Quote from fenn68 on October 1, 2018, 7:05 am

Season over ... time to take a breath and just enjoy October and the playoffs (which look to be quite compelling).

Once November arrives, we can start thinking about reshaping the roster (FA, Rule 5) and the Winter Meetings in December (possible FA, trades).

Quote from David Jay on October 1, 2018, 12:00 pm

Quote from David Nevin on September 29, 2018, 7:03 am

So is Freddy Galvis the runaway MVP of this season for us?

While he was great for us all year this says more about the rest of the lineup and a good indication of why we almost lost 100 games.

No.

Myers and Renfroe were bigger contributors on the field than Galvis. I think it was probably by a margin somewhere between what you see from BBRef and Fangraphs, but Galvis was among the worst everyday players at his position in the majors.

He was not great. He was not good. He wasn't league average. He was, however, always (and inexplicably) present.

Quote from fenn68 on October 1, 2018, 3:29 pm

Can a team that lost 96 games have an MVP?

I do give Galvis credit for being out there everyday and playing "steady" defense (albeit little range) plus being a stabilizing factor in the infield. However except for the burst in September ... he really did not hit. On the other hand the alternative was ??????.  Has been (and will be) a below average SS (offense / defense) so would not be all that interested in resigning him barring a real low end 1 year deal. Basically ride the Tatis wave.

Basically no one played enough for the MVP honor ... yes, Hosmer played but did not meet expectations.

Quote from LynchMob on October 1, 2018, 5:44 pm

Wow ... Hosmer was bad ... worse than I realized ... -0.1 WAR ... ouch 🙁

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=300&type=8&season=2018&month=0&season1=2018&ind=0&team=29&rost=&age=&filter=&players=

#	Name	G	PA	HR	R	RBI	SB	BB%	K%	ISO	BABIP	AVG	OBP	SLG	wOBA	wRC+	BsR	Off	Def	WAR
1	Wil Myers	83	343	11	39	39	13	8.70%	27.40%	0.192	0.327	0.253	0.318	0.446	0.328	107	3.8	6.9	-2.2	1.6
2	Hunter Renfroe	117	441	26	53	68	2	6.80%	24.70%	0.256	0.271	0.248	0.302	0.504	0.338	114	-1.1	6.7	-5.6	1.5
3	Christian Villanueva	110	384	20	42	46	3	6.00%	27.10%	0.214	0.276	0.236	0.299	0.45	0.323	104	-1	0.9	-1.3	1.2
4	Freddy Galvis	162	656	13	62	67	8	6.90%	22.40%	0.133	0.304	0.248	0.299	0.38	0.294	85	0	-12.1	2.9	1.2
5	Austin Hedges	91	326	14	29	37	3	6.40%	27.60%	0.198	0.28	0.231	0.282	0.429	0.301	90	-1.6	-5.7	5.1	1
6	Travis Jankowski	117	387	4	45	17	24	9.60%	18.90%	0.086	0.319	0.259	0.332	0.346	0.303	91	2.4	-2.1	-0.9	1
7	Cory Spangenberg	116	329	7	35	25	6	7.60%	32.80%	0.128	0.344	0.235	0.298	0.362	0.29	83	2.4	-4.6	0.6	0.7
8	Manuel Margot	141	519	8	50	51	11	6.20%	17.00%	0.138	0.281	0.245	0.292	0.384	0.288	81	-1.4	-13.6	3.1	0.6
9	Eric Hosmer	157	677	18	72	69	7	9.20%	21.00%	0.145	0.302	0.253	0.322	0.398	0.309	95	-4	-8	-14.8	-0.1
10	Jose Pirela	146	473	5	54	32	6	6.30%	18.80%	0.096	0.301	0.249	0.3	0.345	0.283	78	-4.7	-17.6	-5.1	-0.8

Quote from LynchMob on October 1, 2018, 5:49 pm

So ... WAR says Stammen is/was MVP ... sounds good to me ... none of those bats earned an MVP ...

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2018&month=0&season1=2018&ind=0&team=29&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

