Quote from fenn68 on February 6, 2019, 2:51 pm

Quote from David Nevin on February 6, 2019, 9:27 am

I "really" don't like the three batter minimum idea.

 

For those who like "strategy" .... this could add a lot of intrigue in a manager's decisions.

Now just load up a the max of RP and it does not take much decision making to bring in a LH specialist to get a LHH who can't hit LHP out then get him out of the game. IF the next three hitters are LH - RH - LH (or some similar combo) the manager now really has to sweat on bringing in the LH specialist or no one or go RHP believe he can get the LHH.

Add that NOT having the favorable pitching match-up for each batter ... more offense / more baserunners / more action .... which is not a bad thing. And yes helps pace of play.

An alternative have a roster limitation to 12 pitchers and any minor league options / fantom DL stints needs to be greater than 10 days (e.g. 15) again putting pressure on the manager to make challenging decisions on how to use his limited staff.

 

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 7, 2019, 9:43 am

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlbs-best-player-at-each-uniform-number-from-no-1-ozzie-smith-to-no-99-manny-ramirez-and-every-digit-in-between/

 

Robin Yount ahead of Tony Gwynn?

Roger Clemens ahead of Roberto Clemente?

 

Quote from 3fingersplit on February 7, 2019, 12:35 pm

Just in

Frank Robinson passed away

https://www.mlb.com/news/frank-robinson-dies/c-303656538

Quote from 3fingersplit on February 7, 2019, 12:36 pm

Also

Phillies trade for Realmuto

https://www.mlb.com/news/jt-realmuto-phillies-marlins-trade/c-303642694?tid=282421090

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 7, 2019, 2:51 pm

Am I the only one who thinks the Marlins would have got a better deal from the Padres if they had let us negotiate an extension with him first?

I’m not that high on Alfaro and Sanchez is good but I suspect he will end up a late inning reliever.

 

Quote from dusty on February 7, 2019, 4:02 pm

I guess it really probably came down to which catcher the Marlins wanted and which second and third piece they wanted as well. I personally don’t think the international bonus pool money was that big of a deal. How much do the Marlins really value Sanchez because the dude is a borderline top 25 prospect right now and if they weren’t as high on Mejía as reports suggested, then they were probably looking at Hedges plus one of Morejon/Paddack + someone like Oliveras? In my opinion, padres would have wanted an extension to make that deal and would have wanted the peace of mind of a signed contract from Harper/Machado. I really think the Marlins pushing the envelope to get it deal by end of day tomorrow really hurt the Padres.

 

Quote from 84padres on February 7, 2019, 4:38 pm

Quote from fenn68 on February 6, 2019, 8:14 am

The exchanged ideas for the Union and the owners is interesting (and I like a lot of them). Some could be in place for 2019 (probably not the DH) and some in 2020.

Should keep in mind the is a negotiation since some "benefit" the Union and some "benefit" the owners ... so impossible to cherry pick .. getting one may be dependent on another being approved. All have costs and consequences.

Then there is always the unintended consequences ... always a surprise on how teams change to changes.

Probably all tied together is the increase the active roster to 26 but reducing the September active roster 28 ... plus requiring a pitcher to pitch to 3 batter minimum and reducing mound visits to 3.

Does the 3 batter minimum kill the "value" of LHRP specialists or reduce the need for 13 pitchers? Meanwhile, does moving the active roster to 26 if there is a lesser need for RP promote more platooning LH/RH and would that result in more offense? Would the "extra" 1 or 2 position players (think PH) allow for more favorable match-ups for the offense ... and more offense? Would a 26 active roster reduce the players put on the DL for either short term (or fantom) injuries (maybe returning the DL to 15 days to curb gaming)?

A lot of ideas that would significantly improve the pace of play ... add offense ... add reduce some financial gaming by the teams.

Hopefully some will come to happen.

I am in on all of the proposals.DH, 3 batter min , 26 man roster and 28 man Sept max. I would like the DL to go back to 15 days to stop teams from shuffling pitchers on and off

Quote from fenn68 on February 8, 2019, 9:55 am

I am viewing the Realmuto deal as a window into MLB teams' valuation process with the NEW GMs and higher analytics focusing on longer term "value" and economics. Different than most of us are accustomed to seeing and might have to alter our projection of trades (and their returns).

Realmuto by most consensus is the best all around catcher in baseball balancing offense and defense ... under control for 2 years (ages 28-29 setting in a peak performance window) ... in arbitration so the cost for that level of talent is under market. In the past he would profile as a big time target for a contender who would pay the price in elite prospects. That did not play out.

Yes, Miami initially asked too much for everyone but in the end LAD, HOU, CINN, PHIL, and SD seemed most interested. Yet with that apparent competition for the top MLB catcher the best deal MIA could get is with PHIL for Alfaro (5 years of a former Top 100 whose offense based on power and strikeouts), Sanchez (a Top 100 whose minor league career has been beset by injures .. high risk), and an A ball pitcher selected in the 18th round plus the $250K international money. Far cry for the "show piece" players being bandied about: Senzel; Verdugo; et. al.

Other teams COULD have bid higher but chose not to which to me says more about how the GMs value the upside (and are willing to take the risk) their own top prospects developing into low cost, 6 year control assets over short term gratification.

On the reverse for the Padres this change in valuation think likely will be a much lower (and unsatisfying to the fans) returns for any of the 24 man roster players Preller chooses to deal. Preller does deploy the better strategy of deep diving for upside returns down in low A - Rookie - DSL rather than settle for a more mediocre return of payers in the upper levels. Worked for Tatis, Ruiz, Paddack, Naylor and a few others.

Quote from MrPadre19 on February 9, 2019, 6:04 am

I heard an eye popping stat yesterday....The Miami Marlins top "twelve" players in WAR in the history of their franchise have ALL been traded away.