Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:17 am

I am higher on Rosario than most.  His career path and progression from A+ to AA to AAA is straight up.. I look at his AA #'s (not the easiest place for hitters) and I am super encouraged ..

With that said I prefer Kim at 2B for 2023 (going for all of it) and think Eguy in AAA (2nd season) does nothing for his development .. he is at his highest value right now and as a 2nd or 3rd chip in a trade would up our return significantly.. in the right situation Eguy can be the regular 3B/2B or SS ..in SDP he is last man on the bench with no playing time ..thus value deteriorates... Teams looking for help in those areas or even for a super utility guy should find him "interesting".. with our roster he aint playing much even with one or 2 injuries as our roster construction has 5 players that can fill these 3 positions in its regular lineup

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2023, 8:25 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 7:35 am

Engel and Azocar are great defenders .. we don't have a reg 1B so Crone can replace Kim at 2B... whereas CF is cover "defensively" and the offensive bar is quite low (2022 not potentially).. we can carry a defensive CF .. is why Grish would be "the only" regular position player I would be willing to move.. no contradiction..just the way the roster is built at this moment

I can agree that the defense of Engel/Azocar or Engel/Dahl based on ST performance could cover the loss of Grisham in CF. And keeping Crone at 2B (All Star) would need a back fill for 1B. Thats why I would look at a trade with TAM, and get Diaz. Place him at 1B, and keep Crone at 2B. Would also lighten the load for Carpenter, age 37, and Cruz, age 42, and all 3 of those would help in carrying a defensive CF platoon.

Just not sure what it would take to get Diaz out of TAM. I do know that TAM and Diaz did not reach a arb agreement, and are set to go to hearing, so TAM with money constraints, could be willing to part with Diaz as he gets more expensive.

So we would still have the GG caliber defense up the middle, and Diaz bat is better than Kims, and Diaz would be cheaper than Kim as well.

I could definitely live with an OF of Soto, Engel/Dahl or Azocar, Tatis and an INF of Machado, Bogaerts, Crone, and Diaz. And with Carpenter and Cruz available for DH duty, that is one deep batting order. Maybe the best in ML this season.

And then the add of Luzardo and Garrett, deepens the rotation and bull pen for 2023 and going forward.

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2023, 8:29 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:17 am

I am higher on Rosario than most.  His career path and progression from A+ to AA to AAA is straight up.. I look at his AA #'s (not the easiest place for hitters) and I am super encouraged ..

With that said I prefer Kim at 2B for 2023 (going for all of it) and think Eguy in AAA (2nd season) does nothing for his development .. he is at his highest value right now and as a 2nd or 3rd chip in a trade would up our return significantly.. in the right situation Eguy can be the regular 3B/2B or SS ..in SDP he is last man on the bench with no playing time ..thus value deteriorates... Teams looking for help in those areas or even for a super utility guy should find him "interesting".. with our roster he aint playing much even with one or 2 injuries as our roster construction has 5 players that can fill these 3 positions in its regular lineup

I agree with your train of thought, just got to find a team that values Rosario as much as you! 😉😊

And if I can find a good 1B, and keep Crone at 2B, then I have no issue trading Kim. Where IMO, most of his value is in his defense at SS.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:37 am

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2023, 8:29 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:17 am

I am higher on Rosario than most.  His career path and progression from A+ to AA to AAA is straight up.. I look at his AA #'s (not the easiest place for hitters) and I am super encouraged ..

With that said I prefer Kim at 2B for 2023 (going for all of it) and think Eguy in AAA (2nd season) does nothing for his development .. he is at his highest value right now and as a 2nd or 3rd chip in a trade would up our return significantly.. in the right situation Eguy can be the regular 3B/2B or SS ..in SDP he is last man on the bench with no playing time ..thus value deteriorates... Teams looking for help in those areas or even for a super utility guy should find him "interesting".. with our roster he aint playing much even with one or 2 injuries as our roster construction has 5 players that can fill these 3 positions in its regular lineup

I agree with your train of thought, just got to find a team that values Rosario as much as you!

And if I can find a good 1B, and keep Crone at 2B, then I have no issue trading Kim. Where IMO, most of his value is in his defense at SS.

He would be a good fit in Braves.. at least to bridge the gap.. otherwise many non contenders could use him... Marlins have Jazz and Segura BUT have a need at either one of the 3 spots with only 2 players.. and even if Berti/or other could cover 2B.. they are better off with Eguy's D at SS and/or would need a utility backup for all 3 spots.. all their INF options at SS are < Rosario there..and backup SS is almost non existing at this moment

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:40 am

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2023, 8:29 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:17 am

I am higher on Rosario than most.  His career path and progression from A+ to AA to AAA is straight up.. I look at his AA #'s (not the easiest place for hitters) and I am super encouraged ..

