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Quote from MrPadre19 on November 23, 2020, 3:48 pm

Could you imagine Renfroe in Boston with that Green Monster?

Much like Hedges,if he could just hit .240/.300/450 he would be extremely valuable for his defense and power.

But instead I just don’t see him back in SD.

I just can’t see us bringing in anyone that can’t at least produce a .330 OBP.

 

 

I think if he were in Boston, it would make him try to pull everything even MORE and his strikeout rate would INCREASE. He would have to go to a team that lives and dies by the home run because he is just a rally killer with his strikeouts in the middle of the lineup. Just sayin . . .

Padres released Perdomo after the DFA.  Sure they're $ responsible for the $ cost associated with his TJ rehab, but not sure where he actually does that rehab without a team?   Best of luck to Luis.  Proved he belonged in MLB as a Rule 5 guy, and can be dominant when he's "on".  Hope to see him land on his feet in 2022 & work his way back to MLB somewhere.

Quote from Brian Connelly on November 24, 2020, 8:24 am

Padres released Perdomo after the DFA.  Sure they're $ responsible for the $ cost associated with his TJ rehab, but not sure where he actually does that rehab without a team?   Best of luck to Luis.  Proved he belonged in MLB as a Rule 5 guy, and can be dominant when he's "on".  Hope to see him land on his feet in 2022 & work his way back to MLB somewhere.

Expect the medical costs to be covered by insurance plans that the Padres pay into every year.

Not sure where Perdomo lives ... but think the Dominican Republic and they have facilities to monitor his recovery ... and exercise routine early after TJ. Expect some combo of his agent and MLBPA to give him the needed support.

 

Just saw on MLBTR that the Reds are open to offers on Sonny Gray. Since they are a playoff team as well, the return would need to be players that could keep them in the playoff hunt for the next couple of seasons. Also, looking at their offseason review per MLBTR, cant really asses what their needs would be, besides looking to reduce payroll, the reason for possibly moving Gray.

Wouldn't Gray be better than Paddock?  CINN is possibly going to non tender Brian Goodwin. They could use some bullpen help.

Maybe something in the lines of Gray and Goodwin, for Paddock, Luchessi, P. Johnson, and Pham. Then they could decide what to do with Pham. P. Johnson is $2M next season, and Pham is $8M. For 2021 Goodwin is $3M and Gray is $10.5. Thats $3.5M for a really nice upgrade at the top of the rotation, and Gray is under control for 2022 at $10.5M, and 2023 for $12M. Still leaving us about $12M give or take to get Rosenthal back, and sign Pilar, and a couple other bench players.

Or SD and CINN could do Gray for Paddock, Luchessi, and P. Johnson and leave out Goodwin and Pham. Then SD could non tender Pham, and basically you have Gray for about $.5M for 2021 with the $2M from Johnson and the $8M for Pham. Leaving about $15M to resign Profar, Rosenthal, and a couple additional bench players, still think Pilar and Galvis are two great fits for the bench in SD.

Renato Nuñez cut from the 40 man in Baltimore?

I don’t get this at all but maybe that’s why Balt is Balt.?

27 years old and has led their team 2 years straight in HR and had an .810 OPS last season.

It would seem a team like the O’s would let Chris Davis go and keep a guy like this?

My only guess is they work a trade for him.....

 

Looks as though teams are beginning to throw out some bait to see who will bite big. TB suggesting Snell may be available needing to lower payroll, CINN suggesting that Gray may be available needing to lower payroll, HOUSTON suggesting Correa may be available.

Maybe a need to lower payroll or maybe a view that the need for quality by teams will not be met in this year’s FA market at a justifiable price ... so these names (at their price) become a real value that will yield some top prospect returns.

Not likely those teams are “trying” to trade these guys to the highest bidder but would trade them for the compelling return.

Think a Gore / Campusano demand ... at least 2 Top 100 types and near ML ready.

