Quote from WindsorUK on October 17, 2019, 5:13 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on October 17, 2019, 4:46 pm

Newspeople make up the news nowadays. I doubt anybody told any reporter who the favorite is. They make guesses from the information that is available, just like us. I can't say that I am surprised. Preller is making the hire. He is going to want to get somebody who does things his way. Since he basically trained Tingler in his style, it only makes sense that Tingler would be his choice.

Unfortunately, AG was his guy.

We see how that turned out.

Has Tingle EVER managed anywhere in the majors or coached at the big league level? If not, might have a hard time getting vets( read: Machado, Hosmer, Yates) to support him( they weren't too supportive of how AJ used San Diego as a training ground for players. How will they think about using it as a training ground for managers?)

Here's hoping Washington gets the nod..... unless they secretly want Girardi😉

Quote from fenn68 on October 17, 2019, 5:55 pm

I think Heyman was saying that people around baseball believe Tingler will get the nod ... was not saying he had any insight from the Padres (who have been really tight lipped about what they feel).

Not sure why some think this will be just Preller’s hire and not be “approved” by Fowler and Siedler? Both Washington and Tingler have had the second round interviews with Fowler / Siedler and unless they confirm the Preller recommendation ... Preller’s recommendation will not get the job. Actually it is Fowler is the owner that is most involved in running the club and is not the kind of guy that will just let his employee make the call (again). He certainly has been vocal.

Also, not sure that I have heard first hand from the Padres they wanted a veteran ML manager. A lot of that commentary has come from secondary sources (such as Acee). I have heard “experienced” (but exactly what experience is a grey area) ... “presence in the clubhouse” (every can only speculate on any candidate have that presence). So you have the media on one hand ... but the Padres have only really interviewed Washington who is that veteran ML manager (yes, they interviewed Asmus but he is not that veteran). No Girardi, no Maddon, no Showalter, no Baker, no Matheny, Maybe the Padres’ actions speak louder than media words?

Can only speculate that Tingler would be bad and Washington good ... but could be just the opposite. Never know .. Washington may be a Casey Stengel managing the Mets. Then rising from the past is a report that a segment of the Padres front office still wants Bochy.

At least with both (and unlike Green) ... Preller knows and has worked with both ... so should help the decision on the better choice.

Quote from TatisJr on October 17, 2019, 6:45 pm

This feels a lot like a few years ago when Andy was hired. I remember the reported  final 2 candidates were Ron Gardenhire the experienced candidate and the young inexperienced Andy Green. AJP made the wrong choice then and I hope he doesn’t do the same here. I remember I wanted Doc named the interim manager and they went with Murphy which didn’t work either.  AJP really can’t afford to botch this hire. I’ll admit I don’t know a thing about Tingler, but I doubt the Padres players know much about him either. How does Tingler command respect? I’ve seen people list that Martinez,Shildt, Hinch and Boone as inexperienced managers seeing success in 2019, but all 4 have way more experience and name recognition than Tingler. Martinez was a former ML player, a bench coach for years under Joe Maddon and Dusty Baker and was groomed for years to be a manger. Shildt worked as a scout, a minor league hitting instructor, managed at all 3 minor league levels before becoming a ML coach and eventually became a manger. He had plenty of experience with Cards young players. Boone was a former all star as a player, came from well-known baseball family with ML managing experience and he was an analyst for years before getting the Yanks job. Hinch was a former major league player, worked in front office, and managed in ML level. If Tingler is the hire I will be on board, but this feels like the risky wild move. Washington I think would be such a valuable hire for young guys development and I think Washington would immediately get the trust/respect of vets like Hosmer, Machado and Kirby.

Quote from Commie on October 17, 2019, 6:53 pm

Quote from WindsorUK on October 17, 2019, 5:13 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on October 17, 2019, 4:46 pm

Newspeople make up the news nowadays. I doubt anybody told any reporter who the favorite is. They make guesses from the information that is available, just like us. I can't say that I am surprised. Preller is making the hire. He is going to want to get somebody who does things his way. Since he basically trained Tingler in his style, it only makes sense that Tingler would be his choice.

Unfortunately, AG was his guy.

We see how that turned out.

Has Tingle EVER managed anywhere in the majors or coached at the big league level? If not, might have a hard time getting vets( read: Machado, Hosmer, Yates) to support him( they weren't too supportive of how AJ used San Diego as a training ground for players. How will they think about using it as a training ground for managers?)

Here's hoping Washington gets the nod..... unless they secretly want Girardi

I really think it is a mistake to hire a manager for this team right now without any big league experience of significance either as a player or coaching at least. Reminds me of Pat Murphy.