With that said I prefer Kim at 2B for 2023 (going for all of it) and think Eguy in AAA (2nd season) does nothing for his development .. he is at his highest value right now and as a 2nd or 3rd chip in a trade would up our return significantly.. in the right situation Eguy can be the regular 3B/2B or SS ..in SDP he is last man on the bench with no playing time ..thus value deteriorates... Teams looking for help in those areas or even for a super utility guy should find him "interesting".. with our roster he aint playing much even with one or 2 injuries as our roster construction has 5 players that can fill these 3 positions in its regular lineup

I agree with your train of thought, just got to find a team that values Rosario as much as you!

And if I can find a good 1B, and keep Crone at 2B, then I have no issue trading Kim. Where IMO, most of his value is in his defense at SS.

Just not sure we can get a 1B in FA (unless AJP thinks Guriel ..and he checked in on him earlier.. can be had cheap and would upgrade the team vs Kim and Crone..ie Crone + Guriel > or = Kim + Crone..

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:42 am

Boston might be a good fit for Eguy too.. if Andrus or others are looking for too much money..

Maybe tied to one of our BP arms like Crismatt for a spec at OF or SP in the AA developmental stage with similar value..even someone further down the line ..

 

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2023, 8:48 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:37 am

 

He would be a good fit in Braves.. at least to bridge the gap.. otherwise many non contenders could use him... Marlins have Jazz and Segura BUT have a need at either one of the 3 spots with only 2 players.. and even if Berti/or other could cover 2B.. they are better off with Eguy's D at SS and/or would need a utility backup for all 3 spots.. all their INF options at SS are < Rosario there..and backup SS is almost non existing at this moment

I dont see Rosario as an option for ATL, they have Grissom. Both are rookies, and IF ATL was to add a SS, would think it would be for more of a proven ML player, like Kim.

And I have toted for awhile the fit of a trade with SD and ATL, involving Kim for Anderson and Elder. Once again, getting SD two young SPs for Kim.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 9:00 am

Quote from BoosterSD on January 16, 2023, 8:48 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 16, 2023, 8:37 am

 

He would be a good fit in Braves.. at least to bridge the gap.. otherwise many non contenders could use him... Marlins have Jazz and Segura BUT have a need at either one of the 3 spots with only 2 players.. and even if Berti/or other could cover 2B.. they are better off with Eguy's D at SS and/or would need a utility backup for all 3 spots.. all their INF options at SS are < Rosario there..and backup SS is almost non existing at this moment

I dont see Rosario as an option for ATL, they have Grissom. Both are rookies, and IF ATL was to add a SS, would think it would be for more of a proven ML player, like Kim.

And I have toted for awhile the fit of a trade with SD and ATL, involving Kim for Anderson and Elder. Once again, getting SD two young SPs for Kim.

Say we start ST .. Kim goes to WBC and Rosario starts and plays a ton at SS (Xander in WBC too) giving reps to Merrill (not ready) and Batten as well at 2B/SS.. and Rosario goes off a la Azocar last yr.. would we trust a Rosario 2B/Crone 1B ..Kim traded scenario around March 18?

I think from a fielding perspective they are quite close ..Kim> cause he has done it at MLB level.. but I think Eguy's range is >..Offensively (if Eguy is close to Kim..look at Kim's path and think Eguy = 2021 Kim in 2023..learning curve... if he is > Kim with the bat over 162.. then a plus..

Obviously more ? Than answers but of Kim = a potential replacement for Snell in 2024 and at least a #4 for 2023.. aka Luzardo .. then Lets Go!

Otherwise stay the course ..lets see what ST brings ..lets see how Tatis looks .. and let's see all these arms in action and Healthy before making moves that might alter the teams chemistry/Defense and potentially derail this jagornaut...

Quote from Randy Manese on January 16, 2023, 9:33 am

Watched a lot of El Paso games on MiLB and my take is that Rosario is about average defensively at 2b and 3b and below average at shortstop.  Kim is elite defensively at all three positions.  Kim has a better history as a hitter because of his years in the KBO and appears ready to move up his offensive game a bit this year.  Eggy struggles with breaking stuff but has improved his strike zone judgment in the past year, however, not sure he can hit 225 over the long haul in the majors.  Don't see Rosario as an equivalent substitute for Kim but certainly hoping he has a breakout spring training that validates possible growth.

If Kim is traded early in ST, likely see Schrock moved up or, wait for it, the re-signing of Profar at a much lower salary than Profar thought he would get.  Profar would be the super utility guy and could play 1b, if he starts to hit, with Croney moving back to 2b.  Still got to move some money to make this scenario happen.  Profar would love to come back to SD.