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Quote from fenn68 on September 4, 2020, 10:54 am

Per Jeff Sanders:

RHP Justin Lange, the 34th overall pick in June, and catcher Blake Hunt have been added to the player pool working out at USD. Also told Jorge Oña has been there for some time and destroying baseballs.

Maybe he does become that option for a RHH LF?

That's awesome news!  There's a reason they paid him 7 MM (+ another 3+MM in penalty!).  Grisham & Cronenworth's emergence really transformed the OF logjam.  With LH in lineup @ CF & 2B, you "can" have a RH hitter in either or both corners.

Quote from Brian Connelly on September 4, 2020, 11:14 am
Quote from fenn68 on September 4, 2020, 10:54 am

Per Jeff Sanders:

RHP Justin Lange, the 34th overall pick in June, and catcher Blake Hunt have been added to the player pool working out at USD. Also told Jorge Oña has been there for some time and destroying baseballs.

Maybe he does become that option for a RHH LF?

That's awesome news!  There's a reason they paid him 7 MM (+ another 3+MM in penalty!).  Grisham & Cronenworth's emergence really transformed the OF logjam.  With LH in lineup @ CF & 2B, you "can" have a RH hitter in either or both corners.

Or DH looking towards 2021

The Padres have an unbelieveable # of players who could conceivably be added to Active roster before or during playoffs:

  • Pham
  • Austin Adams
  • Mejia
  • Pagan
  • Jose Castillo
  • Greg Allen (optioned 9/3)
  • Taylor Williams (optioned 9/2)
  • MAYBE Kirby Yates?
  • now Luis Campusano being talked about as possible...

That's 9 guys with 21 games left.  Obviously not ALL going to get there...

I think Adams & Pham are locks.  Both for bullpen arms, likely Morejon & Patino whose length should be needed much less.

Only way I see either C fitting is if it's before Pham is back.  There's not another position player who can be optioned.  Hard to believe they would add Campusano, but if they do, it will be sooner than later.  May be a cameo until Pham is back.

Think they should just option Jose Castillo down; hasn't really pitched in MLB in 2 years.  Pagan is the toughest call, may be based on how Altavilla & then Austin Adams do.

Greg Allen might be a playoff roster add.  Taylor Williams likely just depth & there to compete in ST next year.

Quote from Brian Connelly on September 4, 2020, 11:11 am
Quote from fenn68 on September 4, 2020, 10:36 am
Quote from Randy Manese on September 4, 2020, 9:49 am

Is Allen Cordoba still around?  It would be a wonderful story if he could bounce back from that tragic traffic accident a couple of years ago.  RH hitter and can play OF and INF.

Yep, still under Padre contract ... Rule 5 eligible unless he is clocking out of minor league control as a 6 year minor league FA (not sure how 2020 will count and how to consider 2 DSL and 2 Rookie ball seasons) ... but probably will not.

I always like his potential and a very good A+ season last season ... so his stock has to be on the ascend in the Padres structure as a versitile RHH.

Given the Padres have pretty much cleared out other Rule 5 prospects and a very large number of current roster options will be out of minor league options in 2021 ... may have a good chance to be added to the 40 man this winter. He may have a minor league option to go.

Given his history .... sure going to pulling for him.

It's possible... he was good enough to be picked & stick in R5, then his development got torpedoed by the bad car accident.

Based on his 2019 I had him in the low 20's range if still considered as a prospect, and that was before all the trades!

But I don't think after a good 2019 at High A, and lost 2020 season where he wasn't even added to the 60-man pool that he will be selected to MLB.  But he's an obvious candidate to re-sign as a Minors FA.  He should; OF & INF wide open at AAA/AA.

Cordoba is certainly on the margin with still some upside remaining. Doubt a ML candidate in 2021 realistically.

However, MIGHT get a 40 man slot as insurance against a Rule 5 selection (I know that is a long shot) given the dearth of RHH in the upper minors for the Padres. Thinking that the 40 man is not going to be loaded and if an issue ... can be DFA later.

With Profar a FA ... Mateo / Allen / Almonte / Garcia all without MiL options (and all will not make the 26 man roster out of ST) ... Moreland a maybe on picking up his option ... Padres may make an early call and DFA (let us Almonte) and add a Cordoba. Note: may have a similar issue with RP at some point .. clearly coming out of ST.

