Quote from BoosterSD on December 29, 2022, 8:31 am

In the mode that I still think that we need a 4th SP, I am starting to wrap my head around the idea of Michael Wacha. He is only 31 years old, so younger than Cueto, and had a good season last year, with a 1.115 WHIP compared to Cuetos 1.225. I believe that he did have an injury last season, that held him to 127 IPs. He struck out more batters than Cueto, in 30 less innings.

If he his healthy, should be able to give SD 140± innings of league average pitching, and should be right around $7-9M in salary.

Quote from fenn68 on December 29, 2022, 8:31 am

Quote from BoosterSD on December 29, 2022, 8:12 am

If we are looking to round out the bench, I wonder if we should look at Adam Duvall. RHH power bat, plays good OF defense, and could handle 1B in a pinch if needed. Shouldnt be a high dollar amount, and would provide a good option for the 1 part of April while waiting for Tatis to come back, or a longer injury issue.

I think we are at the stage where the Padres hold out to sign a few more ML veterans to minor league contracts with invites to ST and see who survives to round out the bench.

Avoids a ML guaranteed commitment unless they make the 26 man roster and basically a lot of remaining FA bodies that are not projected to be all that different form each other (especially for limited bench roles). In all the cases, 30 teams must have a reason to not have signed this remaining group ... and that is not encouraging for their 2023 value.

At the end of ST the Padres will have a lot of options to make room on the 26/40 man rosters to add multiple non-roster invitees.

 

Quote from BoosterSD on December 29, 2022, 8:34 am

Quote from lafnboy13 on December 29, 2022, 8:23 am

I've been wondering about Duvall as well. I don't know why he hasn't gotten as much attention.

So I did a little more looking, and he did have season ending wrist surgery in July last season. So Im sure interested teams would want to make sure that he is good to go. Especially here in SD, where he would be most needed in early April.

Quote from BoosterSD on December 29, 2022, 8:39 am

Quote from fenn68 on December 29, 2022, 8:31 am

I think we are at the stage where the Padres hold out to sign a few more ML veterans to minor league contracts with invites to ST and see who survives to round out the bench.

Im thinking that is fine for C or INF. But Im really concerned about the start of the season, and the one COF spot until the return of Tatis. I would hate to see SD dig itself a hole in April, with a subpar performance in either LF or RF, and cost us a chance at the division. Plus, Tatis has yet to show us he can make it through an entire season, so I really think that we need a ML level 4th OFer.

Dont really want to rely on a bounce back candidate for 30-60 games in one of the COF spots.

Quote from fenn68 on December 29, 2022, 8:42 am

Quote from BoosterSD on December 29, 2022, 8:31 am

In the mode that I still think that we need a 4th SP, I am starting to wrap my head around the idea of Michael Wacha. He is only 31 years old, so younger than Cueto, and had a good season last year, with a 1.115 WHIP compared to Cuetos 1.225. I believe that he did have an injury last season, that held him to 127 IPs. He struck out more batters than Cueto, in 30 less innings.

If he his healthy, should be able to give SD 140± innings of league average pitching, and should be right around $7-9M in salary.

The "if he is healthy" is a legit concert with the shoulder issues in 2022 ,,, for the money.

The other concern I heard was his 2022 "peripherals" were much less impressive than his ERA and many are worried he is really more the 2019-21 pitcher with an ERA over that time in the 5s.

Put those two concerns together ... not case for guaranteed money or even the view that he is a #4 SP.

Quote from Jeremy Hill on December 29, 2022, 8:43 am

From Dennis Lin's latest on The Athletic on the possibility of trading Kim or Grisham.

Publicly, the Padres have downplayed the possibility. Speaking with The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal last week, Preller acknowledged he had received inquiries on Grisham and Kim. “With the Bogaerts signing, our intention is to play this position group together,” Preller added. “We like the flexibility and the versatility it gives our team.”

 

Industry sources, however, have indicated that San Diego is open to discussing either player — Grisham, in particular. The Marlins, flush with starting pitching, are one team that could make sense as a trade partner; the Padres have expressed interest in right-hander Pablo López and possibly others in the Miami rotation.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 29, 2022, 8:44 am

Not sure I'd move Kim for Lopez straight up..let alone add a TOR spec..... I might do Kim + Cristmatt for Lopez (3rd team if needed) if that doesn't get me Lopez .. then just sign Cueto for nothing but $$.. if I do end up moving from Kim at that point I can 1)fill holes or 2)get a top 100 spec +++ and continue to rebuild the system..also guys like Cristmatt etc.. who maybe moved .. look for AJP to ask for comp pick (instead of a spec) and International $$ from acquiring team... to sub both from losing it to Red Sox

Quote from fenn68 on December 29, 2022, 8:47 am

Quote from BoosterSD on December 29, 2022, 8:34 am

Quote from lafnboy13 on December 29, 2022, 8:23 am

I've been wondering about Duvall as well. I don't know why he hasn't gotten as much attention.

So I did a little more looking, and he did have season ending wrist surgery in July last season. So Im sure interested teams would want to make sure that he is good to go. Especially here in SD, where he would be most needed in early April.

A case for signing as a non-roster invitee ... but if Duvall has any other teams interested would be a hard sign without the perspective (from his view) of playing time over the course of the season.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 29, 2022, 8:50 am

I dont know why but I can see AJP pulling some Devers + Sale crazy ass trade followed by an identical (Xander)11/280 extension and all of us scratching our heads thinking where the F did this come from..?