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Potential frontline SP trade
Quote from MrPadre19 on April 1, 2019, 11:22 amSo then we would lose our 2nd round pick?
I'd be OK with that.
I also wish if we signed Dallas we went to a full on 6 man rotation.
The only reason (IMO) to "not" have one is if you have a bona fide Ace that is not on any innings limit that you would be limiting his starts.
We don't have that situation.
I realize we would probably just send Margavicius down to AA....which would be OK.But if we do I would like to promote either Allen or Quantrill,whichever pitches well in their first few starts,and go with a 6 man.
I would prefer this over shutting down Paddack and/or Strahm in August.
So then we would lose our 2nd round pick?
I'd be OK with that.
I also wish if we signed Dallas we went to a full on 6 man rotation.
The only reason (IMO) to "not" have one is if you have a bona fide Ace that is not on any innings limit that you would be limiting his starts.
We don't have that situation.
I realize we would probably just send Margavicius down to AA....which would be OK.But if we do I would like to promote either Allen or Quantrill,whichever pitches well in their first few starts,and go with a 6 man.
I would prefer this over shutting down Paddack and/or Strahm in August.
Quote from Cptjack on April 1, 2019, 11:33 amQuote from David Nevin on April 1, 2019, 10:43 amIf we sign Kuechel do we lose the #6 pick in the first round or is it protected?
3rd round pick for being in the bottom half of the league. Can't lose 1st round picks anymore.
Quote from David Nevin on April 1, 2019, 10:43 amIf we sign Kuechel do we lose the #6 pick in the first round or is it protected?
3rd round pick for being in the bottom half of the league. Can't lose 1st round picks anymore.
Quote from BoosterSD on April 1, 2019, 12:06 pmQuote from David Nevin on April 1, 2019, 11:22 amSo then we would lose our 2nd round pick?
I'd be OK with that.
I also wish if we signed Dallas we went to a full on 6 man rotation.
The only reason (IMO) to "not" have one is if you have a bona fide Ace that is not on any innings limit that you would be limiting his starts.
We don't have that situation.
I realize we would probably just send Margavicius down to AA....which would be OK.But if we do I would like to promote either Allen or Quantrill,whichever pitches well in their first few starts,and go with a 6 man.
I would prefer this over shutting down Paddack and/or Strahm in August.
I would say that IF we sign Kuechel, after he takes a couple of weeks in EST, the reason you could not go with a 6 man is it would screw up the rest days that these guys are used to getting. I could see using a piggy back situation to limit innings and keeping guys on proper rotation.
So lets say, Kuechel, Lauer, Paddock/Allen, Luchessi, Strahm/Quantril for a 5 day rotation.
Quote from David Nevin on April 1, 2019, 11:22 amSo then we would lose our 2nd round pick?
I'd be OK with that.
I also wish if we signed Dallas we went to a full on 6 man rotation.
The only reason (IMO) to "not" have one is if you have a bona fide Ace that is not on any innings limit that you would be limiting his starts.
We don't have that situation.
I realize we would probably just send Margavicius down to AA....which would be OK.But if we do I would like to promote either Allen or Quantrill,whichever pitches well in their first few starts,and go with a 6 man.
I would prefer this over shutting down Paddack and/or Strahm in August.
I would say that IF we sign Kuechel, after he takes a couple of weeks in EST, the reason you could not go with a 6 man is it would screw up the rest days that these guys are used to getting. I could see using a piggy back situation to limit innings and keeping guys on proper rotation.
So lets say, Kuechel, Lauer, Paddock/Allen, Luchessi, Strahm/Quantril for a 5 day rotation.
Quote from fenn68 on April 1, 2019, 12:46 pmNot all the comfortable with either Allen or Quantrill being added to the roster this early. Both really need to develop much better command ... and that seems to be something the Padres are nurturing more than in the past. Probably why Margevicius got added the others did not.
Unless he really gets bombed in the coming starts ... think Margevicius (who really is not on an innings limit) will get a decent starting run. At some point do think he will bumped out but till then buys some time.
With Paddack and Strahm working under some innings control limit .... why not just piggy back them? Maybe alternate starts with being flexible with innings for the starter and innings for the second in. That could have a secondary benefit of having the rest of the bullpen function "normally" in support of the other four starters.
Does sound more as though they will make extensive use of spot starters or bullpen days to break up the schedule (never hurts for occasional extra rest even for Lauer / Lucchesi). Also, expect to see some starts skipped once they start hitting off days. Maybe a more sneaky approach to innings control with multiple strategies deployed throughout the year.
Not all the comfortable with either Allen or Quantrill being added to the roster this early. Both really need to develop much better command ... and that seems to be something the Padres are nurturing more than in the past. Probably why Margevicius got added the others did not.
Unless he really gets bombed in the coming starts ... think Margevicius (who really is not on an innings limit) will get a decent starting run. At some point do think he will bumped out but till then buys some time.
With Paddack and Strahm working under some innings control limit .... why not just piggy back them? Maybe alternate starts with being flexible with innings for the starter and innings for the second in. That could have a secondary benefit of having the rest of the bullpen function "normally" in support of the other four starters.
