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Quote from Brian Connelly on May 4, 2021, 2:08 pmI still think Paddack will become a more than serviceable #4 or #5 Starter.
He's still young.Look around the league and see how many guys came up young with a ton of hype but still took 2-4 years to "get it".
Guys like Jake Arrieta and Dylan Bundy are the first that pop into my mind.Both came up with Balt. with high expectations....both took several years before they were actually effective. The list is long.
I agree Mr P. Another guy like that is Musgrove! CP has annoyed me too at times, but what's getting me is we're desperately thin on SP, there's barely enough IP to go around if everything goes right... and people still want to dump Paddack.
Can I see that happening with next year's POTENTIAL rotation... yes. This year, we really need him.
I still think Paddack will become a more than serviceable #4 or #5 Starter.
He's still young.Look around the league and see how many guys came up young with a ton of hype but still took 2-4 years to "get it".
Guys like Jake Arrieta and Dylan Bundy are the first that pop into my mind.Both came up with Balt. with high expectations....both took several years before they were actually effective. The list is long.
I agree Mr P. Another guy like that is Musgrove! CP has annoyed me too at times, but what's getting me is we're desperately thin on SP, there's barely enough IP to go around if everything goes right... and people still want to dump Paddack.
Can I see that happening with next year's POTENTIAL rotation... yes. This year, we really need him.
Quote from fenn68 on May 4, 2021, 2:23 pmYeh, if they NEED him, they keep him .... but if they don't NEED him in the starting rotation because the other options are preforming better??? Does he drop to #6 as a spot starter (or first in for injury) until he proves he belongs in the top 5 (or one of the top 5 performs their way out)?
Long season ... innings limits ... Paddack will get his chance to prove his value. Just getting to the point where he has to deliver.
Yeh, if they NEED him, they keep him .... but if they don't NEED him in the starting rotation because the other options are preforming better??? Does he drop to #6 as a spot starter (or first in for injury) until he proves he belongs in the top 5 (or one of the top 5 performs their way out)?
Long season ... innings limits ... Paddack will get his chance to prove his value. Just getting to the point where he has to deliver.
Quote from fenn68 on May 4, 2021, 2:26 pmLamet will start tonight ... no announcement on the player optioned yet.
Hopefully he can go at least five.
Lamet will start tonight ... no announcement on the player optioned yet.
Hopefully he can go at least five.
Quote from fenn68 on May 5, 2021, 7:12 amNot a great game yesterday.
- apparently the Padres are being very careful with Lamet and Weathers even with the glowing reports from the bullpens. Lamet 2 innings - 30 pitches (21K) while Weathers 3 innings - 37 pitches (25K).
- bullpen gets worked again but still effective
- hitting still is suffering .... focus needs to be on Machado - Hosmer - Myers given their lack of production over the last 15 days. OPS at .521 (Hosmer) - .481 (Myers) - .462 (Machado) is just bad for the "middle of the order" ... worse when all three slump at the same time. Ahead of them Tatis - Grisham and even Profar - Pham are getting on base so the burden falls directly on the middle of the order bats. Slumps are slumps and are often contagious ... so expect a turnaround at some point.
IF both Lamet and Weathers feel fine today ... we will see the logic the Padres use for next Sunday's starter and will they still want to control innings with both.
Not a great game yesterday.
- apparently the Padres are being very careful with Lamet and Weathers even with the glowing reports from the bullpens. Lamet 2 innings - 30 pitches (21K) while Weathers 3 innings - 37 pitches (25K).
- bullpen gets worked again but still effective
- hitting still is suffering .... focus needs to be on Machado - Hosmer - Myers given their lack of production over the last 15 days. OPS at .521 (Hosmer) - .481 (Myers) - .462 (Machado) is just bad for the "middle of the order" ... worse when all three slump at the same time. Ahead of them Tatis - Grisham and even Profar - Pham are getting on base so the burden falls directly on the middle of the order bats. Slumps are slumps and are often contagious ... so expect a turnaround at some point.
IF both Lamet and Weathers feel fine today ... we will see the logic the Padres use for next Sunday's starter and will they still want to control innings with both.
Quote from BoosterSD on May 5, 2021, 9:13 amI do find it somewhat comforting, that through the rash of SP injuries and the hitting slump of the team, that we are still not losing too much ground in the race for the NL West. Even with our under performing offense, we have kept pace with the LAD and I dont think that SF can hold their pace all season long.
Bodes well for SD, once the bats get going and they can lighten the load of the pitching staff of trying to be perfect.
Should make for an exciting summer and pennant chase into September.
I do find it somewhat comforting, that through the rash of SP injuries and the hitting slump of the team, that we are still not losing too much ground in the race for the NL West. Even with our under performing offense, we have kept pace with the LAD and I dont think that SF can hold their pace all season long.
Bodes well for SD, once the bats get going and they can lighten the load of the pitching staff of trying to be perfect.
Should make for an exciting summer and pennant chase into September.
Quote from Brian Connelly on May 5, 2021, 12:12 pmQuote from BoosterSD on May 5, 2021, 9:13 amI do find it somewhat comforting, that through the rash of SP injuries and the hitting slump of the team, that we are still not losing too much ground in the race for the NL West. Even with our under performing offense, we have kept pace with the LAD and I dont think that SF can hold their pace all season long.
Bodes well for SD, once the bats get going and they can lighten the load of the pitching staff of trying to be perfect.
Should make for an exciting summer and pennant chase into September.
Hate it when everyone's cold. Pads are now Bottom third in: BA - 20th, Runs - 21st, HR - 24th, OPS - 26th.
Machado needs a day (actually 2 with off day) down; just looked terrible at plate today. Myers hasn't been the same since his knee flared up / numerous off days.
