Quote from fenn68 on December 19, 2020, 10:57 am

Makes some sense ... the AZ facility can handle the larger number as in the past ... the new draft class may not even show up given the draft pushed back to July ... and a lost 2020. The “extra” 35 +/- plus maybe some additional coaches may cost about $1MM considering everything over the 5-6 months.

2021 ... at a minimum ... can refresh the analysis of the prospects heading into 2022. Might cut back in future years but for now probably a wise idea.

Quote from fenn68 on December 19, 2020, 11:03 am

BA has Elliott Ashbeck (RHP, AA) voluntarily retiring.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 20, 2020, 2:00 pm

So is the rotation at San Antonio going to include Gore-Patiño-Weathers-Morejon?

Or will any of them be in AAA do you think?

Or in the ML bullpen?

Assuming of course they aren’t in the Opening day rotation.

I just hope, as usual,these top arms avoid AAA altogether.

 

Quote from fenn68 on December 20, 2020, 2:53 pm

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 20, 2020, 2:00 pm

So is the rotation at San Antonio going to include Gore-Patiño-Weathers-Morejon?

Or will any of them be in AAA do you think?

Or in the ML bullpen?

Assuming of course they aren’t in the Opening day rotation.

I just hope, as usual,these top arms avoid AAA altogether.

 

I agree with you on keeping them out of El Paso. Preller has said a number of times he wants them to develop as starters so baring a sequence of injuries in the pen ... probably not there.

So, ML starter or AA starter likely ... at least that is how I would handle it.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 20, 2020, 5:05 pm

I feel sorry for the offenses they will be facing!

 

Quote from Ben Davey on December 23, 2020, 8:24 am

Listening to the MLB Pipeline Podcast this morning, they were discussing the 2018 draft and reminding us that the January prior to the draft there were 3 consensus first round high school pitchers from Georgia.

#1: Ethan Hankins (1st round pick, currently top 10 prospect with Indians)

#3: Kumar Rocker (current #1 draft prospect for next years draft)

 

and #2.... Cole Wilcox.  Not a bad reminder of how good many people thought (and still think) Wilcox will be.

Quote from Ben Davey on December 23, 2020, 8:42 am

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 20, 2020, 2:00 pm

So is the rotation at San Antonio going to include Gore-Patiño-Weathers-Morejon?

Or will any of them be in AAA do you think?

Or in the ML bullpen?

Assuming of course they aren’t in the Opening day rotation.

I just hope, as usual,these top arms avoid AAA altogether.

 

I dont see Morejon in the minors.  Considering how well he pitched in the majors and playoffs last year I have to imagine he isnt going down.

If I am the Padres (which clearly I am), if Lamet is going to miss considerable time (and Clev is already out).  Why not see what you have in the prospects?  As Padre fans would anyone be upset if the OD rotation was some combo of Davies-Morejon-Gore-Patino-Paddack.  You know Gore/Patino/Morejon will have some growing pains and might end up with a 4.5 ERA but that's why you give them experience now so in 2022 they are ready to breakout.  Plus if they do pitch like we know they can, that can be a playoff caliber rotation even without our two aces.

Quote from Randy Manese on December 23, 2020, 9:42 am

On talent alone, it is generally acknowledged in the baseball world that the troika of Gore, Patino and Morejon have TOR abilities.  The problem is that only one, Gore, has even pitched 100 innings and Morejon has never gone over 65 innings in an entire season.  Such a rotation would have a domino effect on the bullpen, who already will have to bail out Davies and Paddack should they falter before getting in 6 innings.

IF we don't pick up another starter and IF there is a season that might be a little shorter than 162 games, I think it is possible to incorporate your proposal but with a little more of a safety net considering the lack of experience. Let's say we have Morejon as the 5th starter and give him those extra days off when a 5th starter is not needed.  I am still counting on Lamet and Lucchesi for possible 1/2 time or more availability.  This would allow spot starts by Gore and Patino for as long as they have to be up or down on MLB or MiLB roster; may end up with two back to back starts on occasion.  Strange as it may seem Lamet, Lucchesi, Gore and Patino all have options available, so let's see who is healthy first and then see who is getting better and better with experience and go from there.

I'm looking forward to the day when all 3 of these pitchers are healthy and in the rotation.  With Lamet, I think that kind of rotation if it develops as many think, can give the Dodgers a run for the money.

Quote from Ben Davey on December 23, 2020, 9:50 pm

I dont expect Patino/Gore/Morejon to pitch 200+ innings, which is why having a Lucchesi or Michel Baez (remember he was a top 100 prospect) would be important.  I am sure they will pick up someone like Cole Hamels who can help mentor the young ones while soaking up innings (Again this is under the assumption that both Clev and Lamet are out).

The one thing I dont want to see is those 3 spend a majority of the year in the minors and then enter 2022 with virtually no MLB experience.