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Myers, Hedges and 10 million to the Rangers for Choo. Word is that the Rangers want to move Gallo to RF and Calhoun has LF locked up. They also have Mazara for depth and Santana played really well for them bouncing all over the place. Choo is set to make 21 million which is a lot if he's strictly going to be a DH for them and they could probably bring Pence back for a lot less. Wil would be an upgrade over Guzman at 1st. Mathis was even worse than Hedges offensively and his defense isn't nearly as good.

Choo gives us the lefty bat we're looking for and we save 29 million going forward.

How about something less of a headline making trade but could be possible and still greatly help our team; Bryan Reynolds from Pittsburgh. He is a switch-hitting left fielder who put up a .316/.377 16hr line this year. This being his rookie season he has tons of control. He absolutely murders right handers, but he also hit .264 against lefties. So he is effective against both. Now, they built him up in Pittsburgh, made a big deal about him vying for the batting title. He wouldn't come free. But he is not a star. Mlb has among the Pirates top 5 needs power and pitching. They need protection in the lineup for Bell. Renfroe could fit that need. Pitt had the 2nd highest team BA this year, so they could afford his deficiencies there. If Renfroe was really injured he could put up 40HR next year. In LF he would give them gold glove caliber defense and a cannon arm. Could be a match made in heaven. We may have to include a pitcher or two, but nobody really big. Probably Laur, Lucchesie types. With his 5-6 more years of control, he could give us another piece to build around, can hit right-handers and would be cheap (in money), so we could still upgrade in other places. It would also put Myers in RF and let him just settle there and rotate with the left-handers.

Quote from WindsorUK on October 1, 2019, 3:14 pm

Reckon the Tribe would accept Patino as a center piece for Lindor?

I don't know what else Cleveland needs but 2 or 3 other pieces might get them interested?

I personally have no interest in rentals but if anyone has the pieces to get a Lindor, it is us.

I would imagine Pitt is going to be gun shy dealing away young talent after that Meadows, Glasnow deal. Pitt I think will be looking to build around a guy like Reynolds by shipping off vets for prospects. I’m happy the Giants shipped him to Pitt, kid looks legit.

A LHH OF who has been on my mind is Eddie Rosario from the Twins. He’s 27, under team control for 3 years and hit .276 with 32 bombs. They have Buxton, Kepler, Cave, Marwin as capable ML OFs. They have multiple young OFs coming up in the next year or two. Kiroloff is one of best young hitters in minors and could be ready by next year. They have some key guys hitting FA  (Odorizzi and Jason Castro)so maybe a package of Hedges, Potts, Lauer and Cantillo would get it done?

Quote from TatisJr on October 1, 2019, 4:18 pm

A LHH OF who has been on my mind is Eddie Rosario from the Twins. He’s 27, under team control for 3 years and hit .276 with 32 bombs. They have Buxton, Kepler, Cave, Marwin as capable ML OFs. They have multiple young OFs coming up in the next year or two. Kiroloff is one of best young hitters in minors and could be ready by next year. They have some key guys hitting FA  (Odorizzi and Jason Castro)so maybe a package of Hedges, Potts, Lauer and Cantillo would get it done?

Unfortunately he had a flat .300 OBP this year.  That is basically what he averages every year. That just makes him a left-handed Renfroe.

Quote from JasonE135 on October 1, 2019, 3:37 pm

How about something less of a headline making trade but could be possible and still greatly help our team; Bryan Reynolds from Pittsburgh. He is a switch-hitting left fielder who put up a .316/.377 16hr line this year. This being his rookie season he has tons of control. He absolutely murders right handers, but he also hit .264 against lefties. So he is effective against both. Now, they built him up in Pittsburgh, made a big deal about him vying for the batting title. He wouldn't come free. But he is not a star. Mlb has among the Pirates top 5 needs power and pitching. They need protection in the lineup for Bell. Renfroe could fit that need. Pitt had the 2nd highest team BA this year, so they could afford his deficiencies there. If Renfroe was really injured he could put up 40HR next year. In LF he would give them gold glove caliber defense and a cannon arm. Could be a match made in heaven. We may have to include a pitcher or two, but nobody really big. Probably Laur, Lucchesie types. With his 5-6 more years of control, he could give us another piece to build around, can hit right-handers and would be cheap (in money), so we could still upgrade in other places. It would also put Myers in RF and let him just settle there and rotate with the left-handers.