But the big thing yesterday was Lamet & Weathers looking & coming out of the game OK; not their very best, but healthy. Huge!
It's pretty obvious that the epic comeback Padre win in last game did affect LAD, who are 2 - 7 since that game.
Quote from BoosterSD on May 5, 2021, 9:13 amI do find it somewhat comforting, that through the rash of SP injuries and the hitting slump of the team, that we are still not losing too much ground in the race for the NL West. Even with our under performing offense, we have kept pace with the LAD and I dont think that SF can hold their pace all season long.
Bodes well for SD, once the bats get going and they can lighten the load of the pitching staff of trying to be perfect.
Should make for an exciting summer and pennant chase into September.
Hate it when everyone's cold. Pads are now Bottom third in: BA - 20th, Runs - 21st, HR - 24th, OPS - 26th.
Machado needs a day (actually 2 with off day) down; just looked terrible at plate today. Myers hasn't been the same since his knee flared up / numerous off days.
But the big thing yesterday was Lamet & Weathers looking & coming out of the game OK; not their very best, but healthy. Huge!
It's pretty obvious that the epic comeback Padre win in last game did affect LAD, who are 2 - 7 since that game.
Quote from Brian Connelly on May 5, 2021, 1:44 pmWell, assuming they're both/all OK...
someone out of: Paddack, Lamet, Weathers, Lamet/Weathers, or TBD gets the last SF game Sunday 5/9...
... sticking the other guy/s with "hard landing" spots @ Colorado.
Since they only went 30-40 pitches & 2-3 IP respectively, I'd go with Lamet/Weathers piggyback again on "normal" rest for the last SF game & hope to get 6+ to 7+ IP total this time around; hopefully preserving bullpen for 3 games @ Rox.
Paddack might just get stuck with game 1 @ Col Mon 5/10.
Well, assuming they're both/all OK...
someone out of: Paddack, Lamet, Weathers, Lamet/Weathers, or TBD gets the last SF game Sunday 5/9...
... sticking the other guy/s with "hard landing" spots @ Colorado.
Since they only went 30-40 pitches & 2-3 IP respectively, I'd go with Lamet/Weathers piggyback again on "normal" rest for the last SF game & hope to get 6+ to 7+ IP total this time around; hopefully preserving bullpen for 3 games @ Rox.
Paddack might just get stuck with game 1 @ Col Mon 5/10.
Quote from Brian Connelly on May 5, 2021, 2:18 pmHow small sample size stats can be deceiving...
In 6 starts, Darvish is legit averaging 6 1/3 IP.
In 5 starts, Musgrove & Snell are each averaging exactly 5.0 IP.... but Musgrove's 6th start was the no hitter. Snell's was the 2/3 of an inning debacle. Throw out the extreme outliers, and they're providing the same duration on average.
In 5 starts, Paddack is averaging 4 2/3 IP... just 1 out less per Start than what Musgrove & Snell typically are. He K's far fewer guys per 9 IP, and allows way more hits, but so far limits HR at same rate as the top 3 SP, and he Walks only half as many guys as Snell (so his WHIP is lower). Snell's allowed 39 baserunners in 25 2/3 IP = 1.52/Inning... but he's managed so far to keep them from scoring. Paddack's "only" allowed 32 baserunners in 23 1/3 IP = 1.37/Inning... but as we all know, he tends to let them come all the way around in bunches. Darvish at 38/38 = 1.00/Inning. Musgrove's no hitter = only 28 /34 = 0.82/Inning.
IMO, Snell is living extremely dangerously with guys ALWAYS on base, and eventually is going to pay the price if he can't do a better job limiting walks. April 2021 Chris Paddack is nowhere near the SP the "top 3" are right now, and may never be. He's not good enough right now to "digest" and move on from Errors behind him (5 unearned runs vs 2 Musgrove, 1 Snell, 0 Darvish), but he may have had to deal with more E than the other 3?
Would I like CP to go longer in games? Of course. But given their ability, Musgrove & Snell should be doing so even more.
How small sample size stats can be deceiving...
In 6 starts, Darvish is legit averaging 6 1/3 IP.
In 5 starts, Musgrove & Snell are each averaging exactly 5.0 IP.... but Musgrove's 6th start was the no hitter. Snell's was the 2/3 of an inning debacle. Throw out the extreme outliers, and they're providing the same duration on average.
In 5 starts, Paddack is averaging 4 2/3 IP... just 1 out less per Start than what Musgrove & Snell typically are. He K's far fewer guys per 9 IP, and allows way more hits, but so far limits HR at same rate as the top 3 SP, and he Walks only half as many guys as Snell (so his WHIP is lower). Snell's allowed 39 baserunners in 25 2/3 IP = 1.52/Inning... but he's managed so far to keep them from scoring. Paddack's "only" allowed 32 baserunners in 23 1/3 IP = 1.37/Inning... but as we all know, he tends to let them come all the way around in bunches. Darvish at 38/38 = 1.00/Inning. Musgrove's no hitter = only 28 /34 = 0.82/Inning.
IMO, Snell is living extremely dangerously with guys ALWAYS on base, and eventually is going to pay the price if he can't do a better job limiting walks. April 2021 Chris Paddack is nowhere near the SP the "top 3" are right now, and may never be. He's not good enough right now to "digest" and move on from Errors behind him (5 unearned runs vs 2 Musgrove, 1 Snell, 0 Darvish), but he may have had to deal with more E than the other 3?
Would I like CP to go longer in games? Of course. But given their ability, Musgrove & Snell should be doing so even more.
Quote from Brian Connelly on May 5, 2021, 2:27 pmKim in starting lineup for Machado @ 3B.
Kim in starting lineup for Machado @ 3B.




