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Quote from Ben Davey on September 21, 2020, 10:08 pmHave you guys looked at the possible opponents roster?
Kris Bryant .195/.283/.301
Rizzo .213/.330/.383
Schwarber .193/.310/.407Cinci
Votto .231/.353/.450
Castellanos .230/.305/..500
Moustakas .218/.338/.420Mil
Yellich /218/.358/.453
Braun .255/.303/.527
Vogelbach .219/336/.406Cards
Wong .252/.343/.310
Goldy .307/.426/.482
DeJong .258/.333/.364Really only Philly and to a lesser extend Miami have a halfway decent lineup this year, and even then not exactly scary.
IMO Lamet and Sunshine can take out the best lineups in baseball,so I'd rather go against a +hitting bad pitching team. I can see a bad offense still scoring a run or two against Lamet and Wainwright or Bauer shutting down our offense. Which BTW, the Cards have one pitcher this year throw more than 40 innings (Wainwright) the Padres have 4.
Have you guys looked at the possible opponents roster?
Kris Bryant .195/.283/.301
Rizzo .213/.330/.383
Schwarber .193/.310/.407
Cinci
Votto .231/.353/.450
Castellanos .230/.305/..500
Moustakas .218/.338/.420
Mil
Yellich /218/.358/.453
Braun .255/.303/.527
Vogelbach .219/336/.406
Cards
Wong .252/.343/.310
Goldy .307/.426/.482
DeJong .258/.333/.364
Really only Philly and to a lesser extend Miami have a halfway decent lineup this year, and even then not exactly scary.
IMO Lamet and Sunshine can take out the best lineups in baseball,so I'd rather go against a +hitting bad pitching team. I can see a bad offense still scoring a run or two against Lamet and Wainwright or Bauer shutting down our offense. Which BTW, the Cards have one pitcher this year throw more than 40 innings (Wainwright) the Padres have 4.
Quote from Randy Manese on September 22, 2020, 9:42 amI think that's why, particularly in the WC series, teams don't really want to face a team like Cincinnati or Cleveland because they have the pitchers that can also shut down an offense. It's the same thing that's been keeping the Dodgers afloat despite low averages because they hit clutch home runs and that's what makes some of those averages irrelevant. Our kryptonite seems to have been left-handed pitching, but I hope getting Pham back and possibly Campusano as a situational DH, may help in those games. Looking forward to getting some momentum in these last 6 games and carrying it through deep into the playoffs.
I think that's why, particularly in the WC series, teams don't really want to face a team like Cincinnati or Cleveland because they have the pitchers that can also shut down an offense. It's the same thing that's been keeping the Dodgers afloat despite low averages because they hit clutch home runs and that's what makes some of those averages irrelevant. Our kryptonite seems to have been left-handed pitching, but I hope getting Pham back and possibly Campusano as a situational DH, may help in those games. Looking forward to getting some momentum in these last 6 games and carrying it through deep into the playoffs.
Quote from Brian Connelly on September 22, 2020, 11:21 amReally only Philly and to a lesser extend Miami have a halfway decent lineup this year, and even then not exactly scary.
IMO Lamet and Sunshine can take out the best lineups in baseball,so I'd rather go against a +hitting bad pitching team.
Cubs couldn't be till League championship round... glad it can't be SF in 1st round just "because".
Philly's bullpen looks devastatingly bad: the early trade for Boston RP's Workman & Hembree did NOT work out: Both WHIPS way > 2.00 with Philly, Workman 6+ ERA, Hembree 12+! Whatever rest of Phillies RP's are doing wrong rubbed off on them.
Marlins make me nervous b/c: 1) They're not "supposed to" be there, 2) Weird good road record, 3) Sixto Sanchez
Cardinals make me irrationally nervous based way more on their past pedigree as a good year in year out team esp in playoffs
Gotta play someone! Whoever we get is a good "problem" to have!
Really only Philly and to a lesser extend Miami have a halfway decent lineup this year, and even then not exactly scary.
IMO Lamet and Sunshine can take out the best lineups in baseball,so I'd rather go against a +hitting bad pitching team.
Cubs couldn't be till League championship round... glad it can't be SF in 1st round just "because".
Philly's bullpen looks devastatingly bad: the early trade for Boston RP's Workman & Hembree did NOT work out: Both WHIPS way > 2.00 with Philly, Workman 6+ ERA, Hembree 12+! Whatever rest of Phillies RP's are doing wrong rubbed off on them.
