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Quote from Commie on July 4, 2019, 4:46 pmQuote from 84padres on July 4, 2019, 12:39 pmI still would like to trade for Mitch Haniger from Seattle. He is having a down year but pretty good the last years. OB of .352 and .366 and OBS of .843 and .859. and is a left handed hitter which we need. Seattle is a dumpster fire and Dipoto loves to make trades just for the sake of it. Offer 1 of our OFs straight up or add a prospect like Margevicius and see what happens.
Well, if Haniger is dealt to SD he'll need to nut up to be of any use.
Quote from 84padres on July 4, 2019, 12:39 pmI still would like to trade for Mitch Haniger from Seattle. He is having a down year but pretty good the last years. OB of .352 and .366 and OBS of .843 and .859. and is a left handed hitter which we need. Seattle is a dumpster fire and Dipoto loves to make trades just for the sake of it. Offer 1 of our OFs straight up or add a prospect like Margevicius and see what happens.
Well, if Haniger is dealt to SD he'll need to nut up to be of any use.
Quote from 84padres on July 4, 2019, 7:10 pmQuote from David Nevin on July 4, 2019, 5:35 pmWhere would he play?
Do you put Renfroe or Reyes on the bench?
I would trade 1 of them even up or have Seattle add a prospect and we could add Margevicius. Haniger would add OBA and balance lefty righty hitting. We need baserunners because hitting bases empty HRs isn't working. Also Lamet lookin good through 3
Quote from David Nevin on July 4, 2019, 5:35 pmWhere would he play?
Do you put Renfroe or Reyes on the bench?
I would trade 1 of them even up or have Seattle add a prospect and we could add Margevicius. Haniger would add OBA and balance lefty righty hitting. We need baserunners because hitting bases empty HRs isn't working. Also Lamet lookin good through 3
Quote from Alex Tamayo on July 4, 2019, 8:38 pmSo, I guess is gonna be 42-48 at the break, is that better than previous years?
So, I guess is gonna be 42-48 at the break, is that better than previous years?
Quote from Alex Tamayo on July 4, 2019, 9:38 pmMyers has 102 strikeouts ( about 100 of them looking) in 251 ABs, all that talent and the problem apparently is between his ears
Myers has 102 strikeouts ( about 100 of them looking) in 251 ABs, all that talent and the problem apparently is between his ears
Quote from WindsorUK on July 4, 2019, 10:40 pmCan we option Meyers to El Paso?
If, as Alex suggests, this is a mental thing with Will, would 2 weeks in AAA make him right?
Can we option Meyers to El Paso?
If, as Alex suggests, this is a mental thing with Will, would 2 weeks in AAA make him right?
Quote from Brian Connelly on July 5, 2019, 9:44 amQuote from Alex Tamayo on July 4, 2019, 9:38 pmMyers has 102 strikeouts ( about 100 of them looking) in 251 ABs, all that talent and the problem apparently is between his ears
... and it always has been
Quote from Alex Tamayo on July 4, 2019, 9:38 pmMyers has 102 strikeouts ( about 100 of them looking) in 251 ABs, all that talent and the problem apparently is between his ears
... and it always has been
Quote from fenn68 on July 5, 2019, 9:55 amQuote from 84padres on July 4, 2019, 12:39 pmI still would like to trade for Mitch Haniger from Seattle. He is having a down year but pretty good the last years. OB of .352 and .366 and OBS of .843 and .859. and is a left handed hitter which we need. Seattle is a dumpster fire and Dipoto loves to make trades just for the sake of it. Offer 1 of our OFs straight up or add a prospect like Margevicius and see what happens.
Think Haniger is a RHH. Looked at the 2 year performance of Haniger, Renfroe, Reyes to maybe level out a bit time lost to injury and hot/cold streaks:
Haniger ... 129 wRC+ with the clear OBP advantage
Renfroe ... 120 wRC+ with the SLG advantage
Reyes ... 124 wRC+ with similar SLG to Renfroe and slightly better OBP than Renfroe
defensively Haniger is closer to Reyes than to Renfroe ... so he would not add much defensively.
