Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 1:14 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on November 15, 2022, 1:04 pm

Tyler Anderson to the Angels for 3/40.

Turning down the $19MM QO!

Calculated gamble at age 32. Prior to his outstanding year with LAD, he was a mid-4 ERA type and if he regressed to the norm in 2023 he might not be that much in demand in 2024. So, guaranteed 3 years / $40MM ($13.3MM AAV) in LA vs. one year in LA at $19MM then ?????.

Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 1:17 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:12 pm

JOC accepts QO to be back with SF

That was a no brainer on Pederson's part.

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Quote from Jeremy Hill on November 15, 2022, 12:35 pm

I think we were very fortunate with the health of our starters last season. I don't think you really want to be relying on any of Morejon, Groome, Weathers or anyone else in the system to make any significant number of starts. I think we need 2 starters minimum and preferably a third or a swingman type.

I agree, thats why I was thinking the #4 Senga, Walker type, the #5 Davies, Bundy type, the #6 Martinez RP/spot start, and then kids would fill in hopefully brief injury periods.

That #4-5-6 set could cost $30MM by themselves and zip left for two hitters.

Thought you already had Martinez money in there, so if you didnt, maybe Martinez doesnt come back? We havent heard anything yet regarding him yet anyway.

 

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:23 pm

Rizzo back to NYY on multi yr deal

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:26 pm

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Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 12:59 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 12:42 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on November 15, 2022, 12:35 pm

I think we were very fortunate with the health of our starters last season. I don't think you really want to be relying on any of Morejon, Groome, Weathers or anyone else in the system to make any significant number of starts. I think we need 2 starters minimum and preferably a third or a swingman type.

I agree, thats why I was thinking the #4 Senga, Walker type, the #5 Davies, Bundy type, the #6 Martinez RP/spot start, and then kids would fill in hopefully brief injury periods.

That #4-5-6 set could cost $30MM by themselves and zip left for two hitters.

Thought you already had Martinez money in there, so if you didnt, maybe Martinez doesnt come back? We havent heard anything yet regarding him yet anyway.

 

Looking at Anderson's deal.. if I am Martinez I am sweating turning down that opt in.. I see 3/21 max for Nick Mart.. and he had what 3/19.5 .. I'd be calling my agent and saying Bro.. call AJP now..before $$ runs out..I dont want to end up in Cinci on a 1/8 deal..

Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 1:27 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 1:18 pm

Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 12:59 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 12:42 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on November 15, 2022, 12:35 pm

I think we were very fortunate with the health of our starters last season. I don't think you really want to be relying on any of Morejon, Groome, Weathers or anyone else in the system to make any significant number of starts. I think we need 2 starters minimum and preferably a third or a swingman type.

I agree, thats why I was thinking the #4 Senga, Walker type, the #5 Davies, Bundy type, the #6 Martinez RP/spot start, and then kids would fill in hopefully brief injury periods.

That #4-5-6 set could cost $30MM by themselves and zip left for two hitters.

Thought you already had Martinez money in there, so if you didnt, maybe Martinez doesnt come back? We havent heard anything yet regarding him yet anyway.

 

Nope … did not include Martinez money.

Beginning to think Martinez money may be higher that most want to pay him just based on the signings of Diaz - Suarez - Montero and now even Anderson. All got more than expected …

Even Anderson getting 3 / 39 based on one very good season coming of a career mid-4 ERA … if he gets a $13MM AAV … Martinez $10MM?

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:32 pm

Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 1:27 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 1:18 pm

Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 12:59 pm

Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 12:42 pm

Quote from Jeremy Hill on November 15, 2022, 12:35 pm

I think we were very fortunate with the health of our starters last season. I don't think you really want to be relying on any of Morejon, Groome, Weathers or anyone else in the system to make any significant number of starts. I think we need 2 starters minimum and preferably a third or a swingman type.

I agree, thats why I was thinking the #4 Senga, Walker type, the #5 Davies, Bundy type, the #6 Martinez RP/spot start, and then kids would fill in hopefully brief injury periods.

That #4-5-6 set could cost $30MM by themselves and zip left for two hitters.

Thought you already had Martinez money in there, so if you didnt, maybe Martinez doesnt come back? We havent heard anything yet regarding him yet anyway.

 

Nope … did not include Martinez money.

Beginning to think Martinez money may be higher that most want to pay him just based on the signings of Diaz - Suarez - Montero and now even Anderson. All got more than expected …

Even Anderson getting 3 / 39 based on one very good season coming of a career mid-4 ERA … if he gets a $13MM AAV … Martinez $10MM?

I dont see it.. there are yet 10-12 arms > Martinez if not more in FA..and another 10 in the arb/non-tender could be traded by Thursday .. including Lauer..Nick doesn't have the track record as a SP than a lot of these other guys do..and as a reliever he is not "elite" like a mMontero or Suarez.. i see Nick 3/21 to 3/24 Max.. maybe a 4th yr but that AAV at $7-$8

Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 1:34 pm

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:23 pm

Rizzo back to NYY on multi yr deal

Good deal for Rizzo … guaranteed 2 years / $40MM if NYY decline their 3 year option or 3 years / $51MM if NYY pick up his option (age 36). More than most estimated … more seems to be the theme this winter so far.

He is a good retain for NYY and should be worth the price.

Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:35 pm

Rizzo 2/40...

 

Abreu what 2/30? Now! Bell 3/39..?

Best of all we got Offseason action + oh yeah!