Marlins make me nervous b/c: 1) They're not "supposed to" be there, 2) Weird good road record, 3) Sixto Sanchez
Cardinals make me irrationally nervous based way more on their past pedigree as a good year in year out team esp in playoffs
Gotta play someone! Whoever we get is a good "problem" to have!
Quote from Brian Connelly on September 22, 2020, 12:59 pmQuote from Randy Manese on September 22, 2020, 9:42 amI think that's why, particularly in the WC series, teams don't really want to face a team like Cincinnati or Cleveland because they have the pitchers that can also shut down an offense. It's the same thing that's been keeping the Dodgers afloat despite low averages because they hit clutch home runs and that's what makes some of those averages irrelevant. Our kryptonite seems to have been left-handed pitching, but I hope getting Pham back and possibly Campusano as a situational DH, may help in those games. Looking forward to getting some momentum in these last 6 games and carrying it through deep into the playoffs.
Hope you mean "PH"... Campusano (or Ona, or Mejia) not going to RH DH over Pham.
Personally, I think it's ludicrous to consider Campusano here: He has 1 game MLB DH with the HR & 2 K's. Ask yourself: if he had K'ed, grounded out, or even flied out to the warning track that 3rd AB... and debuted 0-3 with 2-3 K's, would his name even come up as a possibility, or are we putting too much weight on a great debut/1st hit=HR? Really same thing with Ona; they were both injury driven callups who really aren't seasoned anywhere close to enough for the playoffs.
Only have those 3 above & Greg Allen as possible 14th position player. I can't see Allen going in defensively over any of the 3 starters in a close game, so he's likely off roster in wings as an injury replacement. That leaves Mejia. I hated him getting sent down right after coming off IL, but it was kind of forced by the SP minor injury skipped starts & RP's returning from IL. Silver lining is getting more AB’s in the controlled environment @ Alt site & maybe getting him “back” to where he can actually hit from Left side.
Given the exact weird circumstances of the playoff schedule this season, in the 3 game series I would prefer Mejia as my last/28th man on the roster over a 15th P (Altavilla). With being locked into our playoff seed before season ends, followed by 2 days off before, then 3-4 days off after the series, I just can’t envision a scenario where we would “need” that 15th P more than we MIGHT need Mejia for a big PH / C depth. Even if all 3 games went to pen early:
6 “SP’s”: incl G. Richards & Morejon (L) … that’s 2 per game!
8 RP’s: Rosenthal, Pomeranz (L), Pagan, A. Adams*, Strahm (L), Hill (L), P. Johnson, Stammen *if not healthy / “ready”: Altavilla
The 5 game & 7 game series with no Off days during, and only 1 off day between, I’d probably go with the 15th P over Mejia, but maybe a longer arm like Lucchesi?
Quote from Randy Manese on September 22, 2020, 9:42 amI think that's why, particularly in the WC series, teams don't really want to face a team like Cincinnati or Cleveland because they have the pitchers that can also shut down an offense. It's the same thing that's been keeping the Dodgers afloat despite low averages because they hit clutch home runs and that's what makes some of those averages irrelevant. Our kryptonite seems to have been left-handed pitching, but I hope getting Pham back and possibly Campusano as a situational DH, may help in those games. Looking forward to getting some momentum in these last 6 games and carrying it through deep into the playoffs.
Hope you mean "PH"... Campusano (or Ona, or Mejia) not going to RH DH over Pham.
Personally, I think it's ludicrous to consider Campusano here: He has 1 game MLB DH with the HR & 2 K's. Ask yourself: if he had K'ed, grounded out, or even flied out to the warning track that 3rd AB... and debuted 0-3 with 2-3 K's, would his name even come up as a possibility, or are we putting too much weight on a great debut/1st hit=HR? Really same thing with Ona; they were both injury driven callups who really aren't seasoned anywhere close to enough for the playoffs.
Only have those 3 above & Greg Allen as possible 14th position player. I can't see Allen going in defensively over any of the 3 starters in a close game, so he's likely off roster in wings as an injury replacement. That leaves Mejia. I hated him getting sent down right after coming off IL, but it was kind of forced by the SP minor injury skipped starts & RP's returning from IL. Silver lining is getting more AB’s in the controlled environment @ Alt site & maybe getting him “back” to where he can actually hit from Left side.
Given the exact weird circumstances of the playoff schedule this season, in the 3 game series I would prefer Mejia as my last/28th man on the roster over a 15th P (Altavilla). With being locked into our playoff seed before season ends, followed by 2 days off before, then 3-4 days off after the series, I just can’t envision a scenario where we would “need” that 15th P more than we MIGHT need Mejia for a big PH / C depth. Even if all 3 games went to pen early:
6 “SP’s”: incl G. Richards & Morejon (L) … that’s 2 per game!
