Quote from fenn68 on August 2, 2022, 10:33 am

Quote from BoosterSD on August 2, 2022, 10:25 am

Quote from fenn68 on August 2, 2022, 10:24 am

Preller almost has to "overpay" at this point to move Hosmer to another team ... all the other GM knows the box Hosmer's veto caused.

Can (will) Siedler OK a large over CBT payroll ... and not sure but Soto+Bell would have been larger than Hosmer and they were already over ... so might be over with either scenario.

Can the the team live with Hosmer remaining on the team ... with the deal of maybe Myers / Voit going to create space. Guessing yes given the love for Hosmer in the clubhouse.

A lot of ways this can go. Put the money aside ... the deal still put the Padres in a great 2022 position ... and that transcends all.

Basically, SD will have $46.5M tied up into 3 DH/PHs, between Myers, Hosmer, and Voit.

Might want to add Bell's $10MM to have $56.5MM tied up with 4 DH/1B ... for now.

Something has to give.

Quote from TucsonClip on August 2, 2022, 10:46 am

https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1554522928955490304

Quote from fenn68 on August 2, 2022, 10:50 am

Does sound as though Preller and Rizzo were well aware that Hosmer may say no and negotiated essentially two options (no idea if that means another tweak is coming in the rest of the deal).

Most seem to expect Preller ... as we speak ... is trying to move Hosmer to one of the 19 not in the no trade clause or someone on the list that Hosmer wants to go to now.

Preller probably has the groundwork in place ... since might not have been a surprise.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 2, 2022, 10:56 am

I think we get Contreras next

Quote from fenn68 on August 2, 2022, 10:57 am

Listen to a WASH reporter on Soto and Bell. We know the talent but he was given high praise to both for both their work ethic, clubhouse value, and community involvement (a bonus given Siedler's desire for good character).

However, he did say Bell is a DH ... not a 1B (poor defensively) and does clog up the base paths. But the kid can hit.

Quote from fenn68 on August 2, 2022, 11:03 am

Just to keep money in focus ... adding Soto and Bell add (on an annual basis) $27MM or about $9MM for 2022. With Hosmer still around and the Padres right at the CBT threshold before the deal ... they are about $9MM over.

Looks as though Siedler bought into exceed the CBT for the second year in a row.

Quote from BoosterSD on August 2, 2022, 11:03 am

Quote from fenn68 on August 2, 2022, 10:57 am

Listen to a WASH reporter on Soto and Bell. We know the talent but he was given high praise to both for both their work ethic, clubhouse value, and community involvement (a bonus given Siedler's desire for good character).

However, he did say Bell is a DH ... not a 1B (poor defensively) and does clog up the base paths. But the kid can hit.

Cant be any worse defensively than Hosmer, or any slower or worse than Voit on the bases.

So..............I will take the upgraded stick.

Quote from fenn68 on August 2, 2022, 11:19 am

Yes, Preller has been trying to move Hosmer for years and so have most fans. However, if at this point they can only move him by paying his full salary and give up a prospect ... what is the advantage and maybe a disadvantage.

In 2023 Myers is a FA, Bell is a FA seeking a mega contract, Voit better served being non-tendered than paying him $6+MM as a DH ... nothing left in the system to play 1B/DH on a contender ... and "dead money" dedicated to Hosmer.

Is Hosmer at 1B/DH ... given going to pay him anyway ... a better option than trying to sign a new 1B/DH.

Having said that ... I expect him to be move.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on August 2, 2022, 11:28 am

Hosmer to Boston