#	Name	W	L	SV	G	GS	IP	K/9	BB/9	HR/9	BABIP	LOB%	GB%	HR/FB	ERA	FIP	xFIP	WAR
1	Craig Stammen	8	3	0	73	0	79	10.03	1.94	0.34	0.301	74.30%	49.30%	4.90%	2.73	2.19	2.97	2.3
2	Kirby Yates	5	3	12	65	0	63	12.86	2.43	0.86	0.263	87.70%	42.80%	11.80%	2.14	2.54	2.64	1.8
3	Robbie Erlin	4	7	0	39	12	109	7.27	0.99	0.99	0.306	62.50%	46.70%	11.90%	4.21	3.31	3.41	1.7
4	Joey Lucchesi	8	9	0	26	26	130	10.04	2.98	1.59	0.306	78.00%	44.70%	20.40%	4.08	4.32	3.45	1.1
5	Adam Cimber	3	5	0	42	0	48.1	9.5	1.86	0.37	0.315	68.40%	52.30%	6.70%	3.17	2.33	2.82	1.1
6	Jose Castillo	3	3	0	37	0	38.1	12.21	2.82	0.7	0.25	71.00%	37.80%	8.60%	3.29	2.64	3.13	0.9
7	Matt Strahm	3	4	0	41	5	61.1	10.13	3.08	0.88	0.226	86.10%	34.90%	9.20%	2.05	3.36	3.84	0.9
8	Eric Lauer	6	7	0	23	23	112	8.04	3.7	1.21	0.332	74.70%	37.60%	12.70%	4.34	4.51	4.51	0.8
9	Brad Hand	2	4	24	41	0	44.1	13.2	3.05	1.02	0.298	70.80%	46.90%	15.60%	3.05	3.19	2.91	0.7
10	Tyson Ross	6	9	0	22	22	123.1	7.81	3.79	1.17	0.276	72.00%	43.80%	15.50%	4.45	4.55	4.24	0.7
11	Clayton Richard	7	11	0	27	27	158.2	6.13	3.4	1.08	0.289	64.70%	56.80%	17.80%	5.33	4.68	4.24	0.7
12	Robert Stock	1	1	0	32	0	39.2	8.62	2.95	0.23	0.321	77.10%	50.00%	2.70%	2.5	2.71	3.92	0.7
13	Phil Maton	0	2	0	45	0	47.1	10.46	4.37	0.57	0.359	70.60%	35.90%	5.60%	4.37	3.25	4.31	0.6
14	Luis Perdomo	1	6	0	12	10	44.2	7.86	4.43	0.81	0.389	61.40%	43.00%	9.50%	7.05	4.26	4.65	0.4
15	Jordan Lyles	2	4	0	24	8	71.1	7.82	2.4	1.51	0.286	75.50%	46.70%	14.80%	4.29	4.45	4.14	0.3
16	Miguel Diaz	1	0	0	11	0	18.2	14.46	5.79	0.96	0.341	67.50%	34.90%	10.50%	4.82	3.27	3.56	0.2
17	Brad Wieck	0	0	0	5	0	7	12.86	0	1.29	0.154	100.00%	28.60%	12.50%	1.29	2.16	2.19	0.2
18	Colten Brewer	1	0	0	11	0	9.2	9.31	6.52	0	0.469	54.60%	50.00%	0.00%	5.59	3.27	4.63	0.1
19	Rowan Wick	0	1	0	10	0	8.1	7.56	1.08	1.08	0.414	63.50%	39.30%	7.70%	6.48	3.4	4.42	0.1

Quote from LynchMob on October 1, 2018, 5:53 pm

mlb.com sez ...

The starting pitching struggled, but the Padres' bullpen was excellent in 2018. Its 3.50 ERA ranked third in the National League and sixth overall. Of course, that number doesn't tell the whole story, because of the burden placed on the relief corps by short starts.

The 'pen was clearly much better than sixth-best. Padres relievers combined to post an 8.8 WAR, according to FanGraphs. That's the second best mark ever recorded in the National League, trailing only the 2003 Dodgers.

Quote from MrPadre19 on October 2, 2018, 3:18 am

I forgot.......it’s 2018.

Watching 160 games and “seeing’ every player every day doesn’t mean anything.

It’s WAR!

 

Quote from fenn68 on October 2, 2018, 7:11 am

Quote from David Nevin on October 2, 2018, 3:18 am

I forgot.......it’s 2018.

Watching 160 games and “seeing’ every player every day doesn’t mean anything.

It’s WAR!

 

I will stick with my "no MVP" view for 2018. Interestingly only 3 Padre position players actually played enough to be "Qualified" for post season awards: Galvis, Margot, and Hosmer ... and Galvis was the best of those three arguably but still not that good. Hard to even consider (despite WAR) as Most Valuable some like Myers who only played in 83 games or Renfroe who only played in 117 ... different question as to who is the current best talent. Maybe they are in contention for the "Best Supporting Player in a Limited Role" although I give that to Reyes.

Despite that wonderful WAR, I would take Yates over Stammen ... lower ERA, lower WHIP, higher K%, with 12 saves and only 1 blown save after getting thrust into the closer role with the trade of Hand. Like Stammen but the set-up man is not quite the same (and he was 0 for 5 in save opportunities). So Yates with non-WAR points for degree of difficulty in a late inning role.

Maybe a group MVP for the bullpen ... clearly the one outstanding piece of the 2018 Padres.

Quote from David Jay on October 2, 2018, 7:49 am

Quote from LynchMob on October 1, 2018, 5:53 pm

mlb.com sez ...

The starting pitching struggled, but the Padres' bullpen was excellent in 2018. Its 3.50 ERA ranked third in the National League and sixth overall. Of course, that number doesn't tell the whole story, because of the burden placed on the relief corps by short starts.

The 'pen was clearly much better than sixth-best. Padres relievers combined to post an 8.8 WAR, according to FanGraphs. That's the second best mark ever recorded in the National League, trailing only the 2003 Dodgers.

The flip side of being taxed by the short starts is that, since WAR is accumulates with playing time, that extended workload is one of the contributing reasons for the high bullpen WAR.