Does sound more as though they will make extensive use of spot starters or bullpen days to break up the schedule (never hurts for occasional extra rest even for Lauer / Lucchesi). Also, expect to see some starts skipped once they start hitting off days. Maybe a more sneaky approach to innings control with multiple strategies deployed throughout the year.
Quote from BoosterSD on April 1, 2019, 1:14 pmYou could piggy back Strahm and Paddock, that would make for a very uncomfortable day for the opposing line up with very different LH and RH pitchers each working 4 innings.
You could piggy back Strahm and Paddock, that would make for a very uncomfortable day for the opposing line up with very different LH and RH pitchers each working 4 innings.
Quote from MrPadre19 on April 1, 2019, 1:26 pmThat was my original suggestion a month ago.
I thought about suggesting it again but after Paddacks start I don't know if I want to limit him to 4 innings a start.
I really don't see how putting a 6th starter in the rotation and adding "one" day additional rest for these "kids" would be a negative.
That was my original suggestion a month ago.
I thought about suggesting it again but after Paddacks start I don't know if I want to limit him to 4 innings a start.
I really don't see how putting a 6th starter in the rotation and adding "one" day additional rest for these "kids" would be a negative.
Quote from Cptjack on April 1, 2019, 1:43 pmWe needed an innings eater to start the season, not to end it. He won't be there for that. We can get looks at any number of guys after we're out of it.
We needed an innings eater to start the season, not to end it. He won't be there for that. We can get looks at any number of guys after we're out of it.
Quote from MrPadre19 on April 1, 2019, 5:49 pmPadres acquire Matt Wisler from the Reds for RHP Diomar Lopez.
Is this our RH starter to take Margevicius’s spot and send him back to AA or is Wisler gonna stay
a reliever?
Padres acquire Matt Wisler from the Reds for RHP Diomar Lopez.
Is this our RH starter to take Margevicius’s spot and send him back to AA or is Wisler gonna stay
a reliever?
Quote from Brian Connelly on April 1, 2019, 10:50 pmQuote from BoosterSD on April 1, 2019, 12:06 pmQuote from David Nevin on April 1, 2019, 11:22 amSo then we would lose our 2nd round pick?
I'd be OK with that.
I also wish if we signed Dallas we went to a full on 6 man rotation.
The only reason (IMO) to "not" have one is if you have a bona fide Ace that is not on any innings limit that you would be limiting his starts.
We don't have that situation.
I realize we would probably just send Margavicius down to AA....which would be OK.But if we do I would like to promote either Allen or Quantrill,whichever pitches well in their first few starts,and go with a 6 man.
I would prefer this over shutting down Paddack and/or Strahm in August.
I would say that IF we sign Kuechel, after he takes a couple of weeks in EST, the reason you could not go with a 6 man is it would screw up the rest days that these guys are used to getting. I could see using a piggy back situation to limit innings and keeping guys on proper rotation.
So lets say, Kuechel, Lauer, Paddock/Allen, Luchessi, Strahm/Quantril for a 5 day rotation.
That's 7 SP for 5 spots, leaving only 6 RP in pen AND short a position player on bench. I get that in theory don't need as many RP due to piggybackers, but may not work out that way game to game.
If they did get Keuchel, Stroman, someone like that, what they could do is employ a 6 man rotation but with new experienced guy making his start every 5th day, with all others every 6 days but extra days of rest interspersed. It'd look like: 1,2,3,4,5,1,6,2,3,4,1,5,6,2,3,1,4,5,6 etc. Limits all but new guy to 27 starts @ avg 5 IP per = 135 outer limit for Paddack & Strahm.
Quote from BoosterSD on April 1, 2019, 12:06 pmQuote from David Nevin on April 1, 2019, 11:22 amSo then we would lose our 2nd round pick?
I'd be OK with that.
I also wish if we signed Dallas we went to a full on 6 man rotation.
The only reason (IMO) to "not" have one is if you have a bona fide Ace that is not on any innings limit that you would be limiting his starts.
We don't have that situation.
I realize we would probably just send Margavicius down to AA....which would be OK.But if we do I would like to promote either Allen or Quantrill,whichever pitches well in their first few starts,and go with a 6 man.
I would prefer this over shutting down Paddack and/or Strahm in August.
I would say that IF we sign Kuechel, after he takes a couple of weeks in EST, the reason you could not go with a 6 man is it would screw up the rest days that these guys are used to getting. I could see using a piggy back situation to limit innings and keeping guys on proper rotation.
So lets say, Kuechel, Lauer, Paddock/Allen, Luchessi, Strahm/Quantril for a 5 day rotation.
That's 7 SP for 5 spots, leaving only 6 RP in pen AND short a position player on bench. I get that in theory don't need as many RP due to piggybackers, but may not work out that way game to game.
If they did get Keuchel, Stroman, someone like that, what they could do is employ a 6 man rotation but with new experienced guy making his start every 5th day, with all others every 6 days but extra days of rest interspersed. It'd look like: 1,2,3,4,5,1,6,2,3,4,1,5,6,2,3,1,4,5,6 etc. Limits all but new guy to 27 starts @ avg 5 IP per = 135 outer limit for Paddack & Strahm.




