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#1661 · February 14, 2024, 1:09 pm
Quote from MrPadre19 on February 14, 2024, 12:29 pmWho is Pitt gonna send them that they need?
Isn't Miami in need of SS and Catcher?
Pitt has Henry Davis and also Endy Rodriguez at Catcher but Rodriguez is going to miss the entire season.
Not sure what SS they have to offer but Ji-Hwan Bae is a Ha Seong Kim clone at 2B...just not sure of he has any SS experience?
Not sure MIA is necessarily looking for something they need for the ML team … some suggestion they are heading into a rebuild … so as likely to hold for the best talent package in their view.
Pitt does have 5 Top 100 … think 4 are pitchers so they do have some collateral.
On the flip side, not so sure MIA is entering this with a NEED to trade any of their SP … they are all very low cost and come with long control. So, not likely to settle for anything less than they want.
Since pretty sure a number of teams would love to add one of MIA SP yet no trade yet does suggest that MIA is not desperate.
#1662 · February 15, 2024, 12:17 pm
Sal Frelick … is he a name to watch as a trade target for CF? With MILW.
Frelick is a 23 year old LHH CF with good defense and speed projected as a plus hitter (little power) who was a MLB Top 100 prospect (first round pick in mid-teens out of Boston College). Football background. Made his MLB debut last season … so at league minimum with six year control.
He could step into CF for the Padres now. Why would MILW trade him … first they just gave CF to the super prospect Chourio who they just gave a long term mega contract as one of the top prospects MLB. Frelick is ticketed for a MILW corner but really does not fit the profile of a corner … plus they have another good prospect who could take that spot.
What would MILW want … likely a Top 100 SP prospect from the Padres that is ML ready (or very near). Snelling? Thorpe? Iriate?
Thoughts?
#1663 · February 15, 2024, 12:32 pm
Quote from fenn68 on February 15, 2024, 12:17 pmSal Frelick … is he a name to watch as a trade target for CF? With MILW.
What would MILW want … likely a Top 100 SP prospect from the Padres that is ML ready (or very near). Snelling? Thorpe? Iriate?
Thoughts?
I guess it would come down to the comparison of Frelick v. either Marsee or Merrill.
Does Marsee or Merrill have the ability to play CF as well as Frelick? If they do, they are not far away from the MLs and seem to have similar skill sets at the plate as Frelick, maybe a little more power from Merrill and/or Marsee.
Now if you dont think either can handle CF, then pull the trigger on Frelick. And then does Merrill/Marsee have the power to be a COF? If not, and you get Frelick, then both Marsee and Merril can become trade bait to replace the prospects used to get Frelick.
#1664 · February 15, 2024, 1:40 pm
Quote from BoosterSD on February 15, 2024, 12:32 pmQuote from fenn68 on February 15, 2024, 12:17 pmSal Frelick … is he a name to watch as a trade target for CF? With MILW.
What would MILW want … likely a Top 100 SP prospect from the Padres that is ML ready (or very near). Snelling? Thorpe? Iriate?
Thoughts?
I guess it would come down to the comparison of Frelick v. either Marsee or Merrill.
Does Marsee or Merrill have the ability to play CF as well as Frelick? If they do, they are not far away from the MLs and seem to have similar skill sets at the plate as Frelick, maybe a little more power from Merrill and/or Marsee.
Now if you dont think either can handle CF, then pull the trigger on Frelick. And then does Merrill/Marsee have the power to be a COF? If not, and you get Frelick, then both Marsee and Merril can become trade bait to replace the prospects used to get Frelick.
Agree that if the Padres feel either Marsee or Merrill can handle CF … would not give up a top prospect for Frelick. However, will hedge a bit on still acquiring Frelick if the package is a lesser group of players (e.g. Mazur, Bergert, or similar … maybe a package).
First, even if the Padres believe in one of Marsee or Merrill … having a legit CF insurance policy to start 2024 is of value … clearly in 2024 if those guys are not deemed ready until 2025. Then in 2025 still will need a LF and a replacement for Kim and Profar. Merrill could be back in the INF, Marsee in LF/DH.
Frelick would be the most advanced to begin 2024 and has that high value as a Top 100 prospect … 2025 COULD end up with Frelick (CF), Merrill (INF to replace Kim), Marsee (LF), and Pauley (DH/Utility to replace Profar). Nothing in the system will be ready to fill any of those slots so adding Frelick would have a place at a critical position … and in reality not all three internal prospects will likely end up playing to ML starter level.
So, makes sense at the right price … and given the alternatives probably good move.
#1665 · February 15, 2024, 1:58 pm
Quote from fenn68 on February 15, 2024, 1:40 pmFrelick would be the most advanced to begin 2024 and has that high value as a Top 100 prospect … 2025 COULD end up with Frelick (CF), Merrill (INF to replace Kim), Marsee (LF), and Pauley (DH/Utility to replace Profar). Nothing in the system will be ready to fill any of those slots so adding Frelick would have a place at a critical position … and in reality not all three internal prospects will likely end up playing to ML starter level.
So, makes sense at the right price … and given the alternatives probably good move.
I know others on here disagree; however, I am not a big fan of Marsee in LF. Maybe just the old baseball guy that I am, I still see LF as a power bat spot. So I guess that if Marsee is not a CF, then he is more a 4th OF guy and spots starts to rest guys and favorable pitching match ups. So if thats the case, then Frelick makes more sense.
