Quote from fenn68 on May 30, 2020, 7:37 am

Quote from MrPadre19 on May 30, 2020, 4:46 am

Quote from JasonE135 on May 29, 2020, 11:54 pm

Max Meyer- 6'0",185 RHP FB:93-97 touches 100, still hits 98 in 9th in.  Luis Patino- 6'0",190 RHP FB:93-97 touches 99.                                         Both have great sliders. Patino's grades 60, Meyer's 70

So...Meyer may just work out as a starter. He maintains his FB speed all game. If the Padres take him at #8, it is because they believe he can be a starter. If their scouts believe in him I would love for us to get him.

If not him a plus left-handed bat is still a huge need for us. Yes, we need more power coming up since none of our top prospects have a lot, but far more importantly we need people who can actually hit the ball consistently. Mitchell, Hassell and Veen all have 60 grade bats. Walker has a 45 grade bat and is known to have holes in his swing. Yes he could improve and yes he has huge power but the last thing we need is another Renfroe. Let's take guys who we know can hit and hope maybe they can develop power later as the grow and mature.

 

I get it...but Walker is 17.

There aren’t too Many 17  year olds that already have a ML refined swing.

Its a lot easier to refine a swing than to teach size,strength and power.

I’m sure 8 is too high for Walker......but if we don’t get him with our 2nd pick I think we will regret taking a guy just because he’s left handed over him.

Ive been wrong before....like the time I thought I was wrong but I was really right.

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At #8 no, but Walker could be the best player available when the Padres get to their Competitive Balance Pick (#34ish).

Maybe they mirror last season when Abrams was #1 (top fight hitter / athlete) and then followed up with Means (power potential) ... both HS. Preller likes upside and will gamble.

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At this point it is very hard to predict how the 5 round draft and the reduce flexibility to pay HS kids over slot will impact the drafting strategy ... if a team really like a HS kid will they draft him higher so they have the money on slot to sign him away from college?  With only 5 picks, getting them ALL “correct” and signed is critical.

Should not be an issue with any of the early 1st round prospects but could be in play for some of the HS kids that are “sliding” past the 1st round. Has to be a lot of phone calls going on to get “agreement” on the needed money to sign a draftee before drafting them. Plus hope there are no late change of heart (see Kirsten Whitson and Jason Kipnis). Those phone calls may have a lot to do with taking (or not taking) a player and in what slot.

I expect that most teams will try to draft to get the best 5 picks they can ... try to ensure they salvage some ML talent but I guess if there is a really target in the Competitive Balance round or round #2 they could use some under slot signings for round #4 - 5 to get the signing ... that does significantly reduces the odds of finding any success out this this draft ... sort of a go big or go home. Given that non-drafted signings get virtually nothing to sign ... signing for a bit more in rounds 4-5 could leave a good amount on the table for over slot signings. Padres (and other teams) with “extra” picks have some advantage.

Expect to see some real head-scratcher picks across the draft.

 

Quote from fenn68 on May 30, 2020, 7:57 am

An interesting side show during the draft will be how the A’s approach the selections. The have a bonus allocation of $5.2MM for their picks ... but they just furloughed most of their employees and are stopping paying their minor leaguers. They saved less than $1MM on the minor league players. Most aggressive team in cost cutting.

Spending $5.2MM on unproven prospects while slashing their “family” of employees may make sense to ownership ... but not the loyal employees.

Would they “pass” on the draft? Would they only select “low cost options”? Would they draft as normal but just not sign anyone by offering low ball ... think that would get them some extra picks next draft?

(Note: Padres have $10.7MM in pool bonuses for their 6 picks ... but at least they will pay the minor league players through August, the normal end of the season, and are keeping all their baseball operations staff employees).

Quote from JasonE135 on May 31, 2020, 1:33 am

Quote from hoffy51 on May 30, 2020, 3:39 am

Any team that drafts him will need to feel comfortable with taking a player that high with Type 1 diabetes.

Believe it or not Brandon Morrow has Type 1 diabetes. Since the Padres had him for 2 years, I am sure they must have experience with it and have protocols in place. He can be every bit the athlete and player as anyone else, they just have to watch him.

Quote from WindsorUK on June 4, 2020, 6:12 am

When is the draft?

And if Veen is available, is he the pick?

