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I think people are here are dying so badly for some action that they are just trying to make up stuff that will never happen just to get them through it.

I would personally be okay with Torrens backing up Mejia. He has shown enough to at least be seen as a solid backup. In other organizations, he might be in the running for the starting job.

I myself personally think that we should keep Hedges for his last 3 years. I don't think we can get anything more valuable than the high-upside flyer that Ben Davey and fenn68 are suggesting. While that could turn out eventually, I think he has more value to us helping with all of the dynamic young arms coming up. He knows how to work with pitchers, he can prevent steals and there is nobody better at blocking balls in the dirt or out of the strike zone than he is. That comfort he can provide enabling young pitchers to be confident throwing outside of the zone can be immensely valuable to a young pitcher's development. That being said, I am fine with AJ dealing him if he can get anything of sufficient value in return.

Quote from fenn68 on January 18, 2020, 5:21 pm
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Quote from Ben Davey on January 17, 2020, 11:58 pm

There was a rumor floated around the internet a few days ago about the Mets being interested in Hedges.  It sounds more like a Hacksaw thing than a real rumor, but found it interesting.  The Mets are in need of a catcher that can work with their great pitchers.

I guess the question is, what is Hedges value, and what would the Padres want in return?  I'd guess a complex kid to try and pull off another Tatis Jr deal and if they dont pan out its fine.  Padres would then go into camp with Mejia/Torrens as the catchers.  Torrens might not be Hedges behind the plate, but is really good.

Hedges to the METS ... had not really considered that ... makes some sense for the METS to pair a top defensive catcher with their incumbent Wilson Ramos (plus hit but so-so defense). They need a legit second catcher to split time with Ramos and be available if Ramos in injured ... don’t think they have that now.

METS are looking to be a legit contender ... clearly an elite 1-5 SP staff and their offense is set up to be in the upper 1/3rd of MLB. A Ramos injury could hurt them a lot in that quest if without a ML quality replacement.

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I could see Preller being OK with a Mejia / Torrens combo to provide more offense to an offensive starved club but being OK keeping Hedges (for now) if the return is not to his likening. With Hedges he is “selling” an elite defensive catcher with 3 years control and a manageable $3MM salary ... offset by limited offense value. METS to seem the type of team with elite pitching and sufficient hitting to cover Hedges’ shortcomings.

Agree the target return could well be a non-roster DSL/Rookie Ball type with major upside (Preller is good with those deals).

If the rumor had some basis in fact ... guess neither side felt a sense of urgency so Preller asked high and METS offered low ... no deal for now. Do see the logic for that to be revisited before the season starts.

Mets are set with Nido and Ramos.  So you guys are good with Torrens starting for a "contender?" That's what you get for an extended period at some point when Mejia gets hurt. Because that's what C do and why teams are carrying two starter quality C on the 26. Any Hedges move has to be offset with a new ML ready C coming from somewhere not Amarillo.

Doubt the METS are "set" with Nido and would upgrade that 2nd catcher if they could. Nido is 25 and only has managed 230 ML ABs with a line of 187/222/291 ... not the profile of a 2nd catcher on a legit contender with an elite SP staff. They need a veteran 2nd catcher with Nido in reserve in AAA.

Not sure Hedges is their best solution but he has proven elite defense as a veteran and may be their only upgrade option ... offense slightly better (but not much) over Nido with 1163 ML ABs Hedges slash line is a paltry 201/257/360.

Now you can say the same thing about the Padres if you think they are a legit contender in 2020 rather than a pretender and agree that Torrens deserves time in AAA.

For me if a good return can be had for Hedges (and I doubt that will happen) ... I have no issue dealing Hedges and maybe signing Hundley as a FA as the veteran 2nd catcher giving Torrens some AAA time before moving up the the ML.

Any team would upgrade any position if they could.

Hundley should have already been signed for depth.  Is Rivera still FA?  AJ could pick up a cast-off in ST to pair with Torrens, but like to have them him camp to learn pitchers and, of course, The Way of The Ting (before it's too late).

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/san-diego-padres-2020-top-10-mlb-prospects-chat/

Sean (Carlsbad, CA):

    Which top Padres prospect (or former) could be traded to land a big bat or top of the rotation arm? Who should they target?

