Quote from BoosterSD on July 27, 2019, 8:53 am

It depends on the prospects that we give up.

Quote from fenn68 on July 27, 2019, 9:26 am

Quote from BoosterSD on July 27, 2019, 8:53 am

It depends on the prospects that we give up.

and who gets bumped off the 25 man roster to make room.

Don't see a move to get Maraza (unless for a marginal prospect and because the Padres have moved Renfroe or Reyes in a different deal). Maraza then becomes ML filler until the better thing comes along.

IF the Padres are really focused on adding a SP ... using Renfroe or Reyes might be a key (think Boyd from DET) (Stroman from Toronto) (Bauer from Cleveland) ... even (Syndergaard for NYM) ... all could use corner OF/power under long control / low cost adds going forward. Not one for one mind you but a ML piece that could (should) lower the prospect cost in the trade.

If that was the route ... at least SD still has a ML OF (and LHH) that is not particularly better or worse than the others while improving the SP for 2020. Net a plus, at least in theory. If in that scenario they did not add Maraza, they would have to go with some combo of Myers, Naylor, or Cordero .... not a warm fuzzy feeling there.

So maybe an issue of how other dominoes fall.

 

Quote from 3fingersplit on July 27, 2019, 10:22 am

Making a trade to make a trade is garbage......Trade Renfroe and get what ?

Replace Renfroe with Cordero ?

Cordero will never play, his swing is full of holes and other than the very occasional pitch he runs into....Renfroe plays circles around him and he stays HEALTHY

Trade Reyes, Naylor and Cordero to the AL and let them DH if that gets a return but some of these trades can be had in the off season for way less than the sellers market known as the trade deadline

Meyers needs to put his ego aside and take some help with his swing and overall approach but the blame should be shared between Johnny Washington and Andy Green.....you don't give up on a guy making this much money with his talent.

I could get Meyers fixed inside of 10 days and he would be raking the ball but they have a hitting coach and Manager that should be doing that...same with Hedges...his defense is so much better than Mejia. I wish Mejia was able to play another position because the pitchers don't have the confidence in his defensive skills behind the plate...watch him....he snaps at the ball.

Urias will be fine as long as this dry spell doesn't get in his head....he has hit the ball hard and has been the victim of really good defense on quite a few of those balls in play...kinda like when Reyes was smoking the ball early in the season and was hitting .084

Oh Well....That's my Saturday morning rant after another loss to the Giants.....4 in a row....why did Andy Green take Munoz out ?

I guess the kid can only throw 10-15 pitches every couple of days

Quote from MrPadre19 on July 27, 2019, 10:59 am

Who said anything about trading Renfroe "just to trade him"?

The thought is that "if" it takes Renfroe to get a TOR starter like Bauer/Thor/Stroman then AJ is probably lining up a secondary deal to get Mazara to take his place.

No one is suggesting Mazara is as good....the opposite actually,but it at least makes sense if it improves the rotation enough to make his loss

agreeable.

Unfortunately these teams want at least one major league player along with prospects.They also want someone worth having.

The only position we have an "excess of",if there is such a thing is corner OF.

The very reason you want to hold on to Renfroe is the reason these teams want him.

The "you gotta give something to get something".

Now whether it turns out to be a mistake is another matter.

But at least we do have guys like Reyes/Cordero/Jankowski/Myers to play if Renfroe is traded.

I actually think that if the playoffs are out(and it seems that way) we need to play Myers every day anyway.

He needs to break out of this funk or we're in real trouble over the next couple seasons.

We need him to build some trade value back or contribute.....a team like the Padres can't win with a guy on the bench making $20 mil

per season.

 

 

Quote from fenn68 on July 27, 2019, 12:04 pm

Assuming no "blockbuster" trade that alters starting line-up .... what to do to direct focus on setting up players for 2020?

