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What has to happen for us to be competitive in 2020?

Quote from JasonE135 on December 29, 2019, 2:33 pm

I have to agree with fenn68 here. Our team is already much improved. Our rotation was middle of the pack last year. We replaced Margevicius and Strahm(both terrible) in our rotation with full years of Richards and  Lamet. Huge improvement. Replaced Lauer with Davies. Improvement. Paddock and Quantrill will have a year of experience under their belts and no innings restrictions. Improvement. Bullpen? Improved. Defense last year? Average to plus and should be again this year. Offense? We lost a lot of HR with losing Reyes and Renfroe, but we replaced it with a lot of OBP in Pham, Grisham. Hedges to Mejia? Huge offensive plus. We are better everywhere.

But overall, the main thing I noticed from last year? When Tatis was playing, our offense and defense were clicking and we were competing for the playoffs. When he wasn’t, we weren’t.

The point wasn’t whether we had already improved....it was what “else” needs to happen different from last year to make the best Improvement.

I think we all agree we are already better....but what else,or who, needs to be better than last year on the field?

 

I think two additional specs need to hit. Like Tatis, Paddack, Baez, and Munoz (Cal and Mejia to a lesser degree) last year I think we need at least three of Gore / Patino / Arias / Olivares / Cordero / TT / Cronen / Moreno / Grisham to show above average / elite potential to produce at the ML level next year.

Whether the actual impact/ production translates to Ws or the momentum of internal improvement, I think we comfortably push over .500.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 29, 2019, 3:50 pm
Quote from JasonE135 on December 29, 2019, 2:33 pm

I have to agree with fenn68 here. Our team is already much improved. Our rotation was middle of the pack last year. We replaced Margevicius and Strahm(both terrible) in our rotation with full years of Richards and  Lamet. Huge improvement. Replaced Lauer with Davies. Improvement. Paddock and Quantrill will have a year of experience under their belts and no innings restrictions. Improvement. Bullpen? Improved. Defense last year? Average to plus and should be again this year. Offense? We lost a lot of HR with losing Reyes and Renfroe, but we replaced it with a lot of OBP in Pham, Grisham. Hedges to Mejia? Huge offensive plus. We are better everywhere.

But overall, the main thing I noticed from last year? When Tatis was playing, our offense and defense were clicking and we were competing for the playoffs. When he wasn’t, we weren’t.

The point wasn’t whether we had already improved....it was what “else” needs to happen different from last year to make the best Improvement.

I think we all agree we are already better....but what else,or who, needs to be better than last year on the field?

 

Just Tatis. Only Tatis. If he remains healthy all year and produces anything close to last year we will be over .500 and in the playoff hunt.

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 29, 2019, 3:50 pm

The point wasn’t whether we had already improved....it was what “else” needs to happen different from last year to make the best Improvement. I think we all agree we are already better....but what else,or who, needs to be better than last year on the field?

To get better we need less Hedges, less Kinsler, no Naylor in the OF, and less Andy Green. Some of this has already happened. Kinsler retired, Green let go, and Mejia started a lot more in the second half.

As long as Tingler has a brain, he will realize that Naylor can not play OF; especially in SD, and he will quit playing Myers at 17 different positions.

Hosmer needs to get back to his game. Doubles and getting on base, and remember that he is a gold glove 1B.

Finally, and most importantly, as many have mentioned, Tatis stays healthy.

 

I will be very surprised if Naylor isn’t in El Paso to start the season.

Only way he makes the Opening Day roster is with at least 2 injuries  to corner outfielders.

He is now behind Pham,Myers,Grisham and Cordero for the 26th spot IMO.

Anyone think we keep 6 outfielders?

 

 

 

Quote from MrPadre19 on December 29, 2019, 4:54 pm

Anyone think we keep 6 outfielders?

 

No 7. Pham, Margot, Grisham, Myers, Cronenworth, Profar, and Garcia in a pinch.

Cronenworth has played “one” game in the OF in his professional career.

367 games in the infield.....1 in the OF.

I don’t think we should consider him for the OF.

 

 

Pham, Margot, Myers, Grisham and Cordero. Hedges, Cronenworth and another infielder will be our other reserves. I don’t know if Naylor even comes in 6th. I think the next guy up will be Olivares, who has far more defensive ability and has earned his shot.

Yep.....let Naylor hit .375 in AAA then trade him to the AL.

I like the kid....his intensity and enthusiasm......but he just doesn’t fit this team right now and his value is in a trade.

 

Has everyone written off France as a RHH option to PH and 1B option v. LHP? Maybe only one reserve OF and 3 reserve INF?

Pham - Margot / Grisham (L) - Myers

Machado - Tatis - Profar (#) - Hosmer (L) ... Garcia (L) - France - Cronenworth (L)

Mejia (#) - Hedges

Hopefully the new regime keeps a more consistent line-up and Pham, Myers, Machado, Tatis, Profar, Hosmer get steady employment but even then their is a need to “rest” players during the season or cover a minor (non injury list) injury.

At least Cronenworth appears to have the chance to provide some legit SS back-up along with 2B and maybe in ST work in emergency OF/3B and a LH bat. France is the best RHH bench option and should cover 3B/1B. Garcia (L) has some INF and emergency OF to go with a decent experienced PH bat.

Better off with Naylor (L) and Cordero (L) in AAA getting reps and hopefully developing  rather than the 5th OF and a few PH shots. Have them on speed dial as call-up if needed. Think the entire proposed bench has minor league options ... maybe gathering the best bench players now makes more sense than having better young prospects languishing there.