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#241 · March 21, 2023, 11:21 pm
Because of his experience, don't think Dahl will lose out to Kohlwey for one of the last roster spots on the 26 man opening day roster, but Kohlwey has been very impressive. But is he an AAAA hitter or can he really be expected to hit MLB pitching on a consistent basis?
If you compare Dahl and Kohlwey, Dahl has a lot more power but Kohlwey draws more walks and strikes out a lot less. Of course, Dahl has a lot more experience at the highest level of competition. I would like to see Kohlwey got an opportunity to make the majors, whether it is with San Diego because Dahl or Engel fail or with some other MLB team. He could have signed anywhere after 2022 as a minor league Free Agent, but stayed in the San Diego system; already 28 but deserves a chance.
#242 · March 22, 2023, 6:17 am
Quote from Randy Manese on March 21, 2023, 11:21 pmBecause of his experience, don't think Dahl will lose out to Kohlwey for one of the last roster spots on the 26 man opening day roster, but Kohlwey has been very impressive. But is he an AAAA hitter or can he really be expected to hit MLB pitching on a consistent basis?
If you compare Dahl and Kohlwey, Dahl has a lot more power but Kohlwey draws more walks and strikes out a lot less. Of course, Dahl has a lot more experience at the highest level of competition. I would like to see Kohlwey got an opportunity to make the majors, whether it is with San Diego because Dahl or Engel fail or with some other MLB team. He could have signed anywhere after 2022 as a minor league Free Agent, but stayed in the San Diego system; already 28 but deserves a chance.
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#243 · March 22, 2023, 6:26 am
Quote from Jeremy Hill on March 21, 2023, 10:38 pmI just went and looked at old top prospect lists. Back in 2017 MLB.com had Espinoza at 25 and Honeywell at 31. Both guys have just been wrecked by injuries. It would be a great story if either of them could stay healthy and find success. Looking at those old lists is a trip. Josh Bell was 27th, Hader was 38th, Mejia was 40th, Groome was 41st, Renfroe was 42nd, Mateo was 47th, Alfaro was 72nd and Quantrill was 97th. That's a lot of guys with ties to the Padres.
I saw one where Gore #12.. Honeywell #13 Woodruff #23 and Barnes #31
So yeah Espinoza pitched as well a 4 inning stretch as he has pitched in his entire pro career (ST or not) yesterday.. if he stays healthy and can have a Gore/Groome type reinassance along with Honeywell..and Weathers ..that would put us in a position of real Strength at SP (low cost and all) as they would supplement our 3 or so TOR Vets that I expect SDP to carry each and every yr for the next decade..Having a constant stream of controlled arms behind them for #4-#7+ depth and long man.. would play out Huge for our SDP..
#244 · March 22, 2023, 1:53 pm
I must say that I have been surprised and impressed by Groome. I really didn't expect much, if anything, from him. Now he is looking like a younger, cheaper version of Sean Manea. Same size and same stuff from the left side. Groome might actually have better stuff now. He is almost assured to make the team now, and he has earned it.
#245 · March 22, 2023, 2:53 pm
Yeh, Groome has looks the part of a ML pitcher ... and interested that Preller went after him (vs others) in the Hosmer deal knowing Preller has a pretty good eye for young talent.
Would be very happy if he can just deliver near a 4.05 ERA (2022 league ERA for SP) and that would have him come in about #80 among SP (arguable a #3-4 quality).
Consider in 2022 #4-6 came in: Manaea (5.06); Martinez (4.30 before he improved as a RP); Gore (4.27); and Clevinger (4.25). With that the Padres made the playoffs.
Add in Wacha who was better than 4.05 (but an up or down risk); a hopefully "better" Martinez; and would not rule out Lugo having a better season than Manaea and, at least, as productive as the other three (maybe better if his RP work translates to SP to any degree).
Probably setting up for a better #4-6 than last season ... and hopes are still there for Teheran / Honeywell being positive factors if needed.
#246 · March 22, 2023, 3:02 pm
Quote from fenn68 on March 22, 2023, 2:53 pmYeh, Groome has looks the part of a ML pitcher ... and interested that Preller went after him (vs others) in the Hosmer deal knowing Preller has a pretty good eye for young talent.
Would be very happy if he can just deliver near a 4.05 ERA (2022 league ERA for SP) and that would have him come in about #80 among SP (arguable a #3-4 quality).
Consider in 2022 #4-6 came in: Manaea (5.06); Martinez (4.30 before he improved as a RP); Gore (4.27); and Clevinger (4.25). With that the Padres made the playoffs.
Add in Wacha who was better than 4.05 (but an up or down risk); a hopefully "better" Martinez; and would not rule out Lugo having a better season than Manaea and, at least, as productive as the other three (maybe better if his RP work translates to SP to any degree).
Probably setting up for a better #4-6 than last season ... and hopes are still there for Teheran / Honeywell being positive factors if needed.
Probably can add .5 to that ERA for 2023 4.55 league avg? With new rules..and clock
#247 · March 22, 2023, 3:13 pm
Quote from Henry Silvestre on March 22, 2023, 3:02 pmQuote from fenn68 on March 22, 2023, 2:53 pmYeh, Groome has looks the part of a ML pitcher ... and interested that Preller went after him (vs others) in the Hosmer deal knowing Preller has a pretty good eye for young talent.
Would be very happy if he can just deliver near a 4.05 ERA (2022 league ERA for SP) and that would have him come in about #80 among SP (arguable a #3-4 quality).
Consider in 2022 #4-6 came in: Manaea (5.06); Martinez (4.30 before he improved as a RP); Gore (4.27); and Clevinger (4.25). With that the Padres made the playoffs.
Add in Wacha who was better than 4.05 (but an up or down risk); a hopefully "better" Martinez; and would not rule out Lugo having a better season than Manaea and, at least, as productive as the other three (maybe better if his RP work translates to SP to any degree).
Probably setting up for a better #4-6 than last season ... and hopes are still there for Teheran / Honeywell being positive factors if needed.
Probably can add .5 to that ERA for 2023 4.55 league avg? With new rules..and clock
Up ... probably ... would be surprised if it was +.5. Personally don't see the clock causing much of an issue for most pitchers ... in ST did not seem to bother the pitchers. Actually the clock may hurt some hitters who need to be ready with this time clock. Maybe a pitcher / hitter offset.
We will have to see on the shift ... more hits likely but will that translate into a lot more runs per game ... maybe some but maybe not that much. I will be interesting to see if the pitchers approach the batter differently and try to avoid leading the hitter to hit into the old shift alignment.
A game of adjustments for both the pitchers and hitters ... so probably can't just overlay the 2022 onto the 2023 rules.
#248 · March 22, 2023, 3:22 pm
For now just assume the 2022 average ERA remains (if it changes not sure if that will impact some pitchers more than others ... that is something we will have to see). The Padres rotations is setting up (SP numbers):
- Musgrove (2.93)
- Darvish (3.10)
- Wacha (3.32)
- Snell (3.38)
- Martinez (4.30 ... 10 starts) ... 3.47 as a RP
- Lugo (------) ... 3.60 as a RP
- Groome (-----) ... -----
Some will be less productive and some better but as a group that sets up as a pretty deep SP staff compared to other teams. Then layer in the elite offense on top of these ERAs .... this could be good.
#249 · March 23, 2023, 6:41 am
Knehr optioned to El Paso.