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#851 · October 17, 2022, 9:04 am
I know I am a bit out of date on this … but attendance revenue sharing is not quite so simple.
15% does directly to the Commissioner’s Office
50% (from the WC series) goes to the Players Pool for player bonuses (first two games only)
60% (from the Division series) goes to the Player’s Pool (first 3 games only)
60% (from the Champion Series and World Series) go to the Player’s Pool (first 4 games only)
Any money not distributed per above is split 50/50 between the home and visiting team.
So the calculation is a bit more complicated … and “teams” benefit more by playing a full series (not as lucrative in a sweep). Basically in the first sharing games the teams get about 12.5% of the attendance revenues.
As for souvenirs, I think even in the playoffs they are governed by some sharing rules with MLB.
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Remember the logic for the Player’s Pool is that their contracts are for the regular season only (not paid for playoff games) … so the Player Pool serves to compensate the players for the “overtime” of playoffs and not just create a windfall for the owners. Was a CBA negotiation issue.
#852 · October 20, 2022, 1:09 pm
Crone, Kim, Grish and SOTO all finalist for Gold Gloves
Machado is NOT!
WTF?
#853 · October 20, 2022, 1:18 pm
Quote from Henry Silvestre on October 20, 2022, 1:09 pmCrone, Kim, Grish and SOTO all finalist for Gold Gloves
Machado is NOT!
WTF?
I saw that ... the three 3B finalists in the NL are Arenado, Hayes, and McMahon ...
The voting is by the 15 NL managers (plus coaches) counting for 75% (can't vote for someone from own team) the the other 25% is by metrics from SABR. So it is basically the eyeball test of managers/coaches ...
I will buy into Grisham, Kim, and Cronenworth as finalists BUT Soto? From what I have seen he more bad than good defensively but maybe it is a case of how bad the other regular RF are in the NL.
#854 · October 20, 2022, 1:34 pm
looked at Fangraphs defensive ranking for 2022 ... NL qualified players only:
- Machado was ranked 4th out of 8 (behind Arenado - Hayes - McMahon (so consistent with the gold glove finalists) ...
- Grisham ranked #1 of 7
- Cronenworth ranked #2 of 4 (I guess not a lot of regular 2B in the NL)
- Kim ranked #7 of 10 (should put his nomination in question in other cities)
- Soto ranked #6 of 6 (so basically the worst defensive RF of the qualified NL RF ... should note way way way analytically below the top three).
Just highlights the structure of analytics vs. the eyeball observations the don't see players every game so can't really do a full season evaluation and rely on the "limited" observations and reputations.
#855 · October 20, 2022, 1:56 pm
I will toss in one more "oddity" ... LF where Profar was ranked #2 by Fangraphs for Qualified LF. The Gold Glove finalist as Happ (#1), Peralta (did not quality as a LF), and Yelich (#4). The #3 on Fangraphs was Canha.
Now Peralta is a top defensive player but player less than 1/2 season in LF (600 innings or so). Would have been ahead of Happ IF he played more in LF ... but that logic could also apply to Taylor (LAD) who also played about the same amount in LF and statistically was the best LF (600+ innings).
So, take Gold Glove nominations for what they are worth.
#856 · October 20, 2022, 5:42 pm
McMahon also led all of MLB 3b in errors with 17.
#857 · October 21, 2022, 1:53 am
I thought for sure this was the year Manny unseats Arenado for the GG( should have been last year, with the way Manny played the shift) His offensive numbers were right there with Arenado as well.
And whatever defensive metrics they use are obviously not worthy( any defensive metric that says Kim has more range than Tatis is just wrong).
#858 · October 21, 2022, 6:07 am
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#859 · October 21, 2022, 7:07 am
Quote from WindsorUK on October 21, 2022, 1:53 amI thought for sure this was the year Manny unseats Arenado for the GG( should have been last year, with the way Manny played the shift) His offensive numbers were right there with Arenado as well.
And whatever defensive metrics they use are obviously not worthy( any defensive metric that says Kim has more range than Tatis is just wrong).
I am in the camp that all defensive metrics are irrelevant. The Gold Glove is arguably the product (75%) of observation for managers and coaches which is flawed differently. First you have to deal with reputation to the disadvantage of young (better) defensive players in the current year. Then how often have the voters actually seen the candidates not in their division … and where those good or bad games for the player? Most likely the voters also use metrics and don’t really care so pass those votes to others or just shoot from the hip.
We see Machado every game … and he is great BUT how often have we seen Hayes (PITT) to make a legit comparison without the use of metrics (even if flawed)? A no win situation … making Gold Glove irrelevant to me.
#860 · October 21, 2022, 7:18 am
Have to be a bit cautious in the range comparison between Tatis vs Kim. Start with the definition and calculus of “range”. Seems that Tatis looks to have better range based on some of his spectacular plays BUT if range is a product of all plays … could be that Kim gets that first step and covers further distances on a consistent basis while Tatis only out does Kim sometimes? So maybe Tatis has the POTENTIAL but Kim delivers the constancy?
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Now consider the need to hype but Melvin has been going out of his way to praise Kim as one of the best defensive SS in the league (that is more than just range). In part that helps Kim’s confidence (hence the team) and maybe in part sending a message to Tatis to get that OF glove ready for ST