Quote from MrPadre19 on March 28, 2020, 12:30 pm

No interest in keeping Cronenworth up who can play the most positions and pitch?

I would think having a true SS available(to spell Tatis w/multiple doubleheader’s looming) who can also play other positions may be needed.

Plus who knows...he may be able to get those 20 innings and next year be able to be rostered as a 2 way player making him even more valuable.

I think I’d rather see him than Valera or Torrens.

 

Quote from fenn68 on March 28, 2020, 12:47 pm

Quote from MrPadre19 on March 28, 2020, 12:30 pm

No interest in keeping Cronenworth up who can play the most positions and pitch?

I would think having a true SS available(to spell Tatis w/multiple doubleheader’s looming) who can also play other positions may be needed.

Plus who knows...he may be able to get those 20 innings and next year be able to be rostered as a 2 way player making him even more valuable.

I think I’d rather see him than Valera or Torrens.

 

I suspect that for the first 30-60 days of the season Tatis will have no issue playing every game (and 2 on Sunday) ... not at his age and energy level. If needed in that timeframe, Profar will slide over.

If Cronenworth starts in the minors ... keeps sharp ... he should be more productive as a fill-in when called up in a couple of months when more likely he would get in games for resting regulars ... especially if (as reported) those extra pitchers will only be for a limited time (maybe 30 days) so his role as the extra inning / blowout specialist would be useful. He (and the Padres) may also benefit from Cronenworth throwing in the minors ... ST hype as a pitcher but was not all that effective in the minors (limited) last season and had not pitched since college (4 years?). Both may want to see some in game success before auditioning in the ML.

Quote from Brian Connelly on March 29, 2020, 10:50 am

Quote from LynchMob on March 28, 2020, 12:28 pm

Padres optioned RHP Gerardo Reyes to Triple-A El Paso.

The 26-year-old right-hander was not expected to crack the Opening Day bullpen, so this doesn't come as a major surprise. Reyes registered a 7.62 ERA, 1.35 WHIP and 38/11 K/BB ratio across 26 innings with the big league club in 2019. He should get an opportunity to pitch for the Padres at some point during the 2020 season.

Only player Pads option down before the roster freeze.  Most other teams in the 3,4,5 guys down range.

I don't KNOW, but am guessing the implication is that guys who were optioned down BEFORE the roster freeze will not earn MLB ST if the worst case happens and there is no season at all.   So Reyes who has 0.071 yr MLB ST, would be at that # entering 2021 offseason, but David Bednar who is still in "camp" would double his 0.029 MLB ST from last year & enter 2021 with 0.058.

Similarly, Morejon would be "frozen" at 0.071, but Michel Baez's 0.071 would double to 0.142.

Again, just guessing.  But seems logical that teams don't have all 40 guys on roster getting credit for a full year (OR whatever they received last year) if there ends up being no season.  They probably all do get that nominal pay as agreed upon as MLB players regardless of if they've been optioned or not.

Quote from Brian Connelly on March 29, 2020, 11:39 am

With Reyes optioned down, and rosters likely expanding I put Javier Guerra (7th RP), and also Lucchessi (either 5th/6th SP) into roster "lock" category.   That's 5 SP, 7 RP, 2 C, 5 INF (Profar, Garcia), 3 OF now "locks" = 22 players

Barring any other moves here's who's left competing for the remaining 7 spots on estimated 29-man roster to open season.       Bold = O.D. roster.  Italics = Non-roster.  Red = Off-roster  Blue =Add to Roster.

SP:  Quantrill, M. Baez ("RP"), Eickhoff

RP:  Perdomo, J. Castillo, Bednar, Wingenter, Yacabonis, Munoz (to 60-IL formality)

C:  Torrens

INF:  Dozier, Valera (Waivers), Cronenworth, France

OF:  Naylor, Lagares, Almonte, Cordero

The 3 additional spots are going to:  Q, Baez, & Torrens.  I had Perdomo slotted for the 8th bullpen spot over Q or "he's healthy? but hasn't played in > 1 year" Jose Castillo.  Basically like the length those 3 P's give for that first month, then 2 of the 3 will have to go down.  Eickhoff & Yacabonis interesting as swingmen too, but 40-man is too tight.  Even with Munoz gone, pretty awesome depth in AAA with:  Castillo, Wingenter, Bednar, & Reyes.  After a month Baez to AAA/AA to start, and maybe same for Q?

