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#951 · December 10, 2019, 9:16 am
Quote from fenn68 on December 10, 2019, 6:42 amWould have thought that a good hitting team that needs a catcher would have drawn the same conclusion (e.g. HOU or LAA) and bid for Hedges ... not yet happened so either Preller's ask is unreasonable or other teams really don't have a high value on Hedges.
Padres have improved their offense ... but probably not enough carry a sub-.200 catcher other than as a "back-up". Nothing to support this thought .. but don't have the feeling that Hedges will be happy (or a positive force) in the "back-up" role.
Have heard rumors/talking heads debating on whether or not ANA should invest $35-40M a year in Cole, or split it up and sign two of three in Kuechel, Ryu, Bumgarner for about the same monies per year, but fill two spots in the rotation. IF ANA goes in that direction, they would then have lets say, Ryu, Kuechel, Otani, and Bundy plus Heaney. So maybe if they were to exchange Marsh for either Quantrill or Luchessi or even Davies, then they would be able to divert more funds and sign the top guy Cole versus two lesser pieces.
Is Cole better than a tandem of Ryu and Kuechel? Thinking MadBum wants to stay NL from what has been rumored.
#952 · December 10, 2019, 9:20 am
Quote from fenn68 on December 10, 2019, 8:24 amOn the other hand ... going to need the Padres to do some aggressive house cleaning of LHH prospects arriving near term ... Grisham, Naylor, Trammell, Cordero then add Marsh. With all that, could the Padres get better trade value via a different deal with Quantrill (or any other SP)?
Can you ever have too many LHH OFers, especially with a majority of the top Aces in the league being RHPs? And really, we all know that Naylor is not an OF, and Cordero has no history of health. So really, it would be Grisham, Trammell, and Marsh at that time fighting for playing time. Then if Cordero finally stays healthy, might be the best of them all, you can look into trading Marsh, Naylor, and Grisham down the road. Good problem to have, the same as it is a good problem to have of "too much" young SP.
#953 · December 10, 2019, 11:17 am
How about revisiting a trade with TEX, in where its is based around Myers and Hedges for Mazara. Then SD could sign Avisail Garcia and platoon him in RF with Mazara for around the $11M mark, about half of the price of Myers.
Myers would give TEX some RHH balance, rumor is the new park is still going to be hitter friendly, and he could slot in at 1B, LF, or RF based on where they need to fill a hole.
#954 · December 10, 2019, 12:43 pm
Mazara is just a body. We don’t need a body, we need quality. Besides which, an article that came out today on mlbtr says that the Rangers actually have a pretty high asking price for Mazara.
#955 · December 10, 2019, 1:00 pm
Quote from JasonE135 on December 10, 2019, 12:43 pmMazara is just a body. We don’t need a body, we need quality. Besides which, an article that came out today on mlbtr says that the Rangers actually have a pretty high asking price for Mazara.
Think the Padre have moved passed adding the Mazara type. Expected to get $5.7MM this year and only 2 years control ... bad defensively ... and Texas is not giving him away. Rather keep the talent needed to get him and see what Cordero and Naylor can do offensively (and will not be worse defensively).
#956 · December 10, 2019, 1:41 pm
At least Mazara has produced at the ML level. Cordero needs to stay healthy and Naylor needs to learn how to get his power into the game. I dont think that Naylor surpasses Mazara in production. If Cordero can stay healthy and puts it all together, he could be special. Two big IFs though.
#957 · December 10, 2019, 1:51 pm
I like the Marsh idea.
Added to Grisham it gives us two guys who "could" be steals if they hit.
Looking at the Angels depth chart in the outfield of course they have Trout...and Adell should get his shot this year.
They have Upton and Goodwin...who had a bit of a breakout season last year.
So thinking they could use Marsh to add a pitcher if they need too.
Their rotation...even adding Ohtani back in is looking pretty sparse....Patrick Sandoval and Jamie Barria to go along with Heaney and Bundy to go along with Griffin Canning?
So if they add Rendon and bring up Adell you could sure see them wanting to upgrade their rotation and with paying Trout and Rendon(if they add him) you would think they wouldn't be in on guys like Bumgarner and Ryu even.
#958 · December 10, 2019, 1:58 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 1:51 pmSo if they add Rendon and bring up Adell you could sure see them wanting to upgrade their rotation and with paying Trout and Rendon(if they add him) you would think they wouldn't be in on guys like Bumgarner and Ryu even.
Yes, if they choose to add Rendon over Cole, Ryu, Bumgarner then they should be pushing the max payroll because of the Trout and Pujols contracts. Then inexpensive SP contracts should become real attractive to them.
But WOW. Trout and Rendon in the same line up. Thats two great hitters.
#959 · December 10, 2019, 2:20 pm
I'm thinking they'll get one of them but i just don't see the Yankees being denied.
So I'm guessing Rendon goes to LA.
But thinking more on it I don't know what starter we would give them that they would think would be enough of an upgrade that would get us Marsh?
Maybe a Quantrill + prospect for Marsh type deal?
How highly regarded is Marsh?
His numbers are pretty impressive.
#960 · December 10, 2019, 2:46 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on December 10, 2019, 2:20 pmI'm thinking they'll get one of them but i just don't see the Yankees being denied.
So I'm guessing Rendon goes to LA.
But thinking more on it I don't know what starter we would give them that they would think would be enough of an upgrade that would get us Marsh?
Maybe a Quantrill + prospect for Marsh type deal?
How highly regarded is Marsh?
His numbers are pretty impressive.
Marsh has been a good prospect but has jumped up a bit with a very good AA season ... may (should) get into the Top 100 in the next MLBPipeline update. So what is fair value for a Top 100 (probably lower half) out of AA (maybe or maybe not ML ready).
Then who else would be bidding for him dangling ML quality SP? Keep in mind the need for ML SP probably make the market for SP pretty competitive.
If Angels have gone "all in" with that offense ... doubt they can resist dealing him for a ML SP upgrade ... if they keep him he is a bench guy in a year or so at best for them.
Quantrill is probably a good base. He is ML ready and based on 2019 looked better than some of his minor league numbers and not that long ago he was a Top 100 prospect. 6 year control (like Marsh) and at league minimum. Risk with both on future development. Padres have "excess" pitching prospects while LAA has a crowded OF.
Probably a closer match than some may think.