8 RP’s: Rosenthal, Pomeranz (L), Pagan, A. Adams*, Strahm (L), Hill (L), P. Johnson, Stammen *if not healthy / “ready”: Altavilla
The 5 game & 7 game series with no Off days during, and only 1 off day between, I’d probably go with the 15th P over Mejia, but maybe a longer arm like Lucchesi?
Quote from fenn68 on September 22, 2020, 1:25 pmPham’s return really alters the strategy since he can hit RH and LH pitching ... and Profar has just been too important to now bench. The use of Moreland (who will be on the roster for LH bat) maybe limited unless he get hot in this last week.
Still a Mejia does make sense as a switch hitter (not sure who needs to get PH for) and catching insurance (injury). Drop the 15th pitcher for the 3 game set ... if the Padres need that 15 arm .... all is lost anyway. Of course will Mejia be fully healthy next week?
Mejia or Ona or Campusano ... even if activated ... probably will not see game play baring a real problem. So where do the place they most needed insurance policy?
Pham’s return really alters the strategy since he can hit RH and LH pitching ... and Profar has just been too important to now bench. The use of Moreland (who will be on the roster for LH bat) maybe limited unless he get hot in this last week.
Still a Mejia does make sense as a switch hitter (not sure who needs to get PH for) and catching insurance (injury). Drop the 15th pitcher for the 3 game set ... if the Padres need that 15 arm .... all is lost anyway. Of course will Mejia be fully healthy next week?
Mejia or Ona or Campusano ... even if activated ... probably will not see game play baring a real problem. So where do the place they most needed insurance policy?
Quote from Brian Connelly on September 22, 2020, 1:47 pmQuote from fenn68 on September 22, 2020, 1:25 pmPham’s return really alters the strategy since he can hit RH and LH pitching ... and Profar has just been too important to now bench. The use of Moreland (who will be on the roster for LH bat) maybe limited unless he get hot in this last week.
Still a Mejia does make sense as a switch hitter (not sure who needs to get PH for) and catching insurance (injury). Drop the 15th pitcher for the 3 game set ... if the Padres need that 15 arm .... all is lost anyway. Of course will Mejia be fully healthy next week?
Mejia or Ona or Campusano ... even if activated ... probably will not see game play baring a real problem. So where do the place they most needed insurance policy?
Agree it's possible Pads start Pham > Moreland @ DH vs a RHP. Same likely true for Nola > Castro vs RHP. IF Mejia could hit LH, I could see him making a late game PH for Nola vs a RHP, with Castro then taking the field. But then no C on bench. Or jsut straight subbing for Nola vs RHP if we're down.... but again, only if he can "really" bat LH.
Also agree it's very likely it's 0 AB, 0 games played for the 14th position player. But I would trust Mejia in the field at his position if neccy > Campusano, and just can't see Ona in the field. Simply going with Mejia's much > experience off/def @ MLB.
Quote from fenn68 on September 22, 2020, 1:25 pmPham’s return really alters the strategy since he can hit RH and LH pitching ... and Profar has just been too important to now bench. The use of Moreland (who will be on the roster for LH bat) maybe limited unless he get hot in this last week.
Still a Mejia does make sense as a switch hitter (not sure who needs to get PH for) and catching insurance (injury). Drop the 15th pitcher for the 3 game set ... if the Padres need that 15 arm .... all is lost anyway. Of course will Mejia be fully healthy next week?
Mejia or Ona or Campusano ... even if activated ... probably will not see game play baring a real problem. So where do the place they most needed insurance policy?
Agree it's possible Pads start Pham > Moreland @ DH vs a RHP. Same likely true for Nola > Castro vs RHP. IF Mejia could hit LH, I could see him making a late game PH for Nola vs a RHP, with Castro then taking the field. But then no C on bench. Or jsut straight subbing for Nola vs RHP if we're down.... but again, only if he can "really" bat LH.
Also agree it's very likely it's 0 AB, 0 games played for the 14th position player. But I would trust Mejia in the field at his position if neccy > Campusano, and just can't see Ona in the field. Simply going with Mejia's much > experience off/def @ MLB.
Quote from Ben Davey on September 22, 2020, 5:29 pmWith Cro struggling (he has hit better recently) could definitely see Profar playing 2nd against LHP. vs RHP could see some combo of Profar/Pham/Moreland. If Moreland struggles that makes the decision easier with Moreland coming off the bench if we need a big hit late.
