they already approached him for an extension. But even at $8-10M next season, we really could have used his .278 BA/.356 OBP/ .538 SLG and 21 HRs versus RHP this year, especially against PHI.

With only 21 games, and a bad fielding percentage, I dont think I would trust him at 1B, but if we wanted a true LF/DH he would be a good start.

Drury/Joc may be a good duo at $15 to $18mil combined.. would still need. Dixon 1B/3B/COF/DH is versatile enough to back up both from the bench

David Peralta would be a nice back up plan to missing out on Joc..

Quote from fenn68 on October 24, 2022, 10:49 am

My guess it that money will be the cost / risk balance in signing Clevinger.

For the record I WAS very pro Clevinger at the acquisition and going into 2022. However, way more cautions going forward … seeing him maybe a gamble as a #5 SP.

He will be 32 … he is coming off his 2nd TJ and the rebound record is much less documented than when done with 22 year olds. Then add his history (a very long history) of injuries beyond the TJs … this year’s the knee.

If they could land him at a very low base and incentives based on innings … something to think about as the #5. However, want a much more reliable pitcher to fill out the first 4 (in case Darvish, Snell, or Musgrove goes down).

If the money is there … not really looking at a #4 but looking for a upper rotation option to pitch at the level of the Top 3. I would be chasing down Rodon … maybe Bassett … and if the scouting fits, Senga. Not sure who else out there fits the impact I am looking for.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 24, 2022, 10:55 am

Quote from fenn68 on October 24, 2022, 10:49 am

My guess it that money will be the cost / risk balance in signing Clevinger.

For the record I WAS very pro Clevinger at the acquisition and going into 2022. However, way more cautions going forward … seeing him maybe a gamble as a #5 SP.

He will be 32 … he is coming off his 2nd TJ and the rebound record is much less documented than when done with 22 year olds. Then add his history (a very long history) of injuries beyond the TJs … this year’s the knee.

If they could land him at a very low base and incentives based on innings … something to think about as the #5. However, want a much more reliable pitcher to fill out the first 4 (in case Darvish, Snell, or Musgrove goes down).

If the money is there … not really looking at a #4 but looking for a upper rotation option to pitch at the level of the Top 3. I would be chasing down Rodon … maybe Bassett … and if the scouting fits, Senga. Not sure who else out there fits the impact I am looking for.

De Groom..Tyler Anderson.. are FA too.. so is Quezada, Tajuan, etc..its a solid group of SP