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#1031 · November 15, 2022, 1:42 pm
Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:32 pmQuote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 1:27 pmQuote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 1:18 pmQuote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 12:59 pmQuote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 12:42 pmQuote from Jeremy Hill on November 15, 2022, 12:35 pmI think we were very fortunate with the health of our starters last season. I don't think you really want to be relying on any of Morejon, Groome, Weathers or anyone else in the system to make any significant number of starts. I think we need 2 starters minimum and preferably a third or a swingman type.
I agree, thats why I was thinking the #4 Senga, Walker type, the #5 Davies, Bundy type, the #6 Martinez RP/spot start, and then kids would fill in hopefully brief injury periods.
That #4-5-6 set could cost $30MM by themselves and zip left for two hitters.
Thought you already had Martinez money in there, so if you didnt, maybe Martinez doesnt come back? We havent heard anything yet regarding him yet anyway.
Nope … did not include Martinez money.
Beginning to think Martinez money may be higher that most want to pay him just based on the signings of Diaz - Suarez - Montero and now even Anderson. All got more than expected …
Even Anderson getting 3 / 39 based on one very good season coming of a career mid-4 ERA … if he gets a $13MM AAV … Martinez $10MM?
I dont see it.. there are yet 10-12 arms > Martinez if not more in FA..and another 10 in the arb/non-tender could be traded by Thursday .. including Lauer..Nick doesn't have the track record as a SP than a lot of these other guys do..and as a reliever he is not "elite" like a mMontero or Suarez.. i see Nick 3/21 to 3/24 Max.. maybe a 4th yr but that AAV at $7-$8
I don’t see it either … and would not pay him BUT it would not rule out some team going to that higher level.
Although, given Martinez’s “unique” resume … we may see a complicated contract with incentives based on starts / total games and opt outs on a multi-year guaranteed deal.
#1032 · November 15, 2022, 1:50 pm
I expect a flurry of small trades announced over the next 2 hrs... deadline is 1hr and 10 minutes for rosters.. figure some trades /moves will be submitted to MLB but not reported til a bit later...
#1033 · November 15, 2022, 1:51 pm
Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 9:34 amSeattle is putting Jesse Winkler on the market to a) make room on the 40 man; b) clear $8.5MM. Note that he had knee surgery at the end of the season and was ticketed for neck surgery this winter.
Had a bad season in 2022 in SEA after some outstanding years ... but in hitter's paradise CINN. Horrible fielder but potentially a LHH DH with power.
Given that profile ... should not get a lot of traction except maybe for a couple of mid-range prospects who are non-roster. Under contract, so a chance SEA just releases him (if no takers) and some team can sign him for league minimum.
Would the Padres be in on him if he was released? Would the Padres be in on him if SEA ate some of the contract? His 2022 was not "good" but just pretty average ... LHH with power.
I read somewhere he has worn out his welcome in Seattle.
A head case if you will.
Teammates want him gone....was said that he doesn't work hard in the weight room or on his game.
How true I don't know...but if even remotely true it may be a hard pass.
#1034 · November 15, 2022, 1:56 pm
Quote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 1:14 pmQuote from Jeremy Hill on November 15, 2022, 1:04 pmTyler Anderson to the Angels for 3/40.
Turning down the $19MM QO!
Calculated gamble at age 32. Prior to his outstanding year with LAD, he was a mid-4 ERA type and if he regressed to the norm in 2023 he might not be that much in demand in 2024. So, guaranteed 3 years / $40MM ($13.3MM AAV) in LA vs. one year in LA at $19MM then ?????.
Maybe thats why?
Don't know what he signed for but at age 32 even 3/30 is better than 1/19
Anyway you look at it it's $11 mil more.
#1035 · November 15, 2022, 1:56 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on November 15, 2022, 1:51 pmQuote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 9:34 amSeattle is putting Jesse Winkler on the market to a) make room on the 40 man; b) clear $8.5MM. Note that he had knee surgery at the end of the season and was ticketed for neck surgery this winter.
Had a bad season in 2022 in SEA after some outstanding years ... but in hitter's paradise CINN. Horrible fielder but potentially a LHH DH with power.
Given that profile ... should not get a lot of traction except maybe for a couple of mid-range prospects who are non-roster. Under contract, so a chance SEA just releases him (if no takers) and some team can sign him for league minimum.
Would the Padres be in on him if he was released? Would the Padres be in on him if SEA ate some of the contract? His 2022 was not "good" but just pretty average ... LHH with power.
I read somewhere he has worn out his welcome in Seattle.
A head case if you will.
Teammates want him gone....was said that he doesn't work hard in the weight room or on his game.
How true I don't know...but if even remotely true it may be a hard pass.
Or a Machado leadership moment Bro I used to be you..and I did this this and this and look at me now.. lets workout together this offseason...#LFGSD...
Seattle just a bunch of Dudes with no Veteran leader..a bit different
#1036 · November 15, 2022, 2:03 pm
Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:23 pmRizzo back to NYY on multi yr deal
Well Bowden was wrong on this one. Thought he was coming to SD.
#1037 · November 15, 2022, 2:05 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 2:03 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:23 pmRizzo back to NYY on multi yr deal
Well Bowden was wrong on this one. Thought he was coming to SD.
No different than u and I expeculating..
#1038 · November 15, 2022, 2:18 pm
Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 1:56 pmQuote from MrPadre19 on November 15, 2022, 1:51 pmQuote from fenn68 on November 15, 2022, 9:34 amSeattle is putting Jesse Winkler on the market to a) make room on the 40 man; b) clear $8.5MM. Note that he had knee surgery at the end of the season and was ticketed for neck surgery this winter.
Had a bad season in 2022 in SEA after some outstanding years ... but in hitter's paradise CINN. Horrible fielder but potentially a LHH DH with power.
Given that profile ... should not get a lot of traction except maybe for a couple of mid-range prospects who are non-roster. Under contract, so a chance SEA just releases him (if no takers) and some team can sign him for league minimum.
Would the Padres be in on him if he was released? Would the Padres be in on him if SEA ate some of the contract? His 2022 was not "good" but just pretty average ... LHH with power.
I read somewhere he has worn out his welcome in Seattle.
A head case if you will.
Teammates want him gone....was said that he doesn't work hard in the weight room or on his game.
How true I don't know...but if even remotely true it may be a hard pass.
Or a Machado leadership moment Bro I used to be you..and I did this this and this and look at me now.. lets workout together this offseason...#LFGSD...
Seattle just a bunch of Dudes with no Veteran leader..a bit different
Well Winkler is no kid so probably not really going to change.
Moreover, on a legit contender, not sure I want to spend to see IF any player can make a turnaround (be that attitude or health). There are alternatives who are players who have the attitude and will go to the post for a full season … so don’t waste the time, money, roster spot.
#1039 · November 15, 2022, 2:56 pm
Quote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 2:05 pmQuote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 2:03 pmWell Bowden was wrong on this one. Thought he was coming to SD.
No different than u and I expeculating..
Except he is supposed to be an industry insider that has connections. So a little different.
#1040 · November 15, 2022, 2:59 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 2:56 pmQuote from Henry Silvestre on November 15, 2022, 2:05 pmQuote from BoosterSD on November 15, 2022, 2:03 pmWell Bowden was wrong on this one. Thought he was coming to SD.
No different than u and I expeculating..
Except he is supposed to be an industry insider that has connections. So a little different.
Not guessing in FA on day 4... GMs don't even know what's going to happen.. Those predictions are just that this early in the offseason