Quote from MrPadre19 on June 4, 2020, 6:33 am

Quote from WindsorUK on June 4, 2020, 6:12 am

When is the draft?

And if Veen is available, is he the pick?

June 10th.

And Veen is highly likely....but so is Hassell and Meyer depending on what happens ahead of us.

Or so is the thought.

I'm hoping Jordan falls to us in the 2nd round.

I also am very intrigued by Ed Howard....High school shortstop.

I believe we should take the highest upside player at #8 even if he isn't rated that high by "everyone else".

My fear is we "play it safe" and take one of the guys ranked in the top 10 and a guy like Howard or Jordan become perennial superstars for someone else.

That's the story every Draft though.....I realize that.

We just need to really hit on our picks over the next few years to continue to load up the system for our newly opened window soon approaching.

 

 

Quote from fenn68 on June 4, 2020, 7:14 am

Getting the sense that the Padres will have the pick of some highly rated high upside HS picks at #8 as the "better" / safer College types go early.

Preller generally likes high upside but does have to play the board as it plays out and needs to factor in some sense of probability as to the specific option he selects. At all costs avoid those incredible 5 tool talent potential prospects that will be a super stars ... if they learn to make contact (see Gettys types that litter the minor leagues).

My view has been to first identify the prospects with the best hitting skills then out of that limited group sort to maximize the remaining skills for the projected position.

Sort of the reason I like Hassell over Veen ... Hassell is considered the best "hitter" even if Veen has some superior secondary skills but does have some of the worrisome "swing and miss" tendencies ... correctible? Maybe but that is usually more hope than reality. At #8, got to get it right. Take those gambles with the Compensation Pick or a later pick.

 

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on June 4, 2020, 2:05 pm

Quote from fenn68 on June 4, 2020, 7:14 am

Getting the sense that the Padres will have the pick of some highly rated high upside HS picks at #8 as the "better" / safer College types go early.

Preller generally likes high upside but does have to play the board as it plays out and needs to factor in some sense of probability as to the specific option he selects. At all costs avoid those incredible 5 tool talent potential prospects that will be a super stars ... if they learn to make contact (see Gettys types that litter the minor leagues).

My view has been to first identify the prospects with the best hitting skills then out of that limited group sort to maximize the remaining skills for the projected position.

Sort of the reason I like Hassell over Veen ... Hassell is considered the best "hitter" even if Veen has some superior secondary skills but does have some of the worrisome "swing and miss" tendencies ... correctible? Maybe but that is usually more hope than reality. At #8, got to get it right. Take those gambles with the Compensation Pick or a later pick.

 

 

I agree with this.

Take the risk anywhere but the first pick.

Like my guy Jordan.....I understand he isn't a "pure" hitter so more risky....but his size/power/arm make him intriguing "if" you can get him after the first round.

 

Quote from fenn68 on June 4, 2020, 2:35 pm

It will be interesting who among these prospects remain in the draft if they are not projected as a #1 pick. Noticed that at least one HS and one College player have pulled their names for the draft. Both were, I believe, in the top 200.

Two factors seem to be stirring up the debate ... the bonus values did not increase; and more significantly, the payout is minimal in 2020 and the remainder is paid in 2021 and 2022. Some may see waiting a year gets them more bonus money paid immediately. Not as though they lose any minor league development in 2020 and for HS kids, JC is an option.

Going to be a very confusing draft (from a fans' perspective).

Quote from fenn68 on June 5, 2020, 2:11 pm

On MLB.com Mayo had a new mock draft on Thursday. Padres select Zac Veen (LHH HS OF) who drops to them.

Meyer, the College pitcher, and linked to the Padres went before the Padres pick. Others linked to the Padres that Mayo thinks they by-pass are Hassell (went 10th), Mitchell (went 16th), and Abel (HS pitcher went 17th).

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Another piece ranked the top power hitters in this draft ... Veen was ranked as #7 power hitter which is appealing considering his hit skill is rated 60 (one of the better).

Note that Jordan Walker (HS, 3B) was rated the 6th best power hitter but was not taken in the mock 1st round (some concern about his commitment to attend Duke). So, MrPadre19 ... he may be there for the Padres with their Comp pick ... #34 I think. If the Padres get Veen at #8 ...taking the upside on Walker might fit the Preller profile.