Quote from WindsorUK on December 8, 2022, 6:53 am

Quote from fenn68 on December 8, 2022, 6:18 am

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Quote from Notmyopic on December 8, 2022, 2:30 am

Oof, not sure about this deal.  That’s a lot of money for a guy with bad home/away splits.  Afraid he will be an overpaid second baseman by year five.

After watching some videos, Bogaerts improvement in the field were due to his positioning on the grass. With the new rules in place this year, he won't be able to do that. You're most likely right about the switch to 2B but I'm thinking it's going to happen a lot sooner.

He's a big time pull hitter too, which he'll have to adapt if he's going to be successful in SD( and with the shift gone!)

Dude has a helluva track record though. I expect a better first 60 games as a Padre than we got from Soto.

And Fenn, hope you're right about going after a pitcher next. Be nice to add a durable arm in the 4/5 slot.

Actually not a big time pull hitter … basically average.

Pull - Center - Opposite

40 - 35 -25 …. MLB splits in 2022

40 - 35 -25 … Bogaerts splits in 2022 (basically a rounding difference)

42 - 33 - 25 … Bogaerts splits in his career

That is about as close to average splits as one can get.

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If playing deeper helped him … Padres just push the grass further out by expanding the dirt deeper? There is always a solution.

Do agree that he will not be a long term SS but they did not get him for his defense … they got him for his impact on the offense / team in the short term. Now that he is signed … paid for as an elite SS … probably more flexible in his defensive position.

Maybe that is in 2023 but guessing the issue comes as Merrill is ML ready in his best position and the re-signing (or not) of Kim and/or Cronenworth. I would not rule out and aging Bogaerts at 1B (if Croney gone) or 3B (if Machado gone).

Can they do that? Is there no rule on how big an infield can be? I guess I never thought of it.

Bogaerts at 1B......that was my initial thought after I read about moving every single defender. Why not just put Xander's 6'2" body over at 1B, leave Cronenworth at 2B?

Quote from WindsorUK on December 8, 2022, 6:56 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 8, 2022, 6:49 am

Quote from fenn68 on December 8, 2022, 6:18 am

Quote from WindsorUK on December 8, 2022, 5:38 am

Quote from Notmyopic on December 8, 2022, 2:30 am

Oof, not sure about this deal.  That’s a lot of money for a guy with bad home/away splits.  Afraid he will be an overpaid second baseman by year five.

After watching some videos, Bogaerts improvement in the field were due to his positioning on the grass. With the new rules in place this year, he won't be able to do that. You're most likely right about the switch to 2B but I'm thinking it's going to happen a lot sooner.

He's a big time pull hitter too, which he'll have to adapt if he's going to be successful in SD( and with the shift gone!)

Dude has a helluva track record though. I expect a better first 60 games as a Padre than we got from Soto.

And Fenn, hope you're right about going after a pitcher next. Be nice to add a durable arm in the 4/5 slot.

Actually not a big time pull hitter … basically average.

Pull - Center - Opposite

40 - 35 -25 …. MLB splits in 2022

40 - 35 -25 … Bogaerts splits in 2022 (basically a rounding difference)

42 - 33 - 25 … Bogaerts splits in his career

That is about as close to average splits as one can get.

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If playing deeper helped him … Padres just push the grass further out by expanding the dirt deeper? There is always a solution.

Do agree that he will not be a long term SS but they did not get him for his defense … they got him for his impact on the offense / team in the short term. Now that he is signed … paid for as an elite SS … probably more flexible in his defensive position.

Maybe that is in 2023 but guessing the issue comes as Merrill is ML ready in his best position and the re-signing (or not) of Kim and/or Cronenworth. I would not rule out and aging Bogaerts at 1B (if Croney gone) or 3B (if Machado gone).

If Merrill is as good as advertised he will be starting somewhere.. Kim could always move to super utility...

Yeah, Merrill might be the best defensive option at SS of all of them.

If Manny re-ups with us( please, please, please!) 3B is out of the equation.

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 8, 2022, 7:03 am

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 8, 2022, 6:49 am

Quote from fenn68 on December 8, 2022, 6:18 am

Quote from WindsorUK on December 8, 2022, 5:38 am

Quote from Notmyopic on December 8, 2022, 2:30 am

Oof, not sure about this deal.  That’s a lot of money for a guy with bad home/away splits.  Afraid he will be an overpaid second baseman by year five.

After watching some videos, Bogaerts improvement in the field were due to his positioning on the grass. With the new rules in place this year, he won't be able to do that. You're most likely right about the switch to 2B but I'm thinking it's going to happen a lot sooner.