I’m afraid Pitt would have no reason to trade Reynolds.

He’s exactly the kind of player they want......and trade away just as he starts getting expensive.

 

Would love to get Dahl somehow.

Unfortunately we would probably have to overpay to get them to trade in the Division plus his away splits are pretty uninspiring.

In almost the exact same number of AB’s he only hit .254/.302/449 away from Coors.

While hitting .349/402/.598 at home!

😳

P.S.....last year was just as bad or worse.

Quote from TatisJr on October 1, 2019, 3:53 pm

I would imagine Pitt is going to be gun shy dealing away young talent after that Meadows, Glasnow deal. Pitt I think will be looking to build around a guy like Reynolds by shipping off vets for prospects. I’m happy the Giants shipped him to Pitt, kid looks legit.

Both guys ended up missing time due to injury and still that trade will go down as one of the worst ever.

Just imagine if they both stay healthy all next season for TB.

The Rays just keep pulling off genius moves and signings.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 1, 2019, 2:38 pm
Quote from fenn68 on October 1, 2019, 2:02 pm

Myers for Price is not out of the question: Myers (29, 3 years at $20MM per) v. Price (34, 3 years at $32MM per).

Both have under played their contracts and Myers is not the All-Star as expected and Price has not pitched like a #1 consistently.

Would the Padres want to use the additional $12MM to get Price (and maybe little else) then sit with an OF of ????? Would the Red Sox want to get greater salary relief and try to move Price for peanuts but eating maybe $10MM/year thus netting a $22MM savings vs. $12MM with the Myers trade? If Myers is worth peanuts at $20MM ... Boston getting peanuts at $10MM makes more sense to Boston.

I guess a factor is whether Martinez opts out ... would save a lot for Boston but at the same time create a RHH hole in the line-up.

I would put Boston dealing Benintendi a real long shot ... he is good and cheap which is exactly what the want. Two position players will really explore moving are Bradley (CF) and even Betts (RF). Bradley will be around $10MM in his last season and way under performing for that salary (maybe a DFA). Betts will be getting BIG money via arbitration ($25-30MM, at $20MM now) and only 2 years control ... has big trade value ... will not sign an extension. IF Boston must get under the luxury limit for 2020 and as a result not realistically compete in 2020 ... might really build for the future and move on from Betts.

My guess is that Boston needs to get under the luxury tax in 2020 to reset the penalty level ... not a cash flow issue. So, could go back over in 2021 if needed and who knows post the new CBA negotiations. Maybe that point them to move the bigger contracts with only one or two year control as they in 2021 re-arm for 2022 and beyond.

Why not expand this to Price + Benintendi for Myers + Joey Fuego + Naylor

We get a lefty high OBP  bat with some upside .. We get Price who improves P... Sox save $12 mil per x3.. They get a replacement SP for at least Porcello with better production projection than Porcello 2019... And they get Naylor who can be a terrific DH/OF/1B option for Sox and protects them in case JDM leaves.. Naylor > Benintendi as a hitter (ceiling) Benintendi better overall OFer..more suited for NL...

 

Also I believe Benintendi arb 1... Vs Naylor minimum ...so there is another $3-$5 mil in savings for Sox

This is what I was getting at.

Myers plus whatever it would take(and fair) to get Price and Benintendi.

If we want to move Myers we’re gonna have to either pay most of his salary “or” take on another bad contract.

May as well make it a guy who could fit into the rotation or improve the OF offense.

This could do both.