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Side on Paddack .. probably not the level of trade value we would hope .... only 4 years control and into arbitration years while coming off a less than stellar 2020 and a number of reports the Padres are trying to “fix” his mechanics. That is not going to make him the center piece of a deal for an All-Star level player with multi-year control on a good contract.

Quote from MrPadre19 on November 24, 2020, 9:39 am

Renato Nuñez cut from the 40 man in Baltimore?

I don’t get this at all but maybe that’s why Balt is Balt.?

27 years old and has led their team 2 years straight in HR and had an .810 OPS last season.

It would seem a team like the O’s would let Chris Davis go and keep a guy like this?

My only guess is they work a trade for him.....

 

Money. He is an OK hitter but a bad fielder at 3B/1B and would get maybe $2-3MM in arbitration. A non-tender candidate. DFA him now and see if some team(s) claim him and get something maybe.

Davis is on a guaranteed contract ... so save no money by cutting him.

DFA of Nunez is paying part of Davis’ contract .... unintended impact of log term deals gone bad.

Quote from fenn68 on November 24, 2020, 10:58 am
Quote from MrPadre19 on November 24, 2020, 9:39 am

Renato Nuñez cut from the 40 man in Baltimore?

I don’t get this at all but maybe that’s why Balt is Balt.?

27 years old and has led their team 2 years straight in HR and had an .810 OPS last season.

It would seem a team like the O’s would let Chris Davis go and keep a guy like this?

My only guess is they work a trade for him.....

 

Money. He is an OK hitter but a bad fielder at 3B/1B and would get maybe $2-3MM in arbitration. A non-tender candidate. DFA him now and see if some team(s) claim him and get something maybe.

Davis is on a guaranteed contract ... so save no money by cutting him.

DFA of Nunez is paying part of Davis’ contract .... unintended impact of log term deals gone bad.

Nunez has been released.  No takers.  A lot of risk in his wide arb projection range of 2.1 MM to 3.9 MM.  If you split this difference, say it winds up at 3.0 MM and no one was interested, this is who Greg Garcia is competing against.  For < 3 MM...

26 y.o. RH (better fit for Pads ) 3B/1B.  2019 splits vs LHP:  200 AB  .270 / .326 / .510 (!)  In 2020 he had reverse splits, but only 41 AB vs LHP.  Potential Ty France replacement to take some of Hosmer's AB vs LHP (2019:  156 AB  .231 / .280 / .321)?  Esp if DH is back...

... with a guy like this, if you negotiate a 1 yr deal, you do still control him into next year (& beyond) arbitration, correct?  So a lower salary this year would also potentially/likely dampen his future arb salaries?

Think you are right ... even if he signs a one year contract .... the signing team will control him until he hits the 6 year mark via arbitration.

Have no idea how an arbitrator would interpret that in subsequent arbitrations .... looking at his numbers vs. “market”.

Makes some sense for the Padres ... at least his bat as a RHH. Would open a question as to the back-up middle INF if they released Garcia. Only Mateo on the 40 man and hard pressed to call out anyone from AAA/AA rosters. If they signed him, more likely for the bat to fill out the bench with Allen, Mateo, Garcia, and Mejia ... Ona / Campusano to the minors. (Side: I am not at all interested in Nola going to 2B for any extended time even if he was an INF in the minors ... paid a lot for him as the #1 catcher and he needs to deliver in that role).

Looks like a real money squeeze on those bench types and mid-range players by financially strapped clubs .... first CLEV DFA Hand who clears waivers ... TB DFA Renfroe and declines the option on Morton (who signs with ATL for the same amount as his TB option) .... BALT DFA Nunez who clears waivers.

Looking like some interesting names potentially non-tendered.

ATL seems to be on a different page with the signings of Morton ($15MM) and Smyly ($11MM?) using their past playbook of swoop in early on one year deals. Worked with Donaldson and Ozuna ... not so much with Hamels.