Quote from MrPadre19 on February 22, 2019, 4:10 pm

They also don’t have to get it all back....let alone all back right away.

Winning cures all.

Make the playoffs in 2020 and Manny will pay for himself.

 

Quote from Notmyopic on February 22, 2019, 5:04 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on February 22, 2019, 2:40 pm

I think there is a lot of room between questioning his reports and saying he's a psyops cultist who should be ignored whenever he says anything Boras related. I think questioning what he says is perfectly fair given. I question some of what he says too. In this particular case I'm willing to believe him. Given what we know and some of the rumors we've heard I think it would be irresponsible for ownership not to sit down and talk about Harper even if it's just to say "hey there's no way we can do this right?" as part of a larger meeting.

Also I just saw that Peter Seidler got interviewed on 1090 and got asked specifically about Heyman's tweet on their interest in Harper. He basically called it a long shot, but said they aren't ruling anything out. The part on Harper starts just before the 10 minute mark.

https://www.mighty1090.com/episode/peter-seidler-every-molecule-in-me-felt-this-was-great-for-us/

If you actually think I think he is in a Boris cult, or conducting a psyop instead of being hyperbolic, I don't know what to tell you.

Quote from 3fingersplit on February 22, 2019, 5:28 pm

I think the longer Bryce Harper remains unsigned the better off for the Padres chances. A meeting to discuss where the Padres were last week versus where they are today versus where they might be next week and beyond , including club payroll versus projected revenue over the next 1-5 years and 6-10 years with the likes of Tatis, Urias and the slew of young pitchers along with a FA starting pitcher, ie; Kevin Brown type, changing the payroll.

The happy zone for payroll is between 145 to 155 million per year from what I heard and that's the plan going forward so......could the Friars pull off a deal with Harper ?

At this point nothing would surprise me 😉

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 22, 2019, 6:30 pm

Phillies owner is in Las Vegas.

Probably signaling  Harper about to sign.

 

Quote from 3fingersplit on February 22, 2019, 6:51 pm

Quote from David Nevin on February 22, 2019, 6:30 pm

Phillies owner is in Las Vegas.

Probably signaling  Harper about to sign.

 

Last pitch to get him inked

Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 23, 2019, 12:27 am

I have a feeling Harper will be a Padre by Monday.... I think ownership got a taste the other day when it signed Machado and the ticket sales site broke.... With no other pro team in town and a young and 2 STAR studed team in town is very likely this team avgs 30,000 per game .. All in say on avg $100 per..thats $270,000,000.... Not even counting TV and Corp Sponsors..etc.. and if they start winning and being relevant could even bump it up to 32-35k per game... Every +1000 = $8.1 mil or so in extra revenue per season...

Quote from fenn68 on February 23, 2019, 5:32 am

On Harper, the ball is in Boras' court and his minimum demand and contract creativity.

Despite all the rumors with other teams still in ... seeming only PHIL is focused but are not willing to bid against themselves plus if you recall they were out on Machado once the contract exceed their valuation ... if they use the same logic they may cap themselves out of the bidding to a more aggressive team .. one we are still searching for.

That would open the door for the Padres IF Boras got creative. He has in the past, consider he is the agent for Scherzer and Strasburg and their deals are really strategically shaped:

Scherzer: Bonus of $50MM (paid $5MM year 1 then $15MM in years 5, 6, 7); Salary cash flow of $10MM - 15 - 15 - 15 - 35 - 35 - 35. Put those together and cash flow goes $15 - 15 - 15 - 15 - 50 - 50 - 50.

Strasburg: $25 - 15 -15 - 35 - 25 - 15 - 15 then $70 deferred and paid in at $10MM/year 2024 - 2030.

Given those Boras deals ... a very good templet for a cash flow that fits the Padres' needs ... e.g. low in 2019-20 ... bump up 2021-22 (Olivera - Richards - Kinsler out opening up space) .... jump again starting in 2023 (Myers out and likely Hosmer opts out). Note that Strasburg has deferred money (so Boras is OK with it) but did hear that the Padres don't like going that route.

So, the scenario is set-up so that there is a chance it could work. Underlying though would be the Padres make their big gamble on their prospect SP developing.

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 23, 2019, 6:34 am

Would Hosmer really opt out?

Unless he far outperforms his contract I can't see him getting a better deal.

Concerning Harper.....I was thinking,Machado mentioned his wife(isn't she from S.D.?) wanting to be in San Diego and Mrs. Harper probably does too.

Bryce would never mention it but it's quite possible his wife is putting heat on him to "not" move them to Philly.

To what level does her input have who knows...but happy wife /happy life is a saying for a reason.

But if we just can't get anywhere close then she's just gonna have to learn to love Philadelphia I suppose...:)

 

 

 

Quote from fenn68 on February 23, 2019, 7:49 am

Hosmer's opt out is at the point when his salary DROPS down to $13MM per year for the following 3 years ... and Boras is his agent. In 2023 could Hosmer do better than $39MM/3 years ... probably ... but even if he does not a $13MM salary in 2023-2025 is not a major hurdle for the Padres.

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The contract is still the main issue but "if close" am getting the sense that going to PHIL is not high on the Harper wish list. "If close" has to be an evaluation by Boras given the structure of cash flow, deferred money, opt outs, no trade options surrounding the dollars / years.

Not sure if this works for the Padres but a $330MM/11 year deal cash flowed: 15-15-25-25-40 (for the last 7 years) will give Boras/Harper the largest contract. For the Padres they get room in the first 4 years to keep they payroll under $130MM. (note: maybe $150MM is the level eventually, but no indication that is were they will be near term ... plus some theoretical wiggle room if they need trade deadline adds in a pennant run).