Quote from fenn68 on February 23, 2019, 8:09 am

In the 1% chance that Harper does end up a Padre ... Padres have to make a call on Myers, Renfroe, Reyes, Cordero ... and need to consider what other teams are willing to do for each (if anything) and since Cordero, Reyes, and Renfroe have minor league options Padres don't HAVE to make a deal ... but odds are they would.

Cordero is "easy" ... option to AAA and work him in CF to work on defense and hitting LHP. Then, it gets tricky in finding a team that actually would trade for one of the others ... give the best return ... and leave the best option in LF for the Padres.

Preller has been trying to gauge interest in the corner OF all winter ... so likely has a pretty good sense of who would be in and at what level. A factor is how much less of a player return would they take for Myers to move his entire contract (eating a big chunk really is not that helpful). Actually for all three, how much would Preller drop his asking price to make a move?

Would think Renfroe is the easiest to trade and would yield the best return big low cost / long control. He sells power and average defense / base running for a corner OF. Poor OBP is his main shortcoming.

Reyes just has not shown enough in the ML ... potentially the best hitter of the bunch but worst defensively / baserunner ... hard fit given the limited number of teams really looking for that profile (DH type).

Myers ... tough to move that contract ... but actually I think he may produce the best WAR of the three in 2019 since his defense / base running is better than the other two .... OBP is better than Renfroe and keep in mind that he hit with power in his two full season yielding HR in the upper 20s. Bat his ahead of Harper - Machado - Hosmer and he should get a lot of pithes to hit.

Still a 1% scenario ... but

Quote from fenn68 on February 23, 2019, 8:12 am

Quote from David Nevin on February 23, 2019, 7:52 am

I wonder if Harper wants to play in S.D. so much(or not in Philly so much) that he'd take a 3/100 type deal?

Or is having the highest deal in history that important to him?

 

Life security with guaranteed money is ... so really doubt any short term scenario works. Sort of the same logic of Machado taking $300/10 guaranteed over CWS' lower guaranteed but with incentives to potentially earning greater than $300MM.

At that level always take the guaranteed and leave the risk on the table of the team.

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 23, 2019, 8:13 am

I know he said no to short term deals but things may have changed now that Machado is in SD.

Doubtful....but still.

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 23, 2019, 9:07 am

Oops!

They won’t admit it but the White Sox acquired Yonder Alonso and Jon Jay to help their chances of getting Machado.

But instead it backfired.

Both told Machado how great it was to play in San Diego!

lol

 

Quote from Cptjack on February 23, 2019, 12:10 pm

Quote from fenn68 on February 23, 2019, 8:09 am

Myers ... tough to move that contract ... but actually I think he may produce the best WAR of the three in 2019 since his defense / base running is better than the other two .... OBP is better than Renfroe and keep in mind that he hit with power in his two full season yielding HR in the upper 20s. Bat his ahead of Harper - Machado - Hosmer and he should get a lot of pithes to hit.

Still a 1% scenario ... but

Isn't his contract the going rate right now? The only tough thing will not be getting anything back for Trea Turner.

Quote from fenn68 on February 23, 2019, 1:44 pm

Quote from Cptjack on February 23, 2019, 12:10 pm

Quote from fenn68 on February 23, 2019, 8:09 am

Myers ... tough to move that contract ... but actually I think he may produce the best WAR of the three in 2019 since his defense / base running is better than the other two .... OBP is better than Renfroe and keep in mind that he hit with power in his two full season yielding HR in the upper 20s. Bat his ahead of Harper - Machado - Hosmer and he should get a lot of pithes to hit.

Still a 1% scenario ... but

Isn't his contract the going rate right now? The only tough thing will not be getting anything back for Trea Turner.

Myers deal is still $64MM/4 years (cash) ... Pollack signed this winter for $55MM/4 years. Can argue that Pollack is currently better .... so if another team wanted to add that profile of an OF at Myers price tag had room to outbid LAD for Pollack.

At this stage, see only two teams that MIGHT deal for Myers (and his contract) .... SF and PHIL (if they don't sign Harper). Both have money and a need. Cleveland has the big need to contend but the $20MM/year after this season a problem financially. Since Myers is only $3MM cash in 2019 ... and may be the better all around player for LF than the others ... playing him may increase in trade options next winter (or even the trade deadline).

I have more optimism about Myers than most IF they just put him in LF and leave him alone ... let him bat ahead of Machado and Hosmer ... and keep him out of the media spotlight. He had 2016 and 2017 when he played almost every game and hit with power.

Better chance of dealing Renfroe and getting a fair return.

Quote from Booster SD on February 23, 2019, 2:02 pm

The issue with Myers, besides the health and staying on the field is not the necessarily the amount of money its the money per year. I think many on here agree, that if healthy Myers has the best ability of that of Myers, Renfroe, and Reyes. Since Machado is here on 2 5 year contracts in essence, why dont we resturcuture Myers contract and take it out to 5 years. I think by CBA requirements it would have to go to a bigger value, but not by much, but just enough so that we can reduce the yearly commitment enough to more comfortably sign Harper and still have money going forward.

Quote from fenn68 on February 24, 2019, 6:30 am

Sounding as though that the odds are Harper to PHIL by Monday on a 10 year deal ... of course until it happens it is still just rumor.

The recent MLBTradeRumors note is that the Padres are in play for Harper and they are not working on signing Keuchel ... does not fit into their plans. I suspect that is more of a comment that his contract does not fit into their plans since at last rumored sits at 4+ years and $25MM/year. He frankly too old with declining peripherals to warrant that long a deal. However, if Harper goes to PHIL for big money and that knocks them out of the hunt for Keuchel ... not sure who else is in play (except Houston) but SHOULD lower his demands ... maybe that makes him fit the Padres plans. As I recall he is a soft contact groundball pitcher and the Padres are on the verge of the best defensive INF in MLB ... skills fit if the contract works ... the need is there.

Quote from fenn68 on February 24, 2019, 6:50 am

Time for some unbridled optimism ... Padres Wild Card in 2019?

Sure a lot ... A LOT ... has to fall in place with the SP and the readiness of Tatis / Urias to get the Padres a representative team BUT making the last Wild Card is just about getting the more wins that the other teams ... and there is an odd chance that the other teams (even if they are better than the Padres) don't pick up enough wins. Why?

NL EAST has ATL, NYM, PHIL, and WASH all strong but none proven dominant and have a very good chance of laying a lot of losses one each other moving the teams not winning the Division towards .500.

NL CENTRAL has MILW, STL, CUBS, PITT (who was around .500 last season), and CINN (who with the new adds of Kemp / Puig to go with Votto, Gennett, Suarez, will produce a powerful offense at HOME plus they added some serviceable SP will be capable of contending at least at Home). Same as the EAST .... a lot of bumping each other off sending the non winner of the CENTRAL toward .500.

NL WEST has the old, injury filled SF with no OF, AZ without Pollack, Goldschmidt, Corbin potentially ceding a lot of wins to the Padres ... Colorado is not dominate and just made Wild Card last year. Add that if Kershaw's injury is a  long term problem, LAD could leave a lot of wins on the table (still should win the WEST).

So, again with pure optimism, if the Padres could run a game or two above .500 they actually could be in the Wild Card hunt. Vegas has them (give or take) at 78 wins ... so might not take much (key add or faster development of a couple of prospects) that gets them in.