Quote from MrPadre19 on October 5, 2018, 12:56 pm

I like Choo and his OBP but he will be 37 during next season and only plays corner OF.

I doubt Preller would make such a move.

 

Quote from fenn68 on October 6, 2018, 10:31 am

Quote from David Nevin on October 5, 2018, 12:56 pm

I like Choo and his OBP but he will be 37 during next season and only plays corner OF.

I doubt Preller would make such a move.

 

Actually more of a former RF who now is mostly a DH in Texas ... RF if needed. Padres (for 2019) need to stay away from any of the old guys and play prospects.

Quote from fenn68 on October 6, 2018, 10:42 am

Quote from David Jay on October 4, 2018, 12:18 pm

Quote from fenn68 on October 4, 2018, 8:20 am

Time to do Preller's job and get a 3B prospect. Target Austin Riley (21) and MLB #43 (#3 3B prospect) .... 291 AB in AAA (282/246/464) ... upside power (RHH) but high K% and OK defense with a big arm for 3B .... considering he is 21 in AAA the potential for development is there.

Why would Atlanta consider dealing him? Last season was a breakout for their 3B Johan Camargo (24) a switch hitter with 5 more years of control and in 464 AB in the ML hit 272/349/452 provides a strong block. With Freeman at 1B ... not going there.

Likely Atlanta as NL East champs will want to continue ... they are losing some FA (and saving money with a basically young team) most likely Markakis who at 35 next season is not a long term but should require a hefty contract to return ... will not return. (good chance Markakis' 2019 deal would be more expensive than Myers' 2019 and clearly Renfroe's both with a longer team control.) Braves do not have a near term OF prospect ready to step up ... Duvall is not it. Add that if Philadelphia (they made a run in 2019 and have a bundle of money to target Harper or Machado ... or both ... sign one or both, then Atlanta is more motived to move.

Preller offers a "pick him" between Renfroe (strong SLG but only a 1/2 year positive results higher risk) or Myers (better track record with a consistent .790 OPS so a "safer offensive bet" offset by a 4 year $70MM contract.)

On the surface it would seem Renfroe for Riley would be a match .... some level of ML success in Renfroe (plus low cost with control) for a PROSPECT who has not even had a full AAA season but with upside.

Fair chance they would prefer Myers ... a better sense of what kind of output they would get which may be important for a contender. Maybe an established MLer for a prospect works. If necessary, Padres "eat" some contract or add a second piece (Braves may need some new blood in the pen).

 

If the Braves front office decides Camargo is their long-term choice over Riley, they should all be fired immediately, even if they win the World Series between now and then.

Shouldn't it be more about what they get back for Riley (or Camargo) than who is better long term? Braves are set-up to win in the NL EAST for sometime and bypassing anyone who would cement that  position (especially if PHIL goes gangbusters and spends) ... then lose out ... might also be candidate for termination.

However, doubt they deal either one ... Camargo is in the ML and producing and Riley (if he continues to develop) has only 1/2 season in AAA so may not be yet ready to contribute to a ML contender. Braves have a lot of top pitching prospects ... everyone wants top pitching prospects ... so if they perceive a need at the ML level to continue to contend, they have the arms to go someone (but probably not from the Padres).

Quote from fenn68 on October 6, 2018, 11:00 am

Since I am in perpetual search for an upgrade at 3B over Myers, Villanueva, and Spangenberg but don't want an over paid, old, broken-down veteran ... need a different tact since quality young 3B prospects that are ML ready are not in abundance (if any other than Riley).

So, Padres seem to like the potential of Potts (but not likely around until 2021), so they give a bit on upside and move on with a good but not long term player. Then add the voiced desire to add OBP and maybe leave the "power" in the hands of Renfroe, Reyes, Hedges / Mejia, Hosmer, and at some point Tatis.

Enter Yandy Diaz (Cleveland), 27 year old RHH 3B blocked by Ramirez. No real power, so-so defensively, and maybe age 27 is a concern (but an older international signing out of Cuba that started stateside in 2014 so not that concerning). So why him .... OBP. In his 265 ML AB he has put up a .361 OBP and in his minor league career .413.