Haniger is 28 at league minimum and 3 more control years ... Renfroe is 27 at league minimum and 4 more control years ... Reyes is 23 at league minimum and 5 more control years.
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Basically the three are not all that dissimilar, just which aspect of their game does a team prefer. Hard to pull off a 1 for 1 deal in part because of the shorter control on Haniger.
Since Haniger is a desirable piece for a few teams ... good chance DiPoto would like to attach the contracts of Gordon or Leake or, given their position in the AL West and soft farm system, try for multiple quality prospects.
Quote from 84padres on July 4, 2019, 12:39 pmI still would like to trade for Mitch Haniger from Seattle. He is having a down year but pretty good the last years. OB of .352 and .366 and OBS of .843 and .859. and is a left handed hitter which we need. Seattle is a dumpster fire and Dipoto loves to make trades just for the sake of it. Offer 1 of our OFs straight up or add a prospect like Margevicius and see what happens.
Think Haniger is a RHH. Looked at the 2 year performance of Haniger, Renfroe, Reyes to maybe level out a bit time lost to injury and hot/cold streaks:
Haniger ... 129 wRC+ with the clear OBP advantage
Renfroe ... 120 wRC+ with the SLG advantage
Reyes ... 124 wRC+ with similar SLG to Renfroe and slightly better OBP than Renfroe
defensively Haniger is closer to Reyes than to Renfroe ... so he would not add much defensively.
Haniger is 28 at league minimum and 3 more control years ... Renfroe is 27 at league minimum and 4 more control years ... Reyes is 23 at league minimum and 5 more control years.
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Basically the three are not all that dissimilar, just which aspect of their game does a team prefer. Hard to pull off a 1 for 1 deal in part because of the shorter control on Haniger.
Since Haniger is a desirable piece for a few teams ... good chance DiPoto would like to attach the contracts of Gordon or Leake or, given their position in the AL West and soft farm system, try for multiple quality prospects.
Quote from fenn68 on July 5, 2019, 10:07 amQuote from Brian Connelly on July 5, 2019, 9:44 amQuote from Alex Tamayo on July 4, 2019, 9:38 pmMyers has 102 strikeouts ( about 100 of them looking) in 251 ABs, all that talent and the problem apparently is between his ears
... and it always has been
Yet he has had a pretty consistent career stat line (not good but consistent) around a .760-.790 OPS (110 OPS+) and seems to have really regressed from that to .723 OPS (93 OPS+) and worse in the past month. Just not seeing the ball as before and not recognizing the spin? Guess pattern is off?
I think he got married last winter ... so maybe?
Not sure AAA can help and really don't have better in Naylor (or any other near term options until Jankowski returns and he should bump Naylor who is also struggling and needs AAA ABs). Cordero appears to be a non-factor until Sept, if then.
Quote from Brian Connelly on July 5, 2019, 9:44 amQuote from Alex Tamayo on July 4, 2019, 9:38 pmMyers has 102 strikeouts ( about 100 of them looking) in 251 ABs, all that talent and the problem apparently is between his ears
... and it always has been
Yet he has had a pretty consistent career stat line (not good but consistent) around a .760-.790 OPS (110 OPS+) and seems to have really regressed from that to .723 OPS (93 OPS+) and worse in the past month. Just not seeing the ball as before and not recognizing the spin? Guess pattern is off?
I think he got married last winter ... so maybe?
Not sure AAA can help and really don't have better in Naylor (or any other near term options until Jankowski returns and he should bump Naylor who is also struggling and needs AAA ABs). Cordero appears to be a non-factor until Sept, if then.
Quote from fenn68 on July 5, 2019, 10:18 amNote: Fangraphs put up a piece on Myers a couple of days ago ... long but interesting analysis.
The way I read it ... Myers seems to be doing the right things but getting not results analytics would expect, and they have no idea why. Sometimes analytics fail reality.
Note: Fangraphs put up a piece on Myers a couple of days ago ... long but interesting analysis.
The way I read it ... Myers seems to be doing the right things but getting not results analytics would expect, and they have no idea why. Sometimes analytics fail reality.




