Quote from Commie on June 18, 2019, 6:06 pm

Quote from David Nevin on June 18, 2019, 5:01 pm

Hudson Head gets  $3 mil.

So much for signing Hampton.

 

Wow. That is a surprise. So they still have enough for Fellows and maybe one more Day 3 overslot? Carver?

Quote from Cptjack on June 18, 2019, 6:16 pm

Step 1: Take the 90th-120th ranked prospect 84th overall

Step 2: Sign him for the 23rd most money

Step 3:

Step 4: Profit

I legitimately don't understand the Padres draft strategy here. His price isn't so absurd for signability concerns to weigh down his draft ranking. Meaning 29 other teams and all the prognosticators didn't see 1st round talent. That's quite the lonely island to be on.

Quote from fenn68 on June 19, 2019, 5:29 am

ALL HAIL BORAS! ALL HAIL BORAS! ALL HAIL BORAS!

Big bet by the Padres ... Padre scouts must really love his potential. Just guessing but they may have determined that Hampton would not sign which freed up the money to meet Boras' demand.

Overpay ... maybe but the Padres have no issue in spending their entire budget for draft signings and if that is what it took to get it done ... so be it.

No idea the probability that was on the table for getting any of those Day 3 signed ... and really how much potential exists in them (excluding Hampton of course).

Not my money.

Quote from fenn68 on June 19, 2019, 5:33 am

Looks as though the Padres signed #21 Jack Stronach, LHH 3B out of UCLA and assigned him to TC.

Jeff Sanders has the Padres signing 28 of the 41 picks ...

Quote from 84padres on June 19, 2019, 6:44 am

Quote from David Nevin on June 18, 2019, 5:01 pm

Hudson Head gets  $3 mil.

 

 

Reminds me of Al Snows gimmick in WWE. What does everyone  want ? HEAD

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Quote from Brian Connelly on June 20, 2019, 9:30 am

Quote from Cptjack on June 18, 2019, 6:16 pm

Step 1: Take the 90th-120th ranked prospect 84th overall

Step 2: Sign him for the 23rd most money

Step 3:

Step 4: Profit

I legitimately don't understand the Padres draft strategy here. His price isn't so absurd for signability concerns to weigh down his draft ranking. Meaning 29 other teams and all the prognosticators didn't see 1st round talent. That's quite the lonely island to be on.

I could not believe this when I read it.  The Padres tried to be aggressive & "clever" & it freaking blew up in their face.... there is no way to grade this anything but an "F".  Only Head's performance can make this move look good:   At this cost, Head has to be AT LEAST a top 15  in our strong system by end of season to not be looked at as a bad move.

The Pads literally could have signed Head for less by pursuing the exact same strategy WITHOUT drafting Hampton as the potential "get it all" guy... they could have pushed Head's demands down by negotiating with multiple other high ceiling, but not "2 MM+ to sign", guys.  But when Hampton said "no" to whatever our best offer was, Boras knew we couldn't also NOT sign our 3rd round pick... with 2 MM+ left in our draft pool... so he just said "all that $ set aside for Hampton... we'll take it.... all or none".  Played chicken knowing he was going to win.

So the issue isn't not getting Hampton (always unlikely), it's a vast apparent over-valuation of Head exacerbated by very poor strategy.  Pads kept their "head" (pun intended) picking Abrams.  But after that, it looks like they could have drafted better 2nd, 7th, 8th, 9th, & 10th round picks AND a on/near slot guy in 3rd round.  OK to take some chances with a good farm, but next time just pick the best freaking players willing to sign.

Quote from Brian Connelly on June 20, 2019, 9:37 am

Quote from fenn68 on June 19, 2019, 5:29 am

ALL HAIL BORAS! ALL HAIL BORAS! ALL HAIL BORAS!

Big bet by the Padres ... Padre scouts must really love his potential. Just guessing but they may have determined that Hampton would not sign which freed up the money to meet Boras' demand.

Overpay ... maybe but the Padres have no issue in spending their entire budget for draft signings and if that is what it took to get it done ... so be it.

No idea the probability that was on the table for getting any of those Day 3 signed ... and really how much potential exists in them (excluding Hampton of course).

Not my money.

NO!   "Not my $" applies on bad free agency moves, extensions, etc.  But Preller isn't spending 'more' here... he's being forced to spend his finite defined amount that he wanted to spread around on 1 guy with a smart (but not THAT smart) agent.

I'm a big Preller fan, and the Hampton pick made some sense, but by consensus player evaluation, the Pads just overpaid Head 2 MM; or the equivalent of a 500K better prospect in 2nd round, Three 500K 3rd day picks, PLUS still signing Head.

BAAAADDDDD!

Quote from Brian Connelly on June 20, 2019, 1:11 pm

Quote from Brian Connelly on June 11, 2019, 8:52 am

Quote from Commie on June 10, 2019, 5:36 pm

Quote from ramrodd on June 10, 2019, 2:12 pm

https://twitter.com/advancedstats23/status/1138181655862992899

Do they work backwards and sign Hampton then see who among the others they have the budget left over to sign?  I mean if he is the best of the bunch and all.

"A team that outspends its pool by 0-5 percent pays a 75 percent tax on the overage"...

Using what MLB.com is reporting:  then assuming 9th round pick (Sr) Blanchard signed for $5k, and Vandy 6th rounder Fellows signs at slot value... Padres would have about $2,050,000 remaining in their bonus pool.  BUT they can exceed their 10.75MM pool (this assumes they sign Head) by up to 5% which = another 537K.  So Pads have a hard total of around $2,587,000 available for:  going over slot of $721.9K to Hudson Head, and $125K to Hampton & all other 11th round+ picks.  The tax on the overage is a max of $400K which is "next to nothing" relative to the entire draft pool.

With this info, I can see them going a little high on Head, + 2 MM max to Hampton (2.125MM total), and enough to go significantly over on maybe 2 more guys.   Hampton, Head, & Feole +1 would be the "home run" (no $ left for Josh Rivera).  The plan B if you don't get Hampton is you sign Rivera and every other "above slot" draftee...

Either outcome looks good, but I'm being optimistic and thinking they do sign Hampton.

Wow.  Even worse than I thought... Pads not only spent all their remaining pool on Head, they're actually about 225K into the penalty, meaning they "get to" pay ANOTHER 170K  for the privilege of overpaying Head...   The area scout should get a lot of credit it Pads "hit" on Head, but if they miss it is 100% on Preller.

By my math, assuming Fellows signs and at his slot, they've got a little over 300K of "penalty $" left to sign any 11th round+ guys.

Someone was reporting they thought they would sign 15th round OF Tarver.  If he's over 125K, then not much left...

Quote from Commie on June 24, 2019, 5:52 pm

Is there anywhere to find current remaining available money from draft pool? I checked BA but no luck.