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#31 · November 17, 2019, 3:42 pm
MLBTradeRumors projects Ryu to land a $54MM/3YR (AAV $18MM) deal. ... I guess one can debate if that is cheap / short term for a to be 33 year old but 2019 CY Young candidate but with an injury history.
Think he will do better than that ... maybe not in years but in AAV.
#32 · November 17, 2019, 3:52 pm
You never can tell how the market will shake out. If he goes over that in either years or AAV I think Preller should just walk away. I don't see teams putting more than that into him considering his age and injury history. Fortunately he is not a Cole or a Strasburg. No team's whole off season depends on getting Ryu. If he wants too much it is easy to walk away.
#33 · November 17, 2019, 4:06 pm
I’d offer 2 years/28 mill to Ryu. If he doesn’t like it, offer that deal to Hamels. If Hamels doesn’t like it, offer it to Keuchel. If none of them bite, no big deal. I’d just hate to go more than 2/28 with the young pitching in place and on the horizon.
#34 · November 17, 2019, 4:13 pm
I am fine with that plan.
#35 · November 17, 2019, 4:51 pm
Quote from TatisJr on November 17, 2019, 4:06 pmI’d offer 2 years/28 mill to Ryu. If he doesn’t like it, offer that deal to Hamels. If Hamels doesn’t like it, offer it to Keuchel. If none of them bite, no big deal. I’d just hate to go more than 2/28 with the young pitching in place and on the horizon.
I wouldnt waste $14M on any of those aging puss throwing lefties. I dont think any of them help us next year.
#36 · November 17, 2019, 5:03 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on November 17, 2019, 4:51 pmQuote from TatisJr on November 17, 2019, 4:06 pmI’d offer 2 years/28 mill to Ryu. If he doesn’t like it, offer that deal to Hamels. If Hamels doesn’t like it, offer it to Keuchel. If none of them bite, no big deal. I’d just hate to go more than 2/28 with the young pitching in place and on the horizon.
I wouldnt waste $14M on any of those aging puss throwing lefties. I dont think any of them help us next year.
“Puss throwing lefties” as you call them don’t rely velocity so they age well. All 3 are crafty, effective and would undoubtedly be an upgrade over Lauer in 2020. Ryu was a 5.3 WAR, Hamels 3 WAR and Keuchel was 2 WAR pitcher compared to Lauer 0.8 WAR.
#37 · November 17, 2019, 5:45 pm
Lauer was .8 WAR and Luchessi was a 1.6 WAR. And both will play for $583,500 in 2020. So I will pass on Kuechel and Hamels who are not a big enough upgrade over either for the money they want. And, Ryu is too much of an injury risk. And they age OK, until the ball stops moving, or more importantly, when they stop getting the calls on the edges, and then they get rocked. And IMO, all 3 of these puss throwing lefties are too close to that stage to spend money on them. They are more names now than performers.
#38 · November 17, 2019, 7:06 pm
Wasn't Ryu the favorite to win the CY Young award for most of the year just this year?
#39 · November 17, 2019, 7:38 pm
Quote from JasonE135 on November 17, 2019, 7:06 pmWasn't Ryu the favorite to win the CY Young award for most of the year just this year?
Umm, yes. But in 2018 he threw 82 innings, in 2017 126 innings, and in 2016 4 innings. 4 innings! So you can spend $18M, but I think it would be horrible.
#40 · November 17, 2019, 8:05 pm
He could pitch 4 innings or he could contend for the CY Young. The unpredictability makes him more affordable than the Coles and Strasburgs. At least we wouldn't have to give him a long contract where he would end up blocking our young guys.