And sense the INF is already crowded with long term contracts, I dont think we need a replacement for Kim. Plus you have stated a few times that you're not sure he can stick at SS anyway. So, I am thinking that Merrills value now is if he can man CF, or a trade piece for something that SD needs.
And Pauley, I am thinking he needs to learn 1B and/or LF to fill the biggest holes that SD has for the foreseeable future.
#1666 · February 15, 2024, 2:05 pm
Listened to a discussion on the slow winter for FA signings and the number of teams pulling back on payroll. Trigger was TEX not pursuing Montgomery who most expected a slam dunk signing by TEX.
The key is the unknown about future revenue from TV revenues for all those teams impacted by cratering of the local coverage packages. Apparently the unknown is really make teams shy away for long term contracts. That clearly takes buyers out of the market for the big names and the other teams know so low ball offers.
Padres in the same boat … worse with all the locked in long term deals. Does not look all that good for a Kim extension. Might … in the future … motive an under value sale of Suarez, Cronenworth and not resigning of King. Hope the prospects are as hyped to give a solid team with a lot of league minimum types.
#1667 · February 16, 2024, 7:07 am
Quote from BoosterSD on February 15, 2024, 1:58 pmQuote from fenn68 on February 15, 2024, 1:40 pmFrelick would be the most advanced to begin 2024 and has that high value as a Top 100 prospect … 2025 COULD end up with Frelick (CF), Merrill (INF to replace Kim), Marsee (LF), and Pauley (DH/Utility to replace Profar). Nothing in the system will be ready to fill any of those slots so adding Frelick would have a place at a critical position … and in reality not all three internal prospects will likely end up playing to ML starter level.
So, makes sense at the right price … and given the alternatives probably good move.
I know others on here disagree; however, I am not a big fan of Marsee in LF. Maybe just the old baseball guy that I am, I still see LF as a power bat spot. So I guess that if Marsee is not a CF, then he is more a 4th OF guy and spots starts to rest guys and favorable pitching match ups. So if thats the case, then Frelick makes more sense.
And sense the INF is already crowded with long term contracts, I dont think we need a replacement for Kim. Plus you have stated a few times that you're not sure he can stick at SS anyway. So, I am thinking that Merrills value now is if he can man CF, or a trade piece for something that SD needs.
And Pauley, I am thinking he needs to learn 1B and/or LF to fill the biggest holes that SD has for the foreseeable future.
I guess it comes down to who is the alternative with power?
If we still have a trade in the works besides Frelick maybe?
For a guy with more pop?
I still think Duvall would be a good option......but I'm sure he's not signed because of his ask being too high....he'll sign somewhere for some amount so who knows?
Not any other "power" outfielders left in free agency....
#1668 · February 16, 2024, 7:13 am
Quote from MrPadre19 on February 16, 2024, 7:07 am
Not any other "power" outfielders left in free agency....
Eddie Rosario, LHH LF who hit 21 HRs last season. He would have been 4th on last years team for HRs and RBIs. Defense can not be that bad compared to Soto last season.
#1669 · February 16, 2024, 7:57 am
Quote from BoosterSD on February 16, 2024, 7:13 amQuote from MrPadre19 on February 16, 2024, 7:07 am
Not any other "power" outfielders left in free agency....
Eddie Rosario, LHH LF who hit 21 HRs last season. He would have been 4th on last years team for HRs and RBIs. Defense can not be that bad compared to Soto last season.
I wouldn't be upset at Rosario but he's 3-4 years younger than Duvall so probably gonna get a 2-4 year deal.
Duvall (35) may be had for a 1-2 year....length of commitment may be a difference maker right now with this team
But then again....who knows what Preller has rolling around in his head?
#1670 · February 16, 2024, 7:59 am
Quote from BoosterSD on February 16, 2024, 7:13 amQuote from MrPadre19 on February 16, 2024, 7:07 am
Not any other "power" outfielders left in free agency....
Eddie Rosario, LHH LF who hit 21 HRs last season. He would have been 4th on last years team for HRs and RBIs. Defense can not be that bad compared to Soto last season.
Or as the DH and still go with a OBP type OF if adding a power bat is that critical. Not as though only one hole in the line-up … three CF - LF - DH (and for some one SP) coupled with the “unknown” of the ML readiness for the three internal offensive prospects and what seems to be a very limited space remaining in the budget.
Since Rosario, Duvall, et al have yet to sign (and in theory they could help various teams) would guess all have had multiple offers that … at this point … are well below what they seek, so being unsigned is their choice. That also suggest that teams are not going up to the demand level and, in time, those demands will drop.
So with a limited money, Preller wants to upgrade maybe four slots and does not want to go high on any one and not be able to do the upgrades on the others. So, he waits … maybe seeing what he has in the three internal offensive prospects and the new SP … pursue trade talks for long term / low cost options … and as a last resort wait for the asks drop on FA (not really caring who is left) and swoop in on a one year deal.
Doubt Preller can fill all the holes to our satisfaction to start the year (although may be deemed right by mid-season if the prospects / trades work out). Preller will be flexible based on how the options shift over the spring … and really don’t know what slots are most critical to Preller. IF it is pitching and the best options are Lorenzen and Ryu … he may be reluctant to spend on other slots until he has landed (or pulled out) either one.