Basically, if the Padres "know" that combining the FA to be and a number of players that can't make the 26 next season (thus DFA) ... there has to be some housecleaning that results in a lot of open roster spots in ST ... get ahead of the game and make moves "earlier" if someone is better for the future. Logically before the winter meetings for both Rule 5 protection and maybe for FA signings / trades.

 

Quote from Brian Connelly on September 4, 2020, 11:30 am

The Padres have an unbelieveable # of players who could conceivably be added to Active roster before or during playoffs:

  • Pham
  • Austin Adams
  • Mejia
  • Pagan
  • Jose Castillo
  • Greg Allen (optioned 9/3)
  • Taylor Williams (optioned 9/2)
  • MAYBE Kirby Yates?
  • now Luis Campusano being talked about as possible...

That's 9 guys with 21 games left.  Obviously not ALL going to get there...

I think Adams & Pham are locks.  Both for bullpen arms, likely Morejon & Patino whose length should be needed much less.

Only way I see either C fitting is if it's before Pham is back.  There's not another position player who can be optioned.  Hard to believe they would add Campusano, but if they do, it will be sooner than later.  May be a cameo until Pham is back.

Think they should just option Jose Castillo down; hasn't really pitched in MLB in 2 years.  Pagan is the toughest call, may be based on how Altavilla & then Austin Adams do.

Greg Allen might be a playoff roster add.  Taylor Williams likely just depth & there to compete in ST next year.

with only 21 games to play ... unless the player is being added to the 28 man roster for playoff purposes ... I would just leave them on the IL ... not waste an option year (might need that option year in 2021).

guessing they would add one position player for the playoffs (currently at 12) in the following order (if healthy): Pham - Mejia - Allen. A RP gets dropped.

Hard to make the call on either Pagan or Adams bumping two more RP ... Pagan would be the logical first back (if the bicep is fine) and then maybe Adams but activating a guy who has not pitched in competition this year (not even sure how much at the alternative site .. or how effective) for a playoff run seems risky (same with Castill0).

the RP shuffle will be the toughest to get right ... and if wrong could present a real issue for the playoffs.

Best case scenario is no one in the starting 9 or starting 5 gets hurt.  For position players, that leaves Castro, Garcia and Mateo on the bench.  Mateo is the only RH option, so Pham or Mejia (whichever is healthy but not both) would probably be added to rotate at DH or flex as an OF option.  That would put us at 13 position players.

For pitchers, if we're looking ahead to the playoffs, is it set up for a 5 man rotation or something more spread out, which means you probably only need 4 starters.  One of the current starters (all RH) becomes a long man, thus making Patino, Morejon or Perdomo less needed.  Moreover, we are hamstrung by Stammen, Guerra and Altavilla (all RH) not having any options.  A minor consideration is what sort of impact psychologically could it have on a Patino or a Morejon to be sent down after getting much better over the last few weeks?  Sentiment aside, if Pagan is healthy, you have to bring him up; same with Yates, but I don't think Yates is able to come back this soon after surgery.  Therefore, I'm going with Pagan as my 14th pitcher and Patino as my 15th, over Perdomo and Morejon.  I'm hoping that Stammen and/or Guerra suddenly have mild symptoms worthy of the IL that makes these kind of decisions easier.   Not bringing up Williams, Adams or Castillo unless something very very bad happens.

The 40 man “eligible” post season roster is set on Sept 15 .... however (as I recall) the 28 man playoff roster is set prior to EACH playoff series.

Wonder IF that leads to setting a 28 for the first three game set and then doing adding / deleting prior to the second five game set. Maybe somewhat based on match-up as well as use / performance in the prior series?

Have no idea how players with no options are handled in this post season scenario.

Maybe if the opponent is LHH or RHH oriented ... the RP mix changes? If the first three game set suggests not coming close to using 15 pitchers .... do they drop some RP in favor of the “extra” position players?

If that's the case, then there is a lot of flexibility to build upon in the next 11 days, given our players potentially coming back from injuries and maybe wanting to reward a player or two at the alternate training site with some major league exposure.  Moreover, if you can try to match up per series, that's even more of a chess match.  I hope that's true - I like it!  Let have fun in this very nonconforming year!

Campusano in the Lineup at DH tonight.

Anyone know who was sent down?

Was it Mateo?

 

Looks like Perdomo to the il........

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