Quote from TatisJr on January 3, 2020, 10:38 am

Like I’ve stated before I have no idea what Hedges trade value is and I might be way off in my price tag for him. I’m in favor of moving Hedges this offseason and still think he will be traded.  I also think it’s foolish to assume “well he hasn’t been traded and it’s Jan 3 so he must have no value and no other team wants him.” Do you guys think trades won’t happen from now until the beginning of the season involving  valuable trade pieces?

Quote from 3fingersplit on January 3, 2020, 11:17 am

Why doesn't somebody teach him how to hit ?

If he hit .230 with 15-20 HR would everybody be in such a hurry to trade him?

BTW- Mejia is NOT a catcher....terrible mechanics and pitchers have zero faith in him

Quote from sportwarrior on January 3, 2020, 12:03 pm

Quote from 3fingersplit on January 3, 2020, 11:17 am

Why doesn't somebody teach him how to hit ?

If he hit .230 with 15-20 HR would everybody be in such a hurry to trade him?

BTW- Mejia is NOT a catcher....terrible mechanics and pitchers have zero faith in him

RE: Hedges... If only it were that simple!

RE: Mejia... He's gotta get better defensively, but by most accounts that I've read he's been doing so and continues to work at it. He's especially gotta get better at passed balls and whatnot. I haven't read anything about pitchers losing faith in him, but when Grandal was a Padre I remember the staff completely losing in faith in him because a) he kept letting passed balls/wild pitches go by, and b) he was a dick. At least Mejia seems like a nice kid?

Quote from fenn68 on January 3, 2020, 1:17 pm

Quote from 3fingersplit on January 3, 2020, 11:17 am

Why doesn't somebody teach him how to hit ?

If he hit .230 with 15-20 HR would everybody be in such a hurry to trade him?

BTW- Mejia is NOT a catcher....terrible mechanics and pitchers have zero faith in him

Or why doesn't Hedges try to learn how to hit?

Maybe ... just maybe ... he does not have the physical and/or mental skills to hit at the ML level which is an issue with thousands of professional players over the years.

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At least Mejia does appear to have the physical tools to improve defensively with core agility and a very strong arm plus every indication a real desire to work on his craft ... with the help of Barajas there is a chance. Mejia on had 463 innings behind the dish last season (1/3 of a season) ... so actually playing and being coached may help.

On the other hand, NYY won 103 games last season with the bulk of the catching by Gary Sanchez .... a truly bad catcher but can hit (at least in Yankee Stadium). The correlation between winning and not having a bad defensive catcher is a bit over stated. Padres won only 70 games with a third being caught by one of the top defensive catchers (and #1 framer) in Hedges.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on January 3, 2020, 2:00 pm

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Quote from TatisJr on January 3, 2020, 8:42 am

I don’t understand the logic on this Booster. Why would Hedges be dealt already if he was worth 80-150 spec? I have no idea what Hedges trade value is because he’s such an extreme specialized player, but going into the offseason I pegged him as having 100-150 spec value so pretty much in line with Henry’s thinking. There haven’t been many trades yet this offseason, but we are still waiting on a big fish in Donaldson who is likely holding up multiple moves for teams involved in the 3B market. The Dodgers, Braves, Nats, Twins, Rangers, Rockies and Cubs are all likely impacted by Donaldson’s decision so other moves are in a holding pattern. Happens every offseason and with FA going later and later into the new year trade season gets delayed later and later.

Because, if someone offered AJP a top 80-150 prospect, AJP would have jumped on that offer. So, apparently MLB does not agree with your and Henrys assessment of Hedges. Let put it this way, right now Campusano is listed as prospect #86 on MLB.com. Would you trade Campusano for Hedges? Didnt think so, so why would another team trade for Hedges for a prospect similar to Campusano? They wouldnt.

Basically all of baseball is telling us on here that Hedges has no value to another team, because he cant hit water if he fell out of a boat in the middle of SD Bay.

The only reason we like Hedges on this site, is because we drafted him, and he came up in our system. Be honest, if Hedges was on the Marlins, would you really want to trade for him? You would think the same thing as baseball. Great Catcher, but if Hedges was in the AL, I would think about using the DH for Hedges instead of the pitcher. Thats why Hedges has no value outside of SD, besides being a throw in piece in a bigger trade.

And here is the saddest part, Hedges cant understand this himself and why he needs to get better at hitting. And that is why he needs to go!

