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Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 11:38 amQuote from Henry Silvestre on July 23, 2022, 10:11 am
- Speaking of Luis Garcia..I found it curious Nick Mart set up role last night (new role).8th... instead of Luis..is Luis being moved...or is AJP showcasing Nick Mart's Flexibility???
Or is BoMel simply smarter than all of us and gaining a better understanding on what Nick can do
Guess it was because of a big lead and wanting Martinez if they wanted to go multiple innings with him ... saving a pen arm for the weekend. Might also be the match-ups Melvin saw and Martinez's stuff (lots of breaking balls / off speed) had a better chance than Garcia's power pitches.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on July 23, 2022, 10:11 am
- Speaking of Luis Garcia..I found it curious Nick Mart set up role last night (new role).8th... instead of Luis..is Luis being moved...or is AJP showcasing Nick Mart's Flexibility???
Or is BoMel simply smarter than all of us and gaining a better understanding on what Nick can do
Guess it was because of a big lead and wanting Martinez if they wanted to go multiple innings with him ... saving a pen arm for the weekend. Might also be the match-ups Melvin saw and Martinez's stuff (lots of breaking balls / off speed) had a better chance than Garcia's power pitches.
Quote from WindsorUK on July 23, 2022, 11:44 amQuote from Henry Silvestre on July 22, 2022, 7:55 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 6:45 pmToronto puts up another 11 in the 5th … now leading 25-3 IN BOSTON.
Fans, media, talk shows are going to be out of control tomorrow (if not now). Plus Eovoid I started and got hammered.
27-4... Sox have been terrible for like a month now .. they need to blow it up...
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Everyone we've been trying to trade get rid of came up BIG today...Hosmer ..Grishman ... Voit...Nola ...LoL...
Something to keep in mind..Hosmer OWNS Max now career .315 vs him in over 50ABS with 3 HRs...we could be facing him in the offseason... YU is 5-0 at Mets now...
Good stuff Henry!
Quote from Henry Silvestre on July 22, 2022, 7:55 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 6:45 pmToronto puts up another 11 in the 5th … now leading 25-3 IN BOSTON.
Fans, media, talk shows are going to be out of control tomorrow (if not now). Plus Eovoid I started and got hammered.
27-4... Sox have been terrible for like a month now .. they need to blow it up...
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Everyone we've been trying to trade get rid of came up BIG today...Hosmer ..Grishman ... Voit...Nola ...LoL...
Something to keep in mind..Hosmer OWNS Max now career .315 vs him in over 50ABS with 3 HRs...we could be facing him in the offseason... YU is 5-0 at Mets now...
Good stuff Henry!
Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 11:52 amHard to guess the order of adding fresh bodies but looking as though:
- Myers returns for the homestead next Friday ... Batten optioned ... Stammen to 60 day IL
- Trade Deadline transaction ... 26 man add and Ruiz or Abrams down (depending on the position of the add) unless a 26 man player is dealt
- Tatis returns after Aug 2 ... then Abrams (if still around) optioned.
Hard for me to see Abrams or Ruiz dealt for a "rental" or even someone with one more year control ... more likely package of minor leaguers. Think they may be in deals for the likes of Reynolds or Soto with longer control and impact bats.
Still Batten, Abrams, Ruiz make room for Myers, Tatis, and a PTNL ... so not a big issue other than sequencing.
Pitching is a different question with all the arms that could return at or after the deadline and some potential upgrades sitting in AAA.
Hard to guess the order of adding fresh bodies but looking as though:
- Myers returns for the homestead next Friday ... Batten optioned ... Stammen to 60 day IL
- Trade Deadline transaction ... 26 man add and Ruiz or Abrams down (depending on the position of the add) unless a 26 man player is dealt
- Tatis returns after Aug 2 ... then Abrams (if still around) optioned.
Hard for me to see Abrams or Ruiz dealt for a "rental" or even someone with one more year control ... more likely package of minor leaguers. Think they may be in deals for the likes of Reynolds or Soto with longer control and impact bats.
Still Batten, Abrams, Ruiz make room for Myers, Tatis, and a PTNL ... so not a big issue other than sequencing.
Pitching is a different question with all the arms that could return at or after the deadline and some potential upgrades sitting in AAA.
Quote from MrPadre19 on July 23, 2022, 11:54 amQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on July 23, 2022, 12:04 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 23, 2022, 11:54 amQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Yeah if Soto comes to SDP and we Win ONE or more WS
And the players we trade win 2 CY awards and 2 MVPs ..it would still be worth it... 53 yrs and counting....
Quote from MrPadre19 on July 23, 2022, 11:54 amQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Yeah if Soto comes to SDP and we Win ONE or more WS
And the players we trade win 2 CY awards and 2 MVPs ..it would still be worth it... 53 yrs and counting....
Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 12:25 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 23, 2022, 11:54 amQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Ask in 5 years
Quote from MrPadre19 on July 23, 2022, 11:54 amQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Ask in 5 years
Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 12:45 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on July 23, 2022, 12:04 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 23, 2022, 11:54 amQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Yeah if Soto comes to SDP and we Win ONE or more WS
And the players we trade win 2 CY awards and 2 MVPs ..it would still be worth it... 53 yrs and counting....
Or if Soto remains a perennial all-star and the Padres become a .500 team because they neither have the low cost prospects nor the CBT space to add quality around Soto, Tatis, and Machado ... then Soto walks in two years to play for the LAD for $45MM/yr.
Justin Upton ... Matt Kemp .... James Shields ... Derek Norris ... Wil Myers ... Craig Kimbrel ... Andrew Cashner made 2015 a lock for a World Series. Oops!
Soto is great but only one very expensive player as are Machado and Tatis. They may shine but the other 23 have a better chance to thrust the Padres into the dark and a string of losing seasons.
Quote from Henry Silvestre on July 23, 2022, 12:04 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 23, 2022, 11:54 amQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 9:22 amQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 8:24 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 22, 2022, 2:15 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on July 22, 2022, 1:14 pm
From CBS Sports.
See the last part.
Also,does AJ have any more sense of urgency to keep Soto from the Dodgers(Division rival) and the Cards(Wildcard rival).
every time the thought of a deal to keep someone away from another team ... my thoughts drift back to .......... RANDY MYERS ... and the disaster that was for years.
I think it’s safe to say that Juan Soto isn’t Randy Myers.
Not the player … but “paying extra” to block a player to another team does.
Never ever want to “pay extra”.
But when/if a deal comes for Soto who’s to say if it was the right amount or too much?
It’s gonna be so huge either way.
Yeah if Soto comes to SDP and we Win ONE or more WS
And the players we trade win 2 CY awards and 2 MVPs ..it would still be worth it... 53 yrs and counting....
Or if Soto remains a perennial all-star and the Padres become a .500 team because they neither have the low cost prospects nor the CBT space to add quality around Soto, Tatis, and Machado ... then Soto walks in two years to play for the LAD for $45MM/yr.
Justin Upton ... Matt Kemp .... James Shields ... Derek Norris ... Wil Myers ... Craig Kimbrel ... Andrew Cashner made 2015 a lock for a World Series. Oops!
Soto is great but only one very expensive player as are Machado and Tatis. They may shine but the other 23 have a better chance to thrust the Padres into the dark and a string of losing seasons.
Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 12:52 pmWell things are just getting worse for Boston ... a few days ago the IL Sale ... the just a horrible July ... now
The Red Sox have placed star third baseman Rafael Devers on the 10-day injured list with right hamstring inflammation, per the team. In terms of corresponding moves, outfielder Jaylin Davis was promoted from Triple-A, and Enrique Hernandez was transferred to the 60-day injured list.
We know hamstrings can last a lot longer than 10 days.
IF there was any question about BOST being a buyer or seller ... think SELLER is the answer.
Preller on the phone again?
Well things are just getting worse for Boston ... a few days ago the IL Sale ... the just a horrible July ... now
The Red Sox have placed star third baseman Rafael Devers on the 10-day injured list with right hamstring inflammation, per the team. In terms of corresponding moves, outfielder Jaylin Davis was promoted from Triple-A, and Enrique Hernandez was transferred to the 60-day injured list.
We know hamstrings can last a lot longer than 10 days.
IF there was any question about BOST being a buyer or seller ... think SELLER is the answer.
Preller on the phone again?
Quote from Henry Silvestre on July 23, 2022, 1:34 pmQuote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 12:52 pmWell things are just getting worse for Boston ... a few days ago the IL Sale ... the just a horrible July ... now
The Red Sox have placed star third baseman Rafael Devers on the 10-day injured list with right hamstring inflammation, per the team. In terms of corresponding moves, outfielder Jaylin Davis was promoted from Triple-A, and Enrique Hernandez was transferred to the 60-day injured list.
We know hamstrings can last a lot longer than 10 days.
IF there was any question about BOST being a buyer or seller ... think SELLER is the answer.
Preller on the phone again?
Xander please
Quote from fenn68 on July 23, 2022, 12:52 pmWell things are just getting worse for Boston ... a few days ago the IL Sale ... the just a horrible July ... now
The Red Sox have placed star third baseman Rafael Devers on the 10-day injured list with right hamstring inflammation, per the team. In terms of corresponding moves, outfielder Jaylin Davis was promoted from Triple-A, and Enrique Hernandez was transferred to the 60-day injured list.
We know hamstrings can last a lot longer than 10 days.
IF there was any question about BOST being a buyer or seller ... think SELLER is the answer.
Preller on the phone again?
Xander please
Quote from Henry Silvestre on July 23, 2022, 1:54 pmAccording to sources, the Padres have discussed the idea of adding both of the Cubs’ All-Stars — catcher Willson Contreras and outfielder Ian Happ — to their lineup
According to sources, the Padres have discussed the idea of adding both of the Cubs’ All-Stars — catcher Willson Contreras and outfielder Ian Happ — to their lineup