1. lock in the Mejia / Hedges split at about 2:1 ... both play, both get rest, and Mejia gets the ABs and catching time to develop;
2. play Urias every day to see if he comes around ... if not ... that is a winter issue
3. call up Jankowski to share time in CF with Margot ... need to get Jankowski back into the game ... and that time share locks down elite CF defense (both have it), solid base running (both have it) and maybe pairs the inability for Jankowski to hit LHP and Margot's troubles with RHP for a better net result. Also, the one on the bench is a useful defensive replacement for Reyes in late innings.
4. considering #2 and #3, release Kinsler even if you have to eat the contract (need the roster spot)
5. play Myers ... in LF only... as much as possible and return Renfroe to RF. When Reyes gets playing time he replaces Renfroe and if it is Myers, Renfroe returns to LF. Cost some playing time for Renfroe / Reyes but must get a better read on Myers' ability to rebound.
6. keep Strahm in the pen .. clearly a better pitcher when going only 2-3 innings all out (future with LHRP combo of Castillo - Strahm looks promising)
7. back off a bit on Paddack's workload and run Quantrill, Allen, and Morejon out there for starts to see what the have in that role. If needed might even back off a bit on Lamet, Lucchesi and Lauer ... no reason to burn them out either. Leave a window open in September for Richards to get ML work.
8. back off on Stammen's use (FA to be) and place Perdomo, Wingenter, Munoz, and Baez in more late inning situations to see how surfaces as the best for that role.

Then by the off-season Preller has a better idea of the moves he needs to make to move to contention.

Quote from MrPadre19 on July 27, 2019, 3:10 pm

Things would be completely different if Myers and Urias were hitting.

 

Quote from fenn68 on July 29, 2019, 11:55 am

A note on my suggestion of getting Jankowski up and sharing CF time with Margot .... good for this season but would give Preller a better view on winter moves. Consider both Margot and Jankowski are low cost and controlled for a few year ... consider there really is no high quality CF ML ready let alone available at a reasonable price. So, what might we have in a time share of Margot and Jankowski ... first plus defense for all the games then offensively:

v LHP 389/484/556 ... Margot (2019)

v RHP 276/345/371 ... Jankowski (2018)

Speed for the bases, CF defense, and a compelling OBP the Padres seek ... if you combine the two strategically. Would think the potential for a 300/375/400 slash line out of CF for a couple of million in salary would be a great outcome.

Individually they lack in the reverse:

v. LHP 188/278/234 ... Jankowski (2018)

v. RHP 203/266/327 ... Margot (2019)

Don't normally like platoons but in this case for the Padres right now ... might be a very good solution.

Quote from Brian Connelly on July 29, 2019, 1:17 pm

Quote from fenn68 on July 29, 2019, 11:55 am

A note on my suggestion of getting Jankowski up and sharing CF time with Margot .... good for this season but would give Preller a better view on winter moves. Consider both Margot and Jankowski are low cost and controlled for a few year ... consider there really is no high quality CF ML ready let alone available at a reasonable price. So, what might we have in a time share of Margot and Jankowski ... first plus defense for all the games then offensively:

v LHP 389/484/556 ... Margot (2019)

v RHP 276/345/371 ... Jankowski (2018)

Speed for the bases, CF defense, and a compelling OBP the Padres seek ... if you combine the two strategically. Would think the potential for a 300/375/400 slash line out of CF for a couple of million in salary would be a great outcome.

Individually they lack in the reverse:

v. LHP 188/278/234 ... Jankowski (2018)

v. RHP 203/266/327 ... Margot (2019)

Don't normally like platoons but in this case for the Padres right now ... might be a very good solution.

Love the platoon... not having a LH CF capable OF has really hurt.  Not only did Cordero go down a week in, but Boog Powell the #3 option behind he & Jank also missed > a month to start the season!   Powell came out hot, but then Cordero rehab was on horizon, so never got the callup.  Then Cordero had the setback & it was Jankowski on the horizon.  Bottom line: our top 3 LH CF backups all were hurt so a combined 15 MLB AB (Cordero) so far this season.

I think Jankowski gets recalled very soon like Aug 1 whether or not there is an OF trade.

HUGE benefit to currently configured OF is guy on bench comes in as PH/massive defensive upgrade daily.

Quote from Brian Connelly on July 29, 2019, 1:18 pm

Quote from David Nevin on July 27, 2019, 3:10 pm

Things would be completely different if Myers and Urias were hitting.

 

Myers 2 2B, then HR in 9th yesterday... KEEP PLAYING HIM!