Would AJP jumpon that? Not without a Catcher on hand he wouldnt .. So perhaps 2-3-4 teams have multiple offers for Hedges and are waiting on Chirisnos decision before doing anything-- by the same token COntreras is being shopped around as well with nothing doing as well-- My (AJP) thought process us probably along the lines of We like A B and C, if we can get them then Hedges can go to team X Y or Z for the package/s we've discussed.. However if A B or C arent available or we get "outbid" for them, then we (Padres) are perfectly happy with Mejia/Hedges platoon in 2020

Quote from fenn68 on January 3, 2020, 2:16 pm

Think you are right on target. Preller is not going to move Hedges until he has a replacement in place (not going with Torrens).

Would not be surprised if Preller was in on both Castro and Chirinos .... both played on winners ... both have some hitting skills as veterans .. plus Castro did a lot to help develop Garver last season with MINN. Castro gone ... so maybe Chirinos still is in play but if they don’t sign him would expect Hedges to stay.

Now I would not be surprised if some teams are “interested” in Hedges .... but only at a low end return and Preller is sitting with that in pocket if needed.

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Quote from fenn68 on January 3, 2020, 1:17 pm

Quote from 3fingersplit on January 3, 2020, 11:17 am

Why doesn't somebody teach him how to hit ?

If he hit .230 with 15-20 HR would everybody be in such a hurry to trade him?

BTW- Mejia is NOT a catcher....terrible mechanics and pitchers have zero faith in him

Or why doesn't Hedges try to learn how to hit?

Maybe ... just maybe ... he does not have the physical and/or mental skills to hit at the ML level which is an issue with thousands of professional players over the years.

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At least Mejia does appear to have the physical tools to improve defensively with core agility and a very strong arm plus every indication a real desire to work on his craft ... with the help of Barajas there is a chance. Mejia on had 463 innings behind the dish last season (1/3 of a season) ... so actually playing and being coached may help.

On the other hand, NYY won 103 games last season with the bulk of the catching by Gary Sanchez .... a truly bad catcher but can hit (at least in Yankee Stadium). The correlation between winning and not having a bad defensive catcher is a bit over stated. Padres won only 70 games with a third being caught by one of the top defensive catchers (and #1 framer) in Hedges.

I guess you would actually need a hitting coach that could break down Hedges swing and approach and be able to communicate that. Hedges would need to be open to the idea that his approach/swing is not working and his baseball career is in doubt.

Players all say they want to get better but it has to start with the hitting coach....Hedges has so many bad habits as a hitter....doesn't track the ball, rolls out on his front heel and has zero balance, his one hand fly away swing is garbage and any coach that teaches that should be fired, his hands are too high and he squares off every swing....A-B-C instead of A-B and he has a loop in his swing that gets him in a under the ball position in the strike zone....palm straight...hit it great, palm to the sky....you hit it high....barrel above the ball as opposed to barrel below the ball.

Can he be fixed ? ........Yes

Do the Padres have anybody that could fix him or even understand what the problems are ?....... I doubt it

Quote from fenn68 on January 3, 2020, 5:06 pm

So, Hedges and his agent (Boras Corp) are not interested in improving Hedges hitting after 3 years of a .200 BA and sub-.300 OBP unless the Padres make the effort by providing a better hitting coach?

Should we expect Hedges (pushed by his agent) to take the initiative and find a hitting instructor if the Padres’ hitting coach is not getting through? It is for their own advantage for Hedges to be better.

If after 9 years since he was drafted no hitting coach his been able to get Hedges to modify his approach to be a better hitter ... I am throwing all the focus on Hedges’ lack of motivation to improve (or just the physical inability to improve).

Most can see a lot of flaws in Hedges approach ... probably all the hitting coaches, managers, announcers, et al also see the issues ... why doesn’t Hedges and take the initiative ... it is his career.

Quote from BoosterSD on January 3, 2020, 6:27 pm

Perusing the internet on a Friday, trying to find more Padre stuff to review. I came across an "article" on friarsonbase that suggests that we sign Nova as a back end starter, depending on price.....maybe.

Here is the one that got me. Author suggests that we trade for Haniger. Which, in itself, has been presented on this thread, and in all, is not a bad idea. What I thought was a bad idea, was the package that he proposed sending in order to get Haniger.

Margot, Trammell, Lawson, and Espinoza for Haniger.

Seems a bit high to me, thoughts?