Quote from Henry Silvestre on March 15, 2018, 6:41 am

Margot CF

Pirela LF

Myers RF

Hosmer 1B

Headley 3B

Hedges C

ASUAJE 2B

GALVIS SS

Pitcher

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Quote from MrPadre19 on March 14, 2018, 1:41 pm

Capps potential

If he's not back to touching the upper 90's his potential is greatly reduced and may not be worth the trouble.

That's just it......should we expect it to be by the end of ST or it's not possible to return?

Without options it's either give up on him or leave him in the Major League Bullpen.

I would be surprised if Capps returns to the upper 90's with his modified delivery to be rules compliant. Still has a legit shot since don't see four other clear cut options for slots 5 - 8 in the pen. So, if he is decent over the next week+ ... considering he is out of options and a number of the alternatives are non-roster ... he could get a longer audition by making the opening day roster. If he struggles during Apr ... easy to release him later and call-up someone. He is not making enough money to be an issue either way.

Very hard to judge from afar any of the RP alternatives since most of their spring work has been on the back fields and in side sessions. The limited appearances in "A" games can (and likely is) misleading. Listened to Balsley the other day basically saying that with all the SP candidates so far it has been hard to schedule innings with having to place two SP in the same game with the objective as spring moves forward to get them 4-5 innings ... not a lot of room for RP to showcase except on the back fields.

However, looking at the bigger roster issues, IF Ellis, Ross, and Young make the 25 man roster as non-roster that will require three current roster players to be moved ... three may not be a big issue BUT each additional one (if they add from the non-roster RP) becomes more debatable. We all have our bias on who would get axed ... Dickerson to the 60 day is likely ... Lyles waived seems inevitable since he has pitched poorly and is out of options ... Szczur also out of options in a crowded OF ... well maybe not so difficult considering there still is Wick, Brewer, Guerra.

Quote from Cptjack on March 15, 2018, 6:11 pm

Quote from fenn68 on March 15, 2018, 7:10 am

I would be surprised if Capps returns to the upper 90's with his modified delivery to be rules compliant.

Capps was upper 90's before any of the jump step shenanigans.

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I would be surprised if Capps returns to the upper 90's with his modified delivery to be rules compliant.

Capps was upper 90's before any of the jump step shenanigans.

Can he be sent down without having the option to elect free agency?

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Quote from fenn68 on March 15, 2018, 7:10 am

I would be surprised if Capps returns to the upper 90's with his modified delivery to be rules compliant.

Capps was upper 90's before any of the jump step shenanigans.

Can he be sent down without having the option to elect free agency?

No minor league options left but has less than 5 years of ML service (4.133) so (I think) if he clears waivers he could be assigned to the minors without his consent. Would he clear waivers?

Think he makes the club (at least to start the season) since don't really see 8 RP that beat him out in ST ... buys some time.

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I would be surprised if Capps returns to the upper 90's with his modified delivery to be rules compliant.

Capps was upper 90's before any of the jump step shenanigans.

When he arrived in 2015 (healthy and with the jump delivery) he was averaging 98.7 MPH with the FB and maxed at 101.8.

Now he is trying to overcome both the impact of TJ surgery and the delivery change from the "jump" to the "drag". Fangraphs hand the "jump" worth about 3.5 MPH of added velocity from a "normal" delivery. Not sure where the "drag" delivery nets out but clearly his release point is now further away from the batter.

Last August (and from some ST comments) ... he was averaging around  92-93 MPH and maxed at 95.1 even with the modified release point. Might he add a bit more as he gains strength from the TJ recovery?

If he is now sitting in the mid-90s ... that is good enough to be effective in the ML, so not really put off by the velocity down tick. Maybe not the "elite" arm as in 2015 but still can be quality IF he has any command.

As I said, think he will get a longer look and make the 25 man UNLESS they consider him not fully recovered from his surgeries and put him on the DL (suggested on the Padres website as a possibility) ...

Quote from Ben Davey on March 16, 2018, 11:36 pm

The last game he pitched in, it was noticeable that he was reverting back to the jump.  It was not as extreme as before, but still extremely more noticeable.  Not only did he have a couple more mph on his fastball but his overall accuracy improved.

I cant see Young making the team (especially after being blown out today).

I would guess the pen looks like
Hand
Yates
Stammen
Makita
Capps
Erlin
Brewer

Quote from fenn68 on March 17, 2018, 7:23 am

I would not put too much into Young's performance yesterday considering how well he pitched the previous outing. In ST ... with a veteran ... never know exactly what he was trying to achieve in that outing (especially if he has an indication from Green about his future).

Last report had the final two SP slots up between Young, Ross, Erlin, and Perdomo with both Young and Erlin bullpen options. Hard to see Erlin getting a SP slot (with any expectation he can take a lot of innings) after not pitching much for two years .... would see his return is better shaped via the bullpen or AAA starting. Ross is being touted as ready to return to the ML ... so maybe he locks down one slot. Makes Perdomo the question mark as to starting for Young then an "open" bullpen gives him a fall back.

Young does have a contract that lets him opt out if he does not make the club out of ST ... Ross, on the other hand, can begin the season in AAA and opt out later (not sure on his date).

Might see two more appearances by the four candidates in ST before they make the call ... but would not rule out Young just yet.

Quote from Ben Davey on March 17, 2018, 6:57 pm

The problem is CY had always relied on deception given his height.  When he was with the Padres he was tossing 90-92 and given his height it looked like it was 96-98.  Now his fastball is sitting 86-87.  The height doesnt go away (obviously) but he was released because his stuff just isnt that good.  The early spring success might be more indicative of hitters not being used to seeing that high of a release angle.  If he gets knocked around next time out, I think that is the end for CY.

Perdomo has options, and nothing about his starts has shown that he has turned the corner and improved.  Great chance that multiple starters are injured this season so Perdomo will be the first up.  Also shows that if he doesnt improve Lauer/Lucchessi are behind him