Kyle Glaser: Adrian Morejon, Josh Naylor and Gabriel Arias are all players teams have interest in. I would not hesitate to build a package around one or two of them to land a true, everyday center fielder who can actually hit, such as Starling Marte.

Bryant and Chatwood for Myers, Morejon, Cal, Abrams, Potts   to Cubs.

Local reporting seem to suggest no major Padre deals are expected before the season.

As expected, Preller has checked in (don't know when) on Bryant, Lindor, and Clevenger with no hint of any viability for any potential deals.

WYSIWYG.

If there are no expected "major" deals on the near horizon ... there may be some "minor" deals before the start of the season ... possible the Padres want to clear some roster players for upgrades (add non-roster or via the trade) even if it is just the bench or add to the prospect bank.

At some point the Padres have to look at some of the players on the 40 man ... ones that have some value / upside but may not be making the 2020 26 man roster and really don't NEED more time in the minors while blocking other prospects coming up. Fair odds that a number of non-roster players will make a bid for the 26 man in 2020 (Gore, Patino, Trammell, Miller, Quiroz, etc) and it may be smart to not wait for a 60 day DL opening or try to make the offset move (probably DFA) with limited options.

They need a buyer of course, but Perdomo comes to mind. Housecleaning more than anything else.

My new trade wish list..be it before season or at deadline

1) Yelich.. Brewers appear to be rebuilding 2 1/2 (at deadline) yrs of control make this MVP ideal fit for a WS push.. It will likely cost Patino +++ $$ salary and Control too good

2) Bryant .. Pads can get creative with Manny 2B ..Kris 3B.. Or go Kris LF Pham RF.. Adding this stud bat gives us a legit postseason chance.. 1 1/2 yrs of control not ideal but ok

3) Clevinger.. STUD Ace we need

4) Contreras.. If all else fails adding Contreras and 2 1/2 yrs of control to Mejia guves us trendous flex..

 

Since the Padres did not get Betts eliminating any chance of a winning season in 2020 🙂 ... and considering there is a lot of ideal chatter about teams such as ATL, TEX, and PHIL having a need for upgrade at 3B and should pursue Bryant or Arenado ... time to dangle Machado in a deal?

He greatly underperformed his new contract ... primarily because he was a significantly below average hitter at PETCO but a very good hitter on the road ... a good selling point. Maybe get out of the contract before another year of sub-optimal performance further reduces his value.

So far he is just another version of Myers and Hosmer for the Padres.

Quote from fenn68 on February 5, 2020, 8:52 am

Since the Padres did not get Betts eliminating any chance of a winning season in 2020 🙂 ... and considering there is a lot of ideal chatter about teams such as ATL, TEX, and PHIL having a need for upgrade at 3B and should pursue Bryant or Arenado ... time to dangle Machado in a deal?

He greatly underperformed his new contract ... primarily because he was a significantly below average hitter at PETCO but a very good hitter on the road ... a good selling point. Maybe get out of the contract before another year of sub-optimal performance further reduces his value.

So far he is just another version of Myers and Hosmer for the Padres.

We are projected to win 85 at this moment... ??? Thick of the WC chase..

Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 5, 2020, 9:00 am
Quote from fenn68 on February 5, 2020, 8:52 am

Since the Padres did not get Betts eliminating any chance of a winning season in 2020 🙂 ... and considering there is a lot of ideal chatter about teams such as ATL, TEX, and PHIL having a need for upgrade at 3B and should pursue Bryant or Arenado ... time to dangle Machado in a deal?

He greatly underperformed his new contract ... primarily because he was a significantly below average hitter at PETCO but a very good hitter on the road ... a good selling point. Maybe get out of the contract before another year of sub-optimal performance further reduces his value.

So far he is just another version of Myers and Hosmer for the Padres.

We are projected to win 85 at this moment... ??? Thick of the WC chase..

Think those projections were before the upgrades by the LAD and AZ which have a good chance of taking some of the projected wins against those teams and turn them into losses. Think Vegas had the Padres at 83 before the moves and I took the under.