Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 14, 2018, 4:07 pm

Kimd of went away from my point though..Noah is available now (Yellich was last yr..there is NO Yellich available this year)..t..there might not be a THOR available next...or lets say he stays healthy and pitches 200ip ..w..well he ain't coming next off season os he...cause a 200 ip Noah is worth Tatis Jr +++++ and we ain't paying that price

Quote from ramrodd on December 14, 2018, 4:40 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 14, 2018, 4:07 pm

Kimd of went away from my point though..Noah is available now (Yellich was last yr..there is NO Yellich available this year)..t..there might not be a THOR available next...or lets say he stays healthy and pitches 200ip ..w..well he ain't coming next off season os he...cause a 200 ip Noah is worth Tatis Jr +++++ and we ain't paying that price

Oh Henry. Except Noah is injury prone every year and never pitched 200 innings.

Quote from Cptjack on December 14, 2018, 4:47 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 14, 2018, 4:04 pm

We have to make progress....cant go from 0 to 60..even the fastest cars need 3 or 4 seconds...

Making progress doesn't have to and shouldn't involve a redistribution of assets before they've reached maturation. Why put chips in a pot holding a 2/9 offsuit.

Even if we dealt exclusively from positions of substantial depth. Mejia, Renfroe, Naylor. It still only amounts to 80 wins and increased risk through the volatility of an injury prone pitcher.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 14, 2018, 5:47 pm

What if the deal is centered around an injury prone Corner OF/1b/3B with no natural position on a bad deal?

You guys still wouldn’t want Syndergaard if the cost was Myers/Hedges/Stammen/Quantrill?

 

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 14, 2018, 5:55 pm

Appearantely some here think we van win it all with Lauer Lucchesi and Nix going against Strasburgh Scherzer and Corbin in the NLCS in the next 3 4 5 yrs...

 

Lets just hoard all of our prospects watch their value diminish and enjoy the ONE or TWO that maybe become All Stars or hell even regular players at the MLB level which are about the odds for our 10 top 100 prospects......

The time is now to trade some of those chips for proven 3+ yrs controlled MLB level assets...and try to ID the 2 (studs in our top 10 that are must keeps)...a...and improve our MLB club and our odds ..

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 14, 2018, 6:50 pm

Padres showing interest in Dallas Kuechel.

At least he wouldn’t cost us any prospects.

What would be a Decent contract for him?

4/70?

 

Quote from fenn68 on December 14, 2018, 7:20 pm

Quote from David Nevin on December 14, 2018, 6:50 pm

Padres showing interest in Dallas Kuechel.

At least he wouldn’t cost us any prospects.

What would be a Decent contract for him?

4/70?

 

MLBTradeRumors has him at $82MM / 4 years which seems reasonable for a soon to be 31 year old with his track record. Scott Boras is his agent ... so the current ask (both years and AAV) is much higher.

I seems that would fit the Padres target timeline (4 years) and they can handle the AAV of $20MM for a top of the rotation SP. Adding a 5th year likely would get it done: $100MM/5 years.

He is a soft contact guy and should do well with a plus defense ... and a Hosmer - Urias - Tatis INF should work well for him then the 3B better consider plus defense. Allows the Padres to ease into the top SP prospects slower sorting out the real top prospects from the very good and using some for trade chips.

I could be a good signing (if at that level). Boras seems to like the Padres future (Hosmer was his guy) and Hedges plus some minor league guys are his. Likely he would be comfortable with a Padres signing for his client. Could work. Long shot I guess.

Quote from Cptjack on December 14, 2018, 7:29 pm

Quote from David Nevin on December 14, 2018, 5:47 pm

What if the deal is centered around an injury prone Corner OF/1b/3B with no natural position on a bad deal?

You guys still wouldn’t want Syndergaard if the cost was Myers/Hedges/Stammen/Quantrill?

Entirely different discussion. You're now talking about moving a net neutral or net negative asset in Myers and a no future value guy in Stammen.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 14, 2018, 5:55 pm

Apparently some here think we van win it all with Lauer Lucchesi and Nix going against Strasburgh Scherzer and Corbin in the NLCS in the next 3 4 5 yrs...

Who thinks that? And who thinks we'll be playing the ancient Nationals rotation in 3, 4, 5 years?

Quote from fenn68 on December 14, 2018, 7:29 pm

I have to go back on the Syndergaard discussion ... why would the Mets give up 4.2 of current WAR for prospects while not replacing (and increasing) the expected WAR for 2019 ... they did not just deal for Cano to not compete.

Padres just don't have the trade chips to improve the 2019 Mets. the NYM-Mia-SD had some logic but does not look as though Mia would settle for less than ML / ML ready impact pieces ... and the Padres don't have enough of those (especially since it appears Mia is fixated on hitters).

Keuchel is possible (it is only money) but IF they want to pursue front of the rotation current talent ... the Padres need to dangle those prospect in front of non-contenders (e.g. AZ and Greinke)