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Quote from Jeremy Hill on February 26, 2023, 7:13 amWe're finalizing an 11 year 350m extension with Manny according to Jeff Passan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1629860613697732613
We're finalizing an 11 year 350m extension with Manny according to Jeff Passan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1629860613697732613
Quote from Henry Silvestre on February 26, 2023, 7:33 amWoke up to this news... Awesome!
Woke up to this news... Awesome!
Quote from dusty on February 26, 2023, 7:57 amQuestion is do they try and get Soto next or is that extension going to be pending an Ohtani signing?
Question is do they try and get Soto next or is that extension going to be pending an Ohtani signing?
Quote from fenn68 on February 26, 2023, 8:20 amQuote from dusty on February 26, 2023, 7:57 amQuestion is do they try and get Soto next or is that extension going to be pending an Ohtani signing?
Think Soto will be a lot more difficult than Manny given the Boras factor and his short spell in SD. 2023 will be critical for both sides in planning the future.
Clearly the Ohtani issue will be in play prior to having to commit on the Soto plan.
Ohtani should cost more given the status as a pitcher / DH but he is older, then again he has more potential revenue impact given the Japan market and frankly a better US recognition factor.
Not likely signing both and I would push hard for Ohtani next winter and have both in 2024 … then let Soto walk.
Quote from dusty on February 26, 2023, 7:57 amQuestion is do they try and get Soto next or is that extension going to be pending an Ohtani signing?
Think Soto will be a lot more difficult than Manny given the Boras factor and his short spell in SD. 2023 will be critical for both sides in planning the future.
Clearly the Ohtani issue will be in play prior to having to commit on the Soto plan.
Ohtani should cost more given the status as a pitcher / DH but he is older, then again he has more potential revenue impact given the Japan market and frankly a better US recognition factor.
Not likely signing both and I would push hard for Ohtani next winter and have both in 2024 … then let Soto walk.
Quote from Randy Manese on February 26, 2023, 8:24 amIt seems like what most of us were thinking concerning the amount and years. He was going to make 30M anyway, so by spreading this over this year plus 10 more the impact on the AAV is less than it could have been yet still gets him paid like his contemporaries. Curious to see whether most of that money is up front (1st 5 years of new contract) like Darvish. Some of these guys might getting extensions (including non-Padres) into their 40's might just retire rather than hurt their HOF chances if they think they have a chance to get in. Manny, like so many other Padres, keeps himself in really good shape and has proven extremely durable so he might make it to 41 like Nellie!
It seems like what most of us were thinking concerning the amount and years. He was going to make 30M anyway, so by spreading this over this year plus 10 more the impact on the AAV is less than it could have been yet still gets him paid like his contemporaries. Curious to see whether most of that money is up front (1st 5 years of new contract) like Darvish. Some of these guys might getting extensions (including non-Padres) into their 40's might just retire rather than hurt their HOF chances if they think they have a chance to get in. Manny, like so many other Padres, keeps himself in really good shape and has proven extremely durable so he might make it to 41 like Nellie!
Quote from fenn68 on February 26, 2023, 8:25 amQuote from dusty on February 26, 2023, 8:00 amAlso the Manny deal “only” adds another 1.8 mil to the luxury tax at 31.8 mil aav
IF the Padres want to be under in 2023 … probably puts Garcia on the bubble … Pomeranz if he looks healthy … or IF Pomeranz looks healthy maybe Hader. Can’t trade any of the FA signings until Jun 15 (I think) and not sure who else makes the $1.8MM cut that they would really want to trade. At least there is an apparent surplus in the pen.
Then again, they just might not care.
Quote from dusty on February 26, 2023, 8:00 amAlso the Manny deal “only” adds another 1.8 mil to the luxury tax at 31.8 mil aav
IF the Padres want to be under in 2023 … probably puts Garcia on the bubble … Pomeranz if he looks healthy … or IF Pomeranz looks healthy maybe Hader. Can’t trade any of the FA signings until Jun 15 (I think) and not sure who else makes the $1.8MM cut that they would really want to trade. At least there is an apparent surplus in the pen.
Then again, they just might not care.
Quote from Jeremy Hill on February 26, 2023, 8:56 amMoving Pomeranz is the only real option if they want to get under 273m. With the incentives built into the deals for Martinez, Lugo, Carpenter and Wacha it's going to take a pretty big sum. We'll see what happens, but I'm starting to think it's no longer a concern.
Moving Pomeranz is the only real option if they want to get under 273m. With the incentives built into the deals for Martinez, Lugo, Carpenter and Wacha it's going to take a pretty big sum. We'll see what happens, but I'm starting to think it's no longer a concern.