He would not cost a lot from Cleveland given he is blocked ... Cleveland will be looking for RP and RHH OF which is something the Padres can offer. Add that Cleveland has some decent minor league prospects and with their pending FA some payroll room ... a lot of ways the two teams could match up with Diaz coming to SD solo or as part of a package.

Quote from fenn68 on October 9, 2018, 12:09 pm

Per MLBTradeRumors and their arbitration result projections:

Padres (7)

• Kirby Yates – $3.0MM
• Cory Spangenberg – $2.3MM
• Austin Hedges – $1.8MM
• Travis Jankowski – $1.4MM
• Bryan Mitchell – $1.2MM
• Robbie Erlin – $1.1MM
• Alex Dickerson – $700K

Would not be a big impact on the payroll if they all remained .... good chance they all will not. If kept, Yates and Hedges seem like a very good deal.

Quote from sportwarrior on October 9, 2018, 1:44 pm

I fully expect Dickerson to be an unfortunate yet necessary roster casualty. Spangey's projection is a little high, I think, but he and Janky probably still stick around for one more season unless a trade comes up that makes sense. Mitchell will get another shot at the rotation and Robbie Erlin is a valuable swing man for a rotation/bullpen that is still in flux.

Quote from LynchMob on October 9, 2018, 2:13 pm

In my dream world, someone on Padres reads this and figures out how to get a player who can do what JD has done ...

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/j-d-martinez-is-always-one-step-ahead/

In other words, it's not just JD that's "one step ahead" ... it seems like, in this case, it's also the Red Sox front office ... with the caveat that the Astro's front office sure seems to be "one step ahead" and yet they missed on this step ... so ... it's not as simple as one might think ... just sayin' that I'm looking forward to the Padres figuring out how to get "one step ahead" ... some how ... some way ... some time ...

GO!

Quote from Booster SD on October 11, 2018, 12:25 pm

So reading MLBTR, the Reds are attempting to move Senzel to the OF with the extension of Suarez and possible extension of Gennett. What would SD have to do to pry Senzel out of CIN. What are they in the need of in CIN. OF, INF, Catcher? Obviously needs pitching, not that we have a lot of options to trade without harming us. Anyway SD eats enough money and the right prospects to work a Myers Senzel based trade?

Quote from fenn68 on October 11, 2018, 1:40 pm

Quote from Booster SD on October 11, 2018, 12:25 pm

So reading MLBTR, the Reds are attempting to move Senzel to the OF with the extension of Suarez and possible extension of Gennett. What would SD have to do to pry Senzel out of CIN. What are they in the need of in CIN. OF, INF, Catcher? Obviously needs pitching, not that we have a lot of options to trade without harming us. Anyway SD eats enough money and the right prospects to work a Myers Senzel based trade?

That would be a tough one to pull off. Consider CINN is a bad team that will be sitting behind MILW and the CUBS ... and even inferior to StL and PITT for years to come with an extremely low probability to even sniff Wild Card status IF they would even consider moving Senzel (who is an elite prospect) the return would likely have to be at least one elite prospect (meaning near Top 25 MLB) plus an additional top flight prospect. It only makes sense for them if they get bodies for the long run.

But IF they would consider such a move ... have to deal catcher / pitcher talent since they are at least OK in the OF/INF. (CINN would not deal Senzel for Myers even if the Padres ate his entire salary ... Senzel arguable better now even without being in the ML).

Consider Senzel (23) ... drafted #2 overall in 2016 ... hit .310 in an injury shortened season in AAA (second full season) ... MLB has his as the #6 overall prospect / #2 3B with and overall grade of "60" and a "70" hit skill. As a prospect this guy is elite.

So, what would (could potentially) match-up:

Mejia (22) would fill a catcher need ... MLB his him as the #26 prospect / # 2 catching prospect. (but that is not enough by far) ... so need a legit pitching prospect (or two) balance this out.

Paddack (#35), Morejon (#46), Baez (#57), or Allen (#76) would like be in the "ask" negotiation. Since the Padres need arms guessing Paddack would be off the board, Morejon is probably too far out, so default to one of Baez or Allen (CINN's choice) and then back that up with a next tier fill arm (e.g. Avila).

MIGHT work but prospect for prospect deals are really rare. Worth a call by Preller to see if he could land an elite 3B who hit and field for the next 6 years.