The Non-roster players with incentives in their deals become relatively better values as I assume any player with incentives (ex. Garrett Richards) are just going to be left holding the bag as the incentives are typically structured around max contributions over a full 162 game season.  Dozier was a near lock anyway, but now I lean towards Lagares (over Almonte who had a great Spring early) as that regular defensive sub somewhere in the OF, and getting some starts in CF vs LHP.   Keeping both Almonte & Lagares as FENN suggested is interesting but hard to see giving up anyone on 40-man to add another guy.  Keeping Valera around for a month is a real option though, but think Pads like the freedom having the 3rd C gives them to sub defensively at C for Mejia's starts.  Torrens likely won't play much, but it's only for a month.

 

Quote from fenn68 on March 29, 2020, 11:52 am

Quote from Brian Connelly on March 29, 2020, 10:50 am

Quote from LynchMob on March 28, 2020, 12:28 pm

Padres optioned RHP Gerardo Reyes to Triple-A El Paso.

The 26-year-old right-hander was not expected to crack the Opening Day bullpen, so this doesn't come as a major surprise. Reyes registered a 7.62 ERA, 1.35 WHIP and 38/11 K/BB ratio across 26 innings with the big league club in 2019. He should get an opportunity to pitch for the Padres at some point during the 2020 season.

Only player Pads option down before the roster freeze.  Most other teams in the 3,4,5 guys down range.

I don't KNOW, but am guessing the implication is that guys who were optioned down BEFORE the roster freeze will not earn MLB ST if the worst case happens and there is no season at all.   So Reyes who has 0.071 yr MLB ST, would be at that # entering 2021 offseason, but David Bednar who is still in "camp" would double his 0.029 MLB ST from last year & enter 2021 with 0.058.

Similarly, Morejon would be "frozen" at 0.071, but Michel Baez's 0.071 would double to 0.142.

Again, just guessing.  But seems logical that teams don't have all 40 guys on roster getting credit for a full year (OR whatever they received last year) if there ends up being no season.  They probably all do get that nominal pay as agreed upon as MLB players regardless of if they've been optioned or not.

Hard to read between the lines but teams may be considering that in light of the expected 29 man rosters to start the season they don't want to use a minor league option before they need to ... and the optioned players are ones that the teams are confident are not making the 29 man roster.

Need a player "cushion" on the active roster to get through the abbreviated ST without injury or to still make the call between player A or B (both may not come back as effective as they were when activity stopped).

Maybe someone like Wingenter is not likely to make the team but he may be next up if the pitching staff jumps to 16 and one of the "top 16" gets injured or one of the "top 16" just underperforms in ST ... so they don't option him. Has 2 option years but why waste one prematurely if there is still a chance he will be in the ML for the season?

Same kind of logic with Torrens (on one minor league option) ... keep him around through ST in case one of Mejia or Hedges a significant injury and goes 60 day IL. Torrens stays (maybe for the season) and saves his option year for 2021.

Maybe for the marginal players ... preserving the minor league options is more valuable than any service time considerations (and related money).

Quote from fenn68 on March 29, 2020, 12:16 pm

Maybe some wiggle room for another non-roster add ... if anyone deserves the slot:

Trey Wingenter has yet to pitch this spring due to right shoulder inflammation.

Wingenter was given an injection in his shoulder and "has been working on strength stuff," per Padres manager Jayce Tingler. It's sounding line the reliever could begin the season on the injured list.

SOURCE: MLB.com

Mar 8, 2020, 3:06 PM ET

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I guess there is a chance he also goes to the 60 IL (with Munoz) and with a DFA of Valera could create room for three non-roster adds ... Dozier, Almonte, Lagares since they look to be fully stocked with pitchers for the ML level ... but a few non-roster pitchers looked good so maybe Yacabonis if continues to look good in the return window and/or one of the "top 16" pitchers gets injured.

Trying to cover as many scenarios as possible and not do any move before necessary.

Quote from WindsorUK on March 30, 2020, 3:14 am

Cool article in the UT today, about Bud Black

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sports-columnists/story/2020-03-29/bud-black-manager-rockies-padres-mlb-season-delayed-opening-day-coronavirus

This pandemic has changed everything! For the traditionalists and purists, the game might be irrevocably altered....and it's not a bad thing. This is almost like a reset. This is an opportunity to move forward without the hassle of discussing it for years then trying it out on a limited basis. If the league were ever considering ANY changes, NOW is the time to implement them. I just want to see baseball, I don't care in what form-fan free stadiums, 7 inning double headers, limited substitutions, you name it, bring it on!

Quote from MrPadre19 on April 15, 2020, 10:00 am

I know there are questions about our rotation but how could we rank behind the Giants and Rockies?

 

CBS Sports ranks MLB starting rotations.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-power-rankings-who-has-best-rotation-nationals-hold-three-aces-mets-yankees-hurt-by-injuries/

Quote from BoosterSD on April 15, 2020, 5:06 pm

Saw that, its just asinine to that either the Rox or the Giants will have a better rotation that SD. Especially COL.