Quote from fenn68 on November 2, 2018, 2:15 pm

Quote from David Nevin on November 2, 2018, 2:00 pm

If Guerra that may give us some indication of their plans for SS....no?

Without the addition of a SS(Galvis/FA) I would think Guerra would be needed at least to start the season?

Other than that I agree with the others listed.....

 

Struggled with that one. Went that way with the "hope" Tatis is the SS in the second half ... so just covering the 1st half of the season and "hope" they could work through that with either (or both) Garcia and Urias covering SS.

Guerra is such a bad hitter probably would clear waivers easily and get optioned ... in case of an emergency could be added back at the end of ST (or early in the season). Additionally, might be able to sign a non-roster journeyman SS for AAA (as they did with Coleman before) also in case of emergency.

I just can't justify Guerra taking up a 40 man roster slot given his total inability to hit in AA/AAA ... no chance in the ML. Actually even in an emergency would prefer Villanueva (I know ugly) or even Cordoba (painful thought). Just treading water until they add Tatis mid-season (again I hope).

Quote from sportwarrior on November 2, 2018, 2:53 pm

MLBTR has us pegged as their favorites for Yusei Kikuchi. Interesting.

Quote from MrPadre19 on November 2, 2018, 5:20 pm

Quote from fenn68 on November 2, 2018, 2:15 pm

Quote from David Nevin on November 2, 2018, 2:00 pm

If Guerra that may give us some indication of their plans for SS....no?

Without the addition of a SS(Galvis/FA) I would think Guerra would be needed at least to start the season?

Other than that I agree with the others listed.....

 

Struggled with that one. Went that way with the "hope" Tatis is the SS in the second half ... so just covering the 1st half of the season and "hope" they could work through that with either (or both) Garcia and Urias covering SS.

Guerra is such a bad hitter probably would clear waivers easily and get optioned ... in case of an emergency could be added back at the end of ST (or early in the season). Additionally, might be able to sign a non-roster journeyman SS for AAA (as they did with Coleman before) also in case of emergency.

I just can't justify Guerra taking up a 40 man roster slot given his total inability to hit in AA/AAA ... no chance in the ML. Actually even in an emergency would prefer Villanueva (I know ugly) or even Cordoba (painful thought). Just treading water until they add Tatis mid-season (again I hope).

Actually I had completely forgot about us just signing Garcia....lol

 

 

Quote from fenn68 on November 2, 2018, 5:47 pm

Quote from sportwarrior on November 2, 2018, 2:53 pm

MLBTR has us pegged as their favorites for Yusei Kikuchi. Interesting.

The estimated $42MM/6 year deal (plus $8MM posting fee) should not be a problem for the Padres .... $7MM a year for a "mid-rotation" LHSP is a bargain these days.

Sort of boils down to:

IF they think he is healthy

IF they really think he is a mid-rotation SP

Not all that worried about his limited innings in Japan ... the way MLB is going these days probably not looking for a 200 inning arm anyway.

Given there are no "locks" for the 5 SP roles adds some credibility for the near term and some stability for the next few years as the unproven prospects start arriving and settling in. Somewhere down the road if he is at least somewhat effective he could be dealt or one of the prospects could be dealt to fill any hole.

Quote from fenn68 on November 2, 2018, 5:56 pm

A side bar on a Kikuchi signing or any other FA at some elevated level of dollars. Padres without that look to be in the mid-70MM range (counting what is owed to former players). No worst by far in MLB ... Miami for sure and it is looking as TB may dip to a very low payroll but (considering Fowler is a key owner on some of the MLB committees working with the Union) it may be in his best interest to ensure the Padres don't dip into the lower regions of payroll beside the value of adding the specific player.

Some rumors when they signed Myers that a part of the motivation was to prove to MLB and the Union that the Padres will spend at a minimum their revenue sharing money even while rebuilding. Never know that could have been a factor in the Hosmer signing (not just that they liked him).

An interesting line to walk ... don't want to throw away money on players that really don't interest you BUT might go the extra dollar to add the ones that do.

Quote from MrPadre19 on November 2, 2018, 8:06 pm

Saw a note that the Indians are making some veterans available.

Carlos Carrasco for one.

Making $7 mil next year with two Club options for the following 2 seasons.

Any thoughts on what kind of package it would take?

Players the Indians may be interested in?

 

Quote from fenn68 on November 3, 2018, 6:43 am

Quote from David Nevin on November 2, 2018, 8:06 pm

Saw a note that the Indians are making some veterans available.

Carlos Carrasco for one.

Making $7 mil next year with two Club options for the following 2 seasons.

Any thoughts on what kind of package it would take?

Players the Indians may be interested in?

 

Surprising direction from Cleveland given they are the AL Central champs and return a very competitive team in a weak Division ... but if we look closer makes sense. Baseball Resource projects them around $145MM in payroll before signing any FA ... and that is following two consecutive years of payrolls in the same range. Cleveland is a small market club and may have been overextending themselves to compete and need a financial pullback. I would guess they would be more comfortable competing with a payroll around $100MM but really can't get there in 2019.

The tricky part is that they should still contend in 2019 but they have a boatload of FA and expensive club options (most they will decline) set for 2020 ... so they could achieve the lower payroll then. Possibly they want to see if they can move some older/shorter term players (and their contracts) for younger, cheaper ML quality players that would fit into 2019 or 2020 at the latest ... basically lower payroll and support contending in those years.

Checked Cot's and they indicate Carrasco had two options years: 2019 (exercised) and 2020 ... both at a very reasonable price for his skill. Should be a lot of competition from contenders.

What would the Padres have go give up to get Carrasco ... probably more than they would considering the two criteria ... cheap and key 2019-20 impact for Cleveland. (note Tatis is a non-consideration here). Probably at least two for one (probably 3 if they toss in a prospect). If you look at Cleveland's 2019 holes and then factor in the 2020 FA .... a package that might include some of : Margot; Renfroe; Mejia (yes a return candidate since they seem to want to move on from Gomes and his contract) and Lauer. Would be a question as the Carrasco's value to the Padres if they have him only for 2019-20.

Quote from fenn68 on November 3, 2018, 6:55 am

Saw one writer suggesting the Padres may be a surprise candidate for Corbin (LHP) projected as a FA to get about $120MM/6 years.

Does check some Padre boxes as a top of the rotation arm under control for the projected sweet spot for contending (2020-2022). $20MM AAV is not a killer to the Padres payroll ... still would be under $100MM. Interesting speculation.

Side note: mentioned a few post back that a potential secondary factor in signing Myers and Hosmer was the desire to have a payroll that did not suggest they were bottom feeders just taking revenue sharing and not spending that on players. Took a look at RosterResource's 2019 current payroll projections. SD would have the LOWEST NL payroll at around $74MM (yes LOWER than Miami projected around $84MM and PITT at $79MM). All the NL teams are over $100MM. Two AL teams are projected lower: TB at $38MM (expect a UNION call) and the CWS at $66MM.

No indication that the Padres are budget constrained so MIGHT give some legs to them spending in FA .

Quote from WindsorUK on November 3, 2018, 11:20 am

If we're spending money, do we do it on a Corbin, at what?, $20 million. Or, are you better off giving Machado $30 million?