He's a big time pull hitter too, which he'll have to adapt if he's going to be successful in SD( and with the shift gone!)

Dude has a helluva track record though. I expect a better first 60 games as a Padre than we got from Soto.

And Fenn, hope you're right about going after a pitcher next. Be nice to add a durable arm in the 4/5 slot.

Actually not a big time pull hitter … basically average.

Pull - Center - Opposite

40 - 35 -25 …. MLB splits in 2022

40 - 35 -25 … Bogaerts splits in 2022 (basically a rounding difference)

42 - 33 - 25 … Bogaerts splits in his career

That is about as close to average splits as one can get.

======================

If playing deeper helped him … Padres just push the grass further out by expanding the dirt deeper? There is always a solution.

Do agree that he will not be a long term SS but they did not get him for his defense … they got him for his impact on the offense / team in the short term. Now that he is signed … paid for as an elite SS … probably more flexible in his defensive position.

Maybe that is in 2023 but guessing the issue comes as Merrill is ML ready in his best position and the re-signing (or not) of Kim and/or Cronenworth. I would not rule out and aging Bogaerts at 1B (if Croney gone) or 3B (if Machado gone).

If Merrill is as good as advertised he will be starting somewhere.. Kim could always move to super utility...

My guess is Kim will be gone in two years about the time Merrill is ready.

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 8, 2022, 7:03 am

Quote from WindsorUK on December 8, 2022, 6:53 am

Quote from fenn68 on December 8, 2022, 6:18 am

Quote from WindsorUK on December 8, 2022, 5:38 am

Quote from Notmyopic on December 8, 2022, 2:30 am

Oof, not sure about this deal.  That’s a lot of money for a guy with bad home/away splits.  Afraid he will be an overpaid second baseman by year five.

After watching some videos, Bogaerts improvement in the field were due to his positioning on the grass. With the new rules in place this year, he won't be able to do that. You're most likely right about the switch to 2B but I'm thinking it's going to happen a lot sooner.

He's a big time pull hitter too, which he'll have to adapt if he's going to be successful in SD( and with the shift gone!)

Dude has a helluva track record though. I expect a better first 60 games as a Padre than we got from Soto.

And Fenn, hope you're right about going after a pitcher next. Be nice to add a durable arm in the 4/5 slot.

Actually not a big time pull hitter … basically average.

Pull - Center - Opposite

40 - 35 -25 …. MLB splits in 2022

40 - 35 -25 … Bogaerts splits in 2022 (basically a rounding difference)

42 - 33 - 25 … Bogaerts splits in his career

That is about as close to average splits as one can get.

======================

If playing deeper helped him … Padres just push the grass further out by expanding the dirt deeper? There is always a solution.

Do agree that he will not be a long term SS but they did not get him for his defense … they got him for his impact on the offense / team in the short term. Now that he is signed … paid for as an elite SS … probably more flexible in his defensive position.

Maybe that is in 2023 but guessing the issue comes as Merrill is ML ready in his best position and the re-signing (or not) of Kim and/or Cronenworth. I would not rule out and aging Bogaerts at 1B (if Croney gone) or 3B (if Machado gone).

Can they do that? Is there no rule on how big an infield can be? I guess I never thought of it.

Bogaerts at 1B......that was my initial thought after I read about moving every single defender. Why not just put Xander's 6'2" body over at 1B, leave Cronenworth at 2B?

Interesting thought.

Will MLB now have to dictate the size of the infield?

 

 

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 8, 2022, 7:05 am

Padres WAR 2022 Infield

Crone 4.1

Kim 5.1

Xander 5.8

Manny 6.8

 

Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 8, 2022, 7:21 am

Wonder if we are still meeting with Beni now?

Or do we Pivot to Brantley (more DH) and/or Gallo as more role players and not necessarily everyday position options..? If we stay in on Beni and sign him ..Grish is almost 💯 a trade chip.. just too valuable a player on D to not play everyday..

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Quote from Henry Silvestre on December 8, 2022, 7:21 am

Wonder if we are still meeting with Beni now?

Or do we Pivot to Brantley (more DH) and/or Gallo as more role players and not necessarily everyday position options..? If we stay in on Beni and sign him ..Grish is almost a trade chip.. just too valuable a player on D to not play everyday..

With the league need for LH CF I agree with you (Twins).

Quote from 3fingersplit on December 8, 2022, 7:28 am

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Quote from 3fingersplit on December 8, 2022, 7:32 am

The Infield Radius Arc is set at 95 ft from the front of the pitching rubber...infield dirt / outfield grass

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