If the only other option is Wash, fine. I'd rather see Barajas or Ellis.  Side benefit of Washington is that he isn't another white male in an organization lacking in diversity now and historically. Same would be true of Barajas.

Quote from JasonE135 on October 17, 2019, 7:32 pm

My personal vote goes to Barajas. He is respected in the clubhouse and the team responds to him. Yes he is also a minority and speaks Spanish so he will be able to communicate with all of the awesome prospects we have coming up. He has also worked with them in the minors already so he obviously already knows how to get results from them. But it seems that the team wants to make a major change, more of a fire and brimstone type. I would guess that Preller wants his guy(Tingler) and ownership probably wants Washington. I don't think Barajas ever really had a chance.

Quote from fenn68 on October 17, 2019, 9:13 pm

Washington had a long (successful) run with Texas before it ended in 2014 .... gets great praise for his relationship with players and developing young players. All that would make me think the would be in demand by a lot of teams.

Then, a bit of reality sets in. In the past 5 years he has not secured a managerial spot and this year with 8 open slots .... he is only interviewing with the Padres.

So, why with his profile is not Washington a more sought after managerial candidate across MLB? Is he interviewing because Preller has a good relationship with him from his Texas days but that is it?

Maybe before we canonize Washington we take a breath and consider just because his past fits an image different than Green (or what we want to replace Green)  ... he may have some flaws that other ML organizations think are disqualifying.

As for Tingler ... have absolutely no idea good or bad ... not even worth speculation.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 17, 2019, 9:19 pm

Quote from WindsorUK on October 17, 2019, 5:13 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on October 17, 2019, 4:46 pm

Newspeople make up the news nowadays. I doubt anybody told any reporter who the favorite is. They make guesses from the information that is available, just like us. I can't say that I am surprised. Preller is making the hire. He is going to want to get somebody who does things his way. Since he basically trained Tingler in his style, it only makes sense that Tingler would be his choice.

Unfortunately, AG was his guy.

We see how that turned out.

Has Tingle EVER managed anywhere in the majors or coached at the big league level? If not, might have a hard time getting vets( read: Machado, Hosmer, Yates) to support him( they weren't too supportive of how AJ used San Diego as a training ground for players. How will they think about using it as a training ground for managers?)

Here's hoping Washington gets the nod..... unless they secretly want Girardi

Tingler has managed in the minors and in Winter leagues .. In fact Tingler has won Championships with every team he has managed...

 

2008 DSL Rangers manager .. 1st place

2009 DSL Rangers manager .. 1st place

2010 AZ Rangers manager ... 1st place

 

Dude has never been 2nd place.. Just stating facts.. As a Manager

Quote from TatisJr on October 17, 2019, 9:47 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 17, 2019, 9:19 pm

Quote from WindsorUK on October 17, 2019, 5:13 pm

Quote from JasonE135 on October 17, 2019, 4:46 pm

Newspeople make up the news nowadays. I doubt anybody told any reporter who the favorite is. They make guesses from the information that is available, just like us. I can't say that I am surprised. Preller is making the hire. He is going to want to get somebody who does things his way. Since he basically trained Tingler in his style, it only makes sense that Tingler would be his choice.

Unfortunately, AG was his guy.

We see how that turned out.

Has Tingle EVER managed anywhere in the majors or coached at the big league level? If not, might have a hard time getting vets( read: Machado, Hosmer, Yates) to support him( they weren't too supportive of how AJ used San Diego as a training ground for players. How will they think about using it as a training ground for managers?)

Here's hoping Washington gets the nod..... unless they secretly want Girardi

Tingler has managed in the minors and in Winter leagues .. In fact Tingler has won Championships with every team he has managed...

 

2008 DSL Rangers manager .. 1st place

2009 DSL Rangers manager .. 1st place

2010 AZ Rangers manager ... 1st place

 

Dude has never been 2nd place.. Just stating facts.. As a Manager

I doubt a clubhouse of major league ball players will be impressed by Dominican summer league championships from 10, 11 years ago. The fact is Tingler hasn’t managed the equivalent to a high class A team.

Quote from MrPadre19 on October 18, 2019, 3:17 am

Quote from JasonE135 on October 17, 2019, 7:32 pm

My personal vote goes to Barajas. He is respected in the clubhouse and the team responds to him. Yes he is also a minority and speaks Spanish so he will be able to communicate with all of the awesome prospects we have coming up. He has also worked with them in the minors already so he obviously already knows how to get results from them. But it seems that the team wants to make a major change, more of a fire and brimstone type. I would guess that Preller wants his guy(Tingler) and ownership probably wants Washington. I don't think Barajas ever really had a chance.

What do you base the fact that that the team responds to Barajas on?

Just curious......as there certainly wasn’t much life in this team when he took over.