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#601 · December 3, 2023, 11:55 am
Some reporting that Ohtani will make his decision within the week … might Preller be dragging his feet a bit on Soto until Ohtani is off the market and theoretically free up some other teams to bid on Soto? Maybe those teams shift to Bellinger and one takes him off the market and make every team wanting the big bat get more invested in Soto? Better return for the Padres? Given that situation Bellinger’s price may really go up and teams in on him may drop out for a lower stop gap in Soto to get through 2024?
How will Preller finesse this for the best return but not over play his position and not get a deal done?
#602 · December 3, 2023, 1:10 pm
Quote from fenn68 on December 3, 2023, 7:53 amBoth are headed towards a Hosmer future.
Now some will say Machado was injured and will bounce back … but so was Bogaerts and could just as likely bounce back … Cronenworth could bounce back … and Kim could regress to his 2022 level …that is baseball and the projection of the future is not clear.
Hosmer could never hold Machado's jock. Machado will out perform Hosmer's best season at age 36 for Machado.
The only err in your thinking when comparing Machado to Bogaerts is that Bogaerts will never achieve Machado's numbers. Never has, never will.
Machado will bounce back this season, he will be in consideration for both MVP and GG at 3B in 2024.
#603 · December 3, 2023, 1:14 pm
Quote from 84padres on December 3, 2023, 8:18 amRelease Grisham and sign Lee for 12 mil, a net cost of 7 mil .
He might start slow but I doubt he can do worse than the new Mendoza line poster boy .
That is a waste of money.
As Fenn said, the only place SD needs to spend money this offseason is pitching, pitching, and pitching. And then after signing enough SPs, spend any left over money on MORE PITCHING!!!!
Dont need another season of a Korean player having a slow start at $10M+ per season.
#604 · December 3, 2023, 1:57 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on December 3, 2023, 1:10 pmQuote from fenn68 on December 3, 2023, 7:53 amBoth are headed towards a Hosmer future.
Now some will say Machado was injured and will bounce back … but so was Bogaerts and could just as likely bounce back … Cronenworth could bounce back … and Kim could regress to his 2022 level …that is baseball and the projection of the future is not clear.
Hosmer could never hold Machado's jock. Machado will out perform Hosmer's best season at age 36 for Machado.
The only err in your thinking when comparing Machado to Bogaerts is that Bogaerts will never achieve Machado's numbers. Never has, never will.
Machado will bounce back this season, he will be in consideration for both MVP and GG at 3B in 2024.
Not comparing Machado or Bogaerts from a talent standpoint to Hosmer … but suggesting they will become liabilities well before their contracts end as did Hosmer.
As for Machado v Bogaerts … looking at the cumulative last three seasons (almost the same number of PA) they are almost the same … Machado has the power and Bogaerts has the AVG/OBP with both close on most of the stats. Pointless debate since the Padres are stuck with both for the next decade.
Not unrealistic that in 2024 both Machado and Bogaerts play at an All-Star level and get MVP votes … but that is why they play the season. My issue is with the long run (or even the intermediate run) and their level of productivity for their contract level. What both can work through at age 30 might just become a big problem at age 35.
But we need to get through 2024 before worrying about that.
#605 · December 3, 2023, 1:57 pm
Why are we interested in Maldonado?
Dude can’t hit.
Rather stick with Sullivan or sign Alfaro.
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#606 · December 3, 2023, 2:06 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on December 3, 2023, 1:57 pmWhy are we interested in Maldonado?
Dude can’t hit.
Rather stick with Sullivan or sign Alfaro.
Because Preller is interested in everyone. The rationale I heard was they love his veteran defense and the potential to mentor Campusano (at a cheap salary).
Probably see the need for a 3rd catcher … a cheap one on a 1 year deal … while Sullivan can be optioned to AAA for insurance. I guess going all in on Campusano as #1 for a heavy workload.
If they don’t go with Maldonado there are a lot of low cost veteran options who can be picked up late in the winter and some likely on minor league deals to get stashed at EP.
#607 · December 3, 2023, 5:03 pm
Alek Manoah’s name has come up in Juan Soto trade talks with the Padres. Could be a good change of scenery guy.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 4, 2023
#608 · December 3, 2023, 5:05 pm
The Yankees and Padres' trade talks are at a complete stalemate, with the Yankees saying the Padres' request of 7 players for All-Star outfielder Juan Soto is unrealistic:
Michael King
Clark Schmidt
Drew Thorpe
Randy Vazquez
Jhonny Brito
Two prospects
And taking CF Trent Grisham— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) December 3, 2023
#609 · December 3, 2023, 5:13 pm
This could have the makings of a three-team deal, wherein a team like the Yankees (the most prominently mentioned Soto suitor) send one or more of their position players to another team and the Padres get a pitcher from that team along with other players from one of the two teams (or both).
While the Soto saga has become the second-most intriguing storyline on a national level, behind where Shohei Ohtani will sign, it is merely the top item on the Padres’ to-do list. Underlined and bolded on that list is finding starting pitchers to slot behind Joe Musgrove and Yu Darvish. (Or slot right with that pair, if their interest in Brewers right-hander Corbin Burnes, the 2021 National League Cy Young winner, proves fruitful.)
#610 · December 3, 2023, 5:19 pm
Quote from TucsonClip on December 3, 2023, 5:05 pmhttps://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1731358223360217422?t=ps8TCa7ucPHq28zvIlcdtA&s=19
Sounds as though the Padres don’t want to make a trade right now if that is the ask. For once agree with the NYY that is an unrealistic demand. NYY make that trade and likely end up in last place with almost no SP.