Quote from fenn68 on December 14, 2022, 4:37 pm

Quote from WindsorUK on December 14, 2022, 4:17 pm

Quote from lafnboy13 on December 14, 2022, 3:57 pm

We should get Hosmer back

I've actually been thinking the same thing.

We're already paying him, guys like him, he's a left handed bat......why not?

I wonder how Melvin / Preller feel about him or how Hosmer feels about returning to the Padres (getting paid anyway). Might just like to be released and hang around in Miami with his new wife.

Players liked him but from a club perspective was he on board with the team direction or was he a bit counter productive while Preller was trying to deal him for a long time. Don’t know but has to be considered.

 

Quote from fenn68 on December 14, 2022, 4:41 pm

Tigers sign RHP Lorenzen for one year / $8.5MM (plus incentives). Not on my radar. Basically a low 4 ERA type put short in innings so not really a Padres fit.

But if he can score $8.5 and Syndergaard get $13MM we may be seeing a bracket for the few remaining SP.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 14, 2022, 5:05 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 14, 2022, 2:22 pm

I'll take Seth Brown(A's)/Drury (or Myers) as my Lefty/Righty platoon DH/1B/LF

Seth Brown requires a trade.

At this point I’d prefer to hold onto our prospects if at all possible.

 

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 14, 2022, 7:34 pm

David Peralta still out there as well.. Great vs RHP.. could use the Vet as a Platoon option and he is an excellent defender as well as a SDP killer . Keep em in our arsenal.. maybe 1/8 2/16 type deal gets it done...Healthier vs Brantley and a bit younger too...

Quote from dusty on December 14, 2022, 8:45 pm

I guess I may be in the minority of thinking Bogaerts is insurance in case of Manny’s opt out. I think he is here to replace Crone or Kim. I don’t think Seidler or AJ even take a chance of  Manny walking. <5% chance they don’t lock him up with an extension/new deal before the season ends….possibly even as early as before the season starts. Don’t want what happened with Bogaerts to happen to the Padres and Manny. I think Kim and Crone have and will continue to have huge trade values. Depending on how the season goes one will be gone at the latest before next season.

 

I think both Manny and Darvish sign new deals. But I am intrigued at what is going to happen these next few weeks

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 15, 2022, 5:08 am

Quote from dusty on December 14, 2022, 8:45 pm

I guess I may be in the minority of thinking Bogaerts is insurance in case of Manny’s opt out. I think he is here to replace Crone or Kim. I don’t think Seidler or AJ even take a chance of  Manny walking. <5% chance they don’t lock him up with an extension/new deal before the season ends….possibly even as early as before the season starts. Don’t want what happened with Bogaerts to happen to the Padres and Manny. I think Kim and Crone have and will continue to have huge trade values. Depending on how the season goes one will be gone at the latest before next season.

 

I think both Manny and Darvish sign new deals. But I am intrigued at what is going to happen these next few weeks

I agree on both points.

Seidler won't let Manny go and Kim and Crone have too much value right now not to at least be exploring trade options.

But,I don't think either is traded unless the return is a controllable SP that is "at least" a quality #3 if not a #2 even if we have to add Zavala or Lizarraga or different prospect or two.

 

Quote from fenn68 on December 15, 2022, 6:01 am

Might be willing to trade Kim or Cronenworth but can’t see a deal out there that gives a return the Padres need considering the move will just create another hole in the line-up … plus in one position … minus in another position.

Maybe the Kim - Arraez works for both teams filling needs with “equal” talent.

As for a #2-3 SP, hard to see many teams that have and are willing to deal that quality of pitcher with long control and low cost and actually need/want Kim or Cronenworth. That quality of pitcher most likely comes from a non-contender for a treasure trove of prospects. MIA has some quality pitchers but in the NL East look to desisted to a distant 4th with no playoff chances …will want low cost / long control prospects. MINN is open to moving Sonny Gray but he is one year control … Kim is worth more to the team. Just hard to get quality SP on the trade market.

I am going with the adds (pitchers or hitters) being more complementary mid range players at a low salary and attainable if a trade using RP or mid-range prospects (not the  high potential). More like Rosario, Knehr, and the like.

Quote from fenn68 on December 15, 2022, 7:07 am

Always need to consider the fallback positions ... for a LHH for part-time / bench role at a low cost (probably under $8MM ... some a lot less) still has:

Peralta (35)

Gamel (31)

Smith (28)

C.Dickerson (34)

Grossman (33) ... switch hitter

some gambles on all but for the bench / part-time? The bigger names Benintendi, Conforto, Brantley, Gallo should be considerable more expensive and will expect to regularly start.

Might be able to sign Peralta and Gamel for the price of Benintendi ... and on an offense with the big 4 having the depth over 162 games may be better than just one better player ... but in reality how much better?

 

Quote from fenn68 on December 15, 2022, 7:19 am

Getting no sense of any serious bidders on Benintendi or Conforto ... interest yes but no push to sign. Unclear what they are holding out to get which could be part of the hold-up. Early projections had Benintendi on a 4 year deal (that could be a issue) and about $14MM per. On Conforto a real unknown having not played last year ... Boras the agent ... need for a year to reestablish his value.

Sort of between those two as the top of the LHH OF market. Benintendi is the more sure thing for 2023 but Conforto has the better upside if you like power. At what difference in price does the gamble on Conforto make more sense than Benintendi. IF Benintendi is $56MM/4 years, would Conforto at $12MM (with incentives and 2024 option) become a better signing considering the risk? How HIGH would you go on Conforto to consider the deal equal value / risk  to the $56MM/4 for Benintendi?