While none of our OF are bad, Profar and Pham have taken some interesting routes that have led to a few extra hits. (Again not bad, but mistakes). I could definitely see Profar or Pham getting a hit in the 8th. Allen comes in as the PR then play LF in the 9th.
Also because outside of the 8, Profar (9), Moreland (10), Castro (11), Garcia (12), and Mateo (13). IF we keep a 14th position player it will be for defnese as I cant see Ona, Mejia or someone else even getting a PH
I think it also depends if we can leave Guerra and/or Stammen off the postseason roster
With Cro struggling (he has hit better recently) could definitely see Profar playing 2nd against LHP. vs RHP could see some combo of Profar/Pham/Moreland. If Moreland struggles that makes the decision easier with Moreland coming off the bench if we need a big hit late.
While none of our OF are bad, Profar and Pham have taken some interesting routes that have led to a few extra hits. (Again not bad, but mistakes). I could definitely see Profar or Pham getting a hit in the 8th. Allen comes in as the PR then play LF in the 9th.
Also because outside of the 8, Profar (9), Moreland (10), Castro (11), Garcia (12), and Mateo (13). IF we keep a 14th position player it will be for defnese as I cant see Ona, Mejia or someone else even getting a PH
I think it also depends if we can leave Guerra and/or Stammen off the postseason roster
Quote from fenn68 on September 23, 2020, 6:27 pmPadres have announce Lamet and Paddack for the Friday doubleheader with SF. That would put Lamet on track for game #1 in the playoffs (Wed) with normal 4 day rest.
Then IF Clevinger is held out ... Paddack would be ready for game #2 (5 days rest) ... so Friday will be a BIG start for him and the Padres.
Guessing then they would start Davies on Sunday so he can pitch game #3 (Friday) of the playoffs on normal 4 day rest.
Clevinger becomes the wild card ... if the injury was just precautionary we COULD see him get another shot on SAT and if successful be ready on 4 days rest for game #2. Otherwise maybe he is just lagged to the second series (if healthy).
Padres have announce Lamet and Paddack for the Friday doubleheader with SF. That would put Lamet on track for game #1 in the playoffs (Wed) with normal 4 day rest.
Then IF Clevinger is held out ... Paddack would be ready for game #2 (5 days rest) ... so Friday will be a BIG start for him and the Padres.
Guessing then they would start Davies on Sunday so he can pitch game #3 (Friday) of the playoffs on normal 4 day rest.
Clevinger becomes the wild card ... if the injury was just precautionary we COULD see him get another shot on SAT and if successful be ready on 4 days rest for game #2. Otherwise maybe he is just lagged to the second series (if healthy).
Quote from Ben Davey on September 24, 2020, 12:30 amI am guessing you see Davies on Saturday to get him that extra day of rest. Paddack slots into game 2.
The hope would be Lamet wins Game 1. Paddack goes in Game 2. If he wins Davies can start the next series, if he loses Davies throws game 3.
Biggest question will be the severity of Clevingers injury. I think we can get past whoever the #5 seed is even without Clev. But dont think we can get passed the Dodgers without him. I think Lamet and Clev would do great against them and can get us the W. Davies is hit or miss (I think he can go 6 giving up 3 or 4 runs). Paddack I have 0 faith against LA. I'd trust Morejon over Paddack against LA
I am guessing you see Davies on Saturday to get him that extra day of rest. Paddack slots into game 2.
The hope would be Lamet wins Game 1. Paddack goes in Game 2. If he wins Davies can start the next series, if he loses Davies throws game 3.
Biggest question will be the severity of Clevingers injury. I think we can get past whoever the #5 seed is even without Clev. But dont think we can get passed the Dodgers without him. I think Lamet and Clev would do great against them and can get us the W. Davies is hit or miss (I think he can go 6 giving up 3 or 4 runs). Paddack I have 0 faith against LA. I'd trust Morejon over Paddack against LA
Quote from MrPadre19 on September 24, 2020, 5:04 amLuckily we have 8 days he can rest before we need to know....but only 6 until a decision needs to be made on his roster spot.
If he isn't going to pitch at all in the Post season we need to give his spot to another arm or bat,but if he is.....well we definitely need him.
I hope it is an easy decision either way as making the wrong one could be costly at a time when we cant afford any mistakes.
Luckily we have 8 days he can rest before we need to know....but only 6 until a decision needs to be made on his roster spot.
If he isn't going to pitch at all in the Post season we need to give his spot to another arm or bat,but if he is.....well we definitely need him.
I hope it is an easy decision either way as making the wrong one could be costly at a